T-200 vs New P790s Discussion Topic

Hi all,

Just making this thread so we can discuss the highly coveted T-200s vs New P790s, as I know many people are struggling to see which one to buy (like myself) and hoping everyone that gets to try them both can chime-in on this thread with their feedback and comparison between these 2 sets.

Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

Will be following this thread, curious.

I hit the new P790 alongside the T200 last week ; both 6 irons .I found the distance on both was a within -1, 2 yards overall, ball speed , were almost the same.The T 200 had slightly higher apex and came down about 3 degrees steeper and surprisingly felt as soft as the hollow P790 with speed foam.I am getting fit for the T200 this Thursday by the rep and will advise.I am partial to the modus 3 105 and the Nippon 950 gh but we will see.I really like the thinner top line of the T200.

> @DARsr said:

> Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

I never had issues with my 790's holding greens, even down the the 4i. The issue becomes more for lower speed players that don't generate enough ball speed (and thus height), because these irons won't spin as much as blades/player's irons.

The profile of the 790 looks WAY better at address and in the bag than the T200. 790's setup more like a players iron with minimal offset.

> @J13 said:

> 790's setup more like a players iron with minimal offset.

Yes, the 790 offset specs are in line with the T100 - definitely less than the T200, or the 718 AP3 and AP2.

FWIW, the M5 irons are also less offset that the T200 - very close to T100.

Are the 790s meant for low HDCP players orr mid range? Seems like the 790's may be a rare iron that fits ALL players....

> @DARsr said:

> Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

Everyone needs to get custom fit for 790. My first shaft the ball flight was great but the ball would roll over 20 plus yards with a 7 iron.

Modus pro 120 stiff shaft took care of that issue.

I hit a 5 iron on a par 3 198 yesterday and the ball hit the green and stopped with no issue.

> @tsecor said:

> Are the 790s meant for low HDCP players orr mid range? Seems like the 790's may be a rare iron that fits ALL players....

Im a 12 handicap and have no issues with the New 790.

For me I just have to get my distances set with short irons since I have the irons for 4 days now.

> @peterrod said:

> > @DARsr said:

> > Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

> Everyone needs to get custom fit for 790. My first shaft the ball flight was great but the ball would roll over 20 plus yards with a 7 iron.

> Modus pro 120 stiff shaft took care of that issue.

> I hit a 5 iron on a par 3 198 yesterday and the ball hit the green and stopped with no issue.

> > @tsecor said:

> > Are the 790s meant for low HDCP players orr mid range? Seems like the 790's may be a rare iron that fits ALL players....

> Im a 12 handicap and have no issues with the New 790.

> For me I just have to get my distances set with short irons since I have the irons for 4 days now.

>

>

Agreed on all accounts. When hitting the stock DG S300 shafts the ball flight was not controllable. I went and got fit and put the Project X LZ 120 shafts in them and ball flight is very controllable, not too high and I played on Sunday and had no issues holding greens with the them. It is also important IMO to get the correct ball with these irons. So if you dont play a ball that spins a lot you may want to look into using one. I use a ProV1x and all of my approach shots into greens would stop near their divot with little roll out. And FWIW I am a 11 handicap and a so so ball striker. The P790's fit a large large range of golfers

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> > @DARsr said:

> > Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

>

> I never had issues with my 790's holding greens, even down the the 4i. The issue becomes more for lower speed players that don't generate enough ball speed (and thus height), because these irons won't spin as much as blades/player's irons.

+1, I never understood the argument myself about 790's not holding greens. I have put about 10 rounds on mine since picking them up recently and I haven't noticed any lack of grip on the greens with driver speed right around 102-105 mph.

> @peterrod said:

> > @DARsr said:

> > Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

> Everyone needs to get custom fit for 790. My first shaft the ball flight was great but the ball would roll over 20 plus yards with a 7 iron.

> Modus pro 120 stiff shaft took care of that issue.

> I hit a 5 iron on a par 3 198 yesterday and the ball hit the green and stopped with no issue.

> > @tsecor said:

> > Are the 790s meant for low HDCP players orr mid range? Seems like the 790's may be a rare iron that fits ALL players....

> Im a 12 handicap and have no issues with the New 790.

> For me I just have to get my distances set with short irons since I have the irons for 4 days now.

>

>

Was the fitting on GCQ or outside? Was it hitting to a green either way? I've noticed in any fitting I've had with GCQ they really tend to over estimate roll out. My guess is maybe the default setting is to a really firm green. I got fit into 760's and hit my 790's first. Every shot that hit the green I would see 10-15 yards of roll out and honestly I never even saw my 4i in real life, roll more than 12-15 *feet* past the pitch mark.

When I do any fitting for any club I pretty much ignore roll out completely, even on driver. Get my carry numbers consistent with proper landing angle for my ball speed, launch and spin.

are these set up to blend with another model? The one thing about "hot" irons is the 8-w distance controls......> @peterrod said:

> > @DARsr said:

> > Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

> Everyone needs to get custom fit for 790. My first shaft the ball flight was great but the ball would roll over 20 plus yards with a 7 iron.

> Modus pro 120 stiff shaft took care of that issue.

> I hit a 5 iron on a par 3 198 yesterday and the ball hit the green and stopped with no issue.

> > @tsecor said:

> > Are the 790s meant for low HDCP players orr mid range? Seems like the 790's may be a rare iron that fits ALL players....

> Im a 12 handicap and have no issues with the New 790.

> For me I just have to get my distances set with short irons since I have the irons for 4 days now.

>

>

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> Was the fitting on GCQ or outside? Was it hitting to a green either way?

Outside using Trackman hitting range balls to a 173 Yardage marker.

Learning from youtube and other forums all I cared was the carry number and a comfort level with the shaft.

> @tsecor said:

> are these set up to blend with another model? The one thing about "hot" irons is the 8-w distance controls......> @peterrod said:

My bag is 5-AW with P790.

I will have a new Ping G410 5 wood 17.5 Degree that should fill the gap between my Cobra F9 driver(12 degree head loft -1.5) and my 5 iron.

I will do a wedge fitting next year at a grass only facility.

ANother iron in this profile is the Mizuno MP20 HMB. It's actually better IMO than the 790 but profile is slightly larger. Feel wise the HMB wins hands down.

I've got the 2018 P790's and for the lofts they seem to hold the green well. I went away from them after half a season though, didn't seem to be as consistent as far as carry distance to my P770's. however my old man is about a 16 handicap and loves the distance and feel from them.

I have 4 round on my T200s and they are an excellent iron. I oldthe original 790s and am not looking back. The most impressive feature of the T200s for me is their ability to check up and spin back on the greens distance wise they can hang with the 790s any day. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I prefer the thin top line of the T200s

> @macedan said:

> > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > @DARsr said:

> > > Only heard that the t790’s hollow face fly high and long, but don’t bite on a green. Dying to find our. Ordered before all these came out the Mizuno Mp HMB

> >

> > I never had issues with my 790's holding greens, even down the the 4i. The issue becomes more for lower speed players that don't generate enough ball speed (and thus height), because these irons won't spin as much as blades/player's irons.

>

> +1, I never understood the argument myself about 790's not holding greens. I have put about 10 rounds on mine since picking them up recently and I haven't noticed any lack of grip on the greens with driver speed right around 102-105 mph.

I’ve played the 2017 P790s for almost 2 years now. Never had an issue with them holding a green.

Isn't the question with the original p790's catching a heater/flier and going over the green not necessarily rolling out?

A guy in my weekly group has these and while he hits some beautiful looking iron shots, I wouldn't say distance control is a strong skill. Could be the player, could be the club.

TM put a heavier tungsten weight on the sole of the new P790s and it’s heavier to help with consistent ball speeds across the face to reduce fliers. That said nothing is going to fix a wet, ball sitting in the rough from flying an extra 10-15 yds

I tried both of these out yesterday. I thought 100% I would be ordering the T200 but ended up ordering P790. The looks and forgiveness were great. Even on terrible swings with the P790’s I was impressed.

I do think that the T200 had better feel with clean contact. I could have gamed these over my i500’s. The forgiveness on these two irons are better in my opinion.

I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

I was really impressed with the P790’s when I had my fitting for the T200’s. Im going to be going back before I pull the trigger on new sticks.

No input on the 790s but I bought the t200s with the AMT white instead of the stock black and love them. I'm coming from 718 ap2's with lz 6.0's. these are very forgiving and controlling.

> @Lobber said:

> I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

Get the 4 iron. It’s becoming one of my favorite clubs in the bag. Forgiving and long!

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

> @peterrod said:

> > @Lobber said:

> > I’ll be interested in hearing how the new 790s hold greens. The T200s are excellent in that regard. Not talking about fliers but how they hold. The T200 angle of descent allows them to check nicely and in some cases spin back. I could game either but am gaming T200s with excellent results

>

> No issue with the New P790 holding greens. I have irons 5 through AW in a Nippon N.S Pro modus tour 120 stiff . I hit a 5 iron on a 205 yd par 3. My ball hit the green and rolled a little. Short irons stop right next to the divot. For me the only flyer would be out of the rough but thats normal. Its important to get custom fit for these irons. I get a lot of comments of wow your ball flight is great and man your irons look sweet. Still debating on a 4 iron

Glad to hear 790s are holding and working for you. So many good choices or should I say too many

I am hearing bad things about the AMT white shafts in the T200. Has anyone experienced balloon balls with this shaft? (god that reads bad).....just wondering if that has led to purchasing 790's instead of T200's

> @tsecor said:

> I am hearing bad things about the AMT white shafts in the T200. Has anyone experienced balloon balls with this shaft? (god that reads bad).....just wondering if that has led to purchasing 790's instead of T200's

I find it hard to believe that a certain shaft won't work in a head. It is most likely people that are not properly fit into the shaft that are having issues.