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Had a little experiment yesterday where I took my old Mizuno TP Mills Workshop II out for a round.

The head is around 332gm and loft is 4.5 I think. Anyway, had a pretty good putting round, 31 putts on grainy bermuda greens.

One thing that stood out was that I was getting a really good roll on the ball and from 5-10ft off the green I got the ball much closer than with my normal gamer with 3* loft.

Now wondering if I should adjust the loft on my BB1, as I have struggled getting the ball to the hole from off the green with it. It seems to get "hung up" in the grass a lot more.

I know that Cameron has said for quite a while that 4* was the optimal putter loft.

What are folks on this forum using?

Rogue ST Max LS or Paradym 10.5 (9.5) Ventus TR 5 R

Paradym 3HL  NVS 65 R
AI Smoke 21* and 24*
PXG GEN6 XP 2X Black 6-GW MMT 6 or AI Smoke 6-GW Tensei white 75 R

PM Grind 2.0 54 and 58

Bettinardi Innovai Rev 6.0  33” 

 E.R.C. Soft TT/ Chrome Soft TT / TM Tour Response '20

 

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I was an off the rack Cameron user for a better part of 17 years. Late 2018 found the artisan makers and tried one at 2°. What an eye opener with an adjusted lie angle. Crazy what happens when you get fit instead of trying to make your current putter work. Currently 2°, 68° lie angle, and almost standard 34".

No more skids, gets rolling much faster.

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Similar to @8overpar, I got fitted and was surprised by the results. I'm 2 degrees of loft with a 72 degree lie angle at 34.75". I had been using a 4 degree loft putter but lowering the loft has helped exponentially with getting the ball rolling more quickly and staying on the intended line.

Driver: TaylorMade SIM 8* (standard setting) with MCA Tensei AV Raw Orange 75TX at 44.5"
3W: TaylorMade M5 15* (standard setting) with Oban Devotion 8 O5 at 42"
Hybrid: PXG Gen 2 0317X 19* (standard setting) with Oban Kiyoshi Purple Hybrid O5 at 39.5"
4i-9i: Callaway '18 Apex MB's with KBS C-Taper 130X at 1/4" long
46: Callaway JAWS MD5 10S
50: Callaway JAWS MD5 10S
54: Callaway JAWS MD5 8C
58: Callaway JAWS MD5 8W
Putter: Kari Lajosi Custom DD201WB

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> @8overpar said:

> I was an off the rack Cameron user for a better part of 17 years. Late 2018 found the artisan makers and tried one at 2°. What an eye opener with an adjusted lie angle. Crazy what happens when you get fit instead of trying to make your current putter work. Currently 2°, 68° lie angle, and almost standard 34".

> No more skids, gets rolling much faster.

I use putter from off the green on tight bermuda alot, how does 2* loft work for that kind of shot? Also, do you forward press when you putt?

My Betti at 3* rolls great on the greens, just struggles with the grainy grasses around the collars.

Rogue ST Max LS or Paradym 10.5 (9.5) Ventus TR 5 R

Paradym 3HL  NVS 65 R
AI Smoke 21* and 24*
PXG GEN6 XP 2X Black 6-GW MMT 6 or AI Smoke 6-GW Tensei white 75 R

PM Grind 2.0 54 and 58

Bettinardi Innovai Rev 6.0  33” 

 E.R.C. Soft TT/ Chrome Soft TT / TM Tour Response '20

 

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> @RainShadow said:

> > @8overpar said:

> > I was an off the rack Cameron user for a better part of 17 years. Late 2018 found the artisan makers and tried one at 2°. What an eye opener with an adjusted lie angle. Crazy what happens when you get fit instead of trying to make your current putter work. Currently 2°, 68° lie angle, and almost standard 34".

> > No more skids, gets rolling much faster.

> I use putter from off the green on tight bermuda alot, how does 2* loft work for that kind of shot? Also, do you forward press when you putt?

> My Betti at 3* rolls great on the greens, just struggles with the grainy grasses around the collars.

 

If it’s off the green it’s rare for me to putt it. If that’s the best option, I will not forward press as I normally do. I’ll let that 2° help. If I get the slightest hang up on my takeaway I’m good as dead. Even collar putts, I’ll hit the middle of the ball with a wedge vs all out putt.

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3*

Qi10 LS / 8* (dialed to 8.75*) / HZRDUS Smoke Green 60 6.5

Qi10 Tour / 3w / Denali Blue 70TX

Mizuno Pro 24 Fli-Hi / 3i / HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 100 6.5
Mizuno Pro 245 / 4-GW / KBS Tour X

SM9 Black / 54,58 / KBS Tour S+

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Odyssey AI-ONE 7CH 35”

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> @"Dr.Frankenputz" said:

> SAM fitting recommend 6 with my forward press. Been putting a better roll on it since going up to 6 since then. Haven’t seen too many people go with more than that.

I wouldn’t think many went with more than 6*, but I seem to remember reading Phil Mickelson has 7* or something like that.

I had a couple of mine checked today and while my gamer has 3*, the one I used yesterday was closer to 5*

 

 

Rogue ST Max LS or Paradym 10.5 (9.5) Ventus TR 5 R

Paradym 3HL  NVS 65 R
AI Smoke 21* and 24*
PXG GEN6 XP 2X Black 6-GW MMT 6 or AI Smoke 6-GW Tensei white 75 R

PM Grind 2.0 54 and 58

Bettinardi Innovai Rev 6.0  33” 

 E.R.C. Soft TT/ Chrome Soft TT / TM Tour Response '20

 

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SAM putt fit twice, both time 1*.

Woods: Callaway Rogue ST Max LS 9*, Ventus Blue 6S / TM Stealth Plus+, 15*, MCA Diamana Thump 75S
Hybrid: PXG 0317 X Proto 3H & 4H, Ventus Blue 7S

Irons: Takomo IRON 101, 5-PW, Accra T90i S
Wedges: Cleveland CBX ZipCore  48* Accra T90i S, 53* & 58*, Accra T100i S
Putter: Evnroll ER 1.2, Tour KBS GPS, 33",
 SuperStroke MidSlim 2.0
Ball: Maxfli Tour
Bag/Cart: '20 Nike Air Hybrid / Clicgear 4.0 / Alphard Club Booster V2 / V2 Swivel Kit
Accessories: Arccos 360 / Garmin G80 / Nikon Coolshot Pro Stabilized

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3.5 degrees here, that loft works great for me as long as I remember to keep ball in middle of my stance. Sometimes i will set up with the ball a little to far forward, old habits can creep in time to time.

Callaway Rogue ST MaxLS 9*w/Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6s

Callaway Epic Flash sz 15* /Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7s

Titleist Tsi2 hybrid 18* /GD Tour AD IZ 85x

Titleist T-100s 4-GW /PX Lz 6.0

Titleist SM9 54-12d, 60-10s /PX Lz 6.0

Bettinardi BBzero

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My very first putter is an old Ping Anser 5 clone that I putt with in my office all the time. It's a long-neck face balanced balanced blade with 1 degree of loft. It also probably weighs 330g or so. I love the roll it puts on the ball. It feels like it gets rolling immediately without any skidding or jumping. That's probably attributable to the lack of loft.

 

My putters are all whatever comes stock, so 3 or 4 degrees in my Jailbird Mini, 7 with the armlock, and 2 with my Yes! I do wonder what sort of roll I would get if I bent the Jailbird to 1 degree loft, but I don't have the guts to do it.

 

Callaway Rogue ST Max 10.5 deg.

Callaway Rogue ST Max 3L

Srixon ZX 3 hybrid

Ping S55 irons

Ping Glide 3.0 54 & 60 deg.

Odyssey White Hot Versa #1

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Interesting comments from those who have been fitted on SAM systems. Almost all have lower lofts, but can I assume this is tested on a tight, green-like surface?

I play a wide variety of courses and grasses, but mostly bermuda and poa on and around greens. There are a few bermuda varietals and some bent grass on occasion.

On the smoother, tighter mown grasses, 3* works great and I don't get skid or hop. However in my little experiment the other day, my putter with 4.5 degrees really seemed to "get up" on top of the grass better than the 3* one, especially fro just off the green. Got me to thinking........ I might bend one of my other putters to 4.5* and see what happens.

 

 

 

 

Rogue ST Max LS or Paradym 10.5 (9.5) Ventus TR 5 R

Paradym 3HL  NVS 65 R
AI Smoke 21* and 24*
PXG GEN6 XP 2X Black 6-GW MMT 6 or AI Smoke 6-GW Tensei white 75 R

PM Grind 2.0 54 and 58

Bettinardi Innovai Rev 6.0  33” 

 E.R.C. Soft TT/ Chrome Soft TT / TM Tour Response '20

 

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