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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members Posts: 643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was hoping to see my GX-7 listed, guess I'll go back to my Epic Flash.

    Epic Speeder 661
    Rogue 4 Wood Evenflow 75 Blue
    Epic Hybrids 3/4/5
    Apex Pro 6-P Recoil 110 F4
    MD Slate Forged 52
    PM Grind 56/60
    Odyssey 7S
    All grips except putter are Iomic Sticky 2.3
  • sbjinxsbjinx Orange CountyMembers Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @easyyy said:

    @rgk5 said:
    As a fitter for the last 15 years, IMO and experience, the lead horses this year are the Cobra F9, Callaway Epic Flash, and the Ping G410.

    Is that the same for all swing speeds? We saw that the speed was a factor for the head choice.

    what driver are you gaming now days? Any plans for a updated WITB?

    Callaway Epic TD - Project X Smoke
    TM M2 - 15*
    Callaway Apex - 19*
    Bridgestone J15 - 4-PW
    Titleist SM7 - 52* & 58*
    Spider X

  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom*** Members Posts: 31,038 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Epic Flash almost with the sweep, wow!

  • T-MACT-MAC Members Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I've hit all of the drivers on this list at some point this year but none of them could compete with my M2 w/ ADDI6.
    Actually, the best driver that I hit this year was the Srixon 785. I had better numbers with it than all of the drivers listed here.

  • rbilramzrbilramz ClubWRX Posts: 793 ClubWRX

    Thanks for such a great piece. Curious about one thing. Since these all went through fitters, I’m guessing results were based of results after fitting the correct shaft for the tester. But was shaft length taken in to consideration? I ask because one of my best golfing buddies (not me, so not a DIRECT experience) claims the PXG would be one of the longest drivers on the market if its stock shafts were the same length as everyone else (45” vs 45.5”).
    I’m hoping this was taken in to consideration, and based on fitter feedback it probably was.

  • pitcher33pitcher33 Members Posts: 24 ✭✭

    PING G410+ that's all!!

  • mrikkingmrikking Members Posts: 206 ✭✭✭

    G410 PLUS was the first driver to remove the old i25 from the bag. I love the sound profile of the Ping clubs and I find their performance to be great. The stability of the G410 in off center hits is amazing and center hits are like a dream I don’t want to wake up from.

    Swing speed 105 - 110

  • trackcoach13trackcoach13 Members Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @BagChatters10 said:
    Coming from a 2017 M2, the F9 is by far the best Driver that I have hit in 2019. I have the TL 9.0 with a Smoke 60 6.5. It's not the longest combo ever but attributes of the club makes it seem like I will have it in the bag for the foreseeable future. My index has dropped from 4.6 to 3.2 in the span of 7 months all because I HIT the fairway. The sound and playability have added a lot of confidence off of the tee. I love teeing it low and having it fly 260 on a line but also being able to play a high draw and it NEVER goes "FORE LEFT". Coming from a longtime Taylormade guy, took a risk and have not regretted it.

    What is a TL 9.0?

    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Driver: Cobra F9 w/ Aldila NV 2KXV Green 65 Stiff
    3W: Titleist 917F2 w/Fujikura Speeder Pro Tour Spec 84 Stiff [/font]

    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]2I: Srixon Z U65 18 Degree w/Miyazaki Kaula 7s
    Irons: Wilson FG Tour v6 4-GW DG S300 AMT
    Wedge: 56/11 Wilson FG Tour PMP Raw Tour Grind[/font]

    Wedge: Vokey SM6 60-12 K-Grind
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Putter: [/font]Odyssey O-WORKS Red Marxman
  • ChuckD724ChuckD724 Members, Paid BST Posts: 51 ✭✭

    I have been playing the Flash SZ with the UST V2 7F5 x flex for about a month and it definitely was better for me than the Atmos. I also have an F9 with an Atmos 7X that I love as well. To me, the numbers and on course results fit those drivers best. I have hit the M5 and M6, but didn’t like the feel/look/sound of them at all.

    WITB
    Flash driver or ST190 when it gets here - depends on how straight I have to be and on what course I am on
    Flash 3W
    Cobra F8 5 wood
    GAPR low pro 3i
    Apex Forged CF16 4-A
    Mack Daddy 4 - 54
    Spider X Copper with sight line

  • brintamaticbrintamatic Members Posts: 42 ✭✭

    What's the most forgiving driver in everyone's opinion?

  • Trying4BetterTrying4Better Members Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    Extremely surprised I have not seen anyone mention the TS3. I had the best numbers by a decent margin, but only after I dialed it in, like really dialed it in. Like I was playing an old arcade game and knowing the cheat code to beat my opponent. I feel the TS3 needs to be unlocked, but man when you do, it goessssssssssssss - and straight! The next closest was the M5. I am a naturally high spin player with 118mph clubhead speed, played at 44.5". I never owned a Titleist club in my life, and never thought of woods for them. Although, I did hit a fairway wood and hybrid awhile ago and thought they were pretty awesome. The surefit hosel is the best in the business. What you set it to is exactly what it does. In the past I did not feel that away about other companies' hosels.

  • The BeavThe Beav Members Posts: 436 ✭✭✭✭

    My current Epic Flash/AD-IZ combo has changed my tee game from a liability to a weapon. Never thought I'd find a club that gave me such great speed and flight combined with accuracy - I've always had to choose one or the other in the past. Also really enjoyed the TS3 in testing. 100-105 SS.

  • tekmantekman MissouriClubWRX Posts: 472 ClubWRX

    I have hit or owned all the top drivers this year. I presently own a Custom Epic Flash sub zero, M5 and a Ping LST g410. The Ping I've only owned 3 weeks and it's my favorite by far.

    • The Callaway when you connect is the longest. It just flat out goes, but the head shape throws me off and the dispersion is the worst for me.
    • The M5 feels amazing, and sounds amazing and looks amazing, but it's the shortest of them all. Injection face is a farce for ball speed, as it falls behind all the top drivers in both my testing and from one of my friends who runs the local Club Champion in all his fittings. Callaway is king with Cobra F9 being close second and Ping LST is making a strong contender now that it's out. The M5 seems to really require very high swing speed to get the most out of it, which most amateurs do not have.
    • Ping G410 LST, is the gamer. I sold my 400 LST after one range session and now 3 weeks later I'm still totally in love with this club. It's straight, it's beautiful, its hot face makes the ball go. I can hit it high or low and the dispersion even with the stock CK Orange rivals my M5 with Speeder Tour spec, surprisingly. Anti Left also, which is nice.
    • Cobra F9, felt great, but I couldn't stand the look. Ball speed was on par with Ping and Callaway, but I couldn't get comfortable with it.
      It has been the best year in recent memory for Drivers and fairway woods.

    ********The one guy that mentioned the 2016 M2 being faster off the face and straighter than the M5/M6 is correct. The 2016 M2 was the best TM driver since the 510TP, which is still a great driver.

    Callaway Custom (Red and Blue) Sub Zero 9.0, Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 
    Callaway Epic 15 Sub Zero Smoke 6.0
    Callaway Apex 2019 hybrid 20* Velix Rome 988
    Callaway Apex Pro Dot Modus 120x 4-PW
    Cobra Raw RF 50, 54, 60 Versatile grind DG S400 Tour issue black

  • tekmantekman MissouriClubWRX Posts: 472 ClubWRX

    @launcher said:
    There's so much personal preference involved in picking the right driver per individual. As some have mentioned. Sound and feel are big for me. At sub 95mph, distance is too close to call, and isn't a factor. I prefer a driver that sets up easily, launches well, and as mentioned, looks and sounds good. This year, I've alternated 3 drivers, that aren't going anywhere.

    Titleist 917D3., Bridgestone J715, and surprisingly, the Wilson Cortex.

    Anything Bridgestone is highly underrated! Huge fan of their products. Have owned at least 8 sets of their irons, multiple wedges, fairway woods, hybrids and Drivers, and I play their golf balls.

    Callaway Custom (Red and Blue) Sub Zero 9.0, Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 
    Callaway Epic 15 Sub Zero Smoke 6.0
    Callaway Apex 2019 hybrid 20* Velix Rome 988
    Callaway Apex Pro Dot Modus 120x 4-PW
    Cobra Raw RF 50, 54, 60 Versatile grind DG S400 Tour issue black

  • ChuckD724ChuckD724 Members, Paid BST Posts: 51 ✭✭

    I also hit the Mizuno st190 this year and really liked it as well. When I bought the F9 later in the year, I was torn between those 2.

    WITB
    Flash driver or ST190 when it gets here - depends on how straight I have to be and on what course I am on
    Flash 3W
    Cobra F8 5 wood
    GAPR low pro 3i
    Apex Forged CF16 4-A
    Mack Daddy 4 - 54
    Spider X Copper with sight line

  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,721 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 27, 2019 2:37pm #48

    As someone who regularly fits players of all levels. I would say the test is almost exactly how I would have lined it out. The Flash is an amazing set of drivers. Hence, I have one in my bag.

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 50 , 55, 60
    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • ksflva63ksflva63 Mid-AtlanticMembers Posts: 33 ✭✭

    @Padreruf said:
    2 years ago I bought a M2 -- fitted and everything. Cannot hit it as straight or as long as my 2007 Taylor-made Burner Draw. Swing speed is 95 -- my pro said the M2 took too much spin off my ball...I needed a head to put more spin on to keep it elevated longer. **Which of these recent drivers will accomplish that? Or is that from the shaft more than the head? ** BTW, from my research the Burner is longer due to a slightly higher COR -- .83 I believe....was lowered to .80 later by the USGA but this club was grandfathered in. I love it when I hit it 10-20 yards past my playing partner who is 6 years younger and taller, etc. He bought a Epic Flash Sub Zero and I still taken him down...and straight!!!

    That's strange b/c he M2 is not a traditional low spinning driver. What loft/shaft combo w/ the M2?

    PING G410+ Tensei Orange
    TM M5 15* Speeder Evo 757 OG
    Callaway Apex Pro Smoke 3/4 TT Elevate
    Callaway Apex MB 5-PW KBS C-Taper Lite
    SM7 50F/54S/58S KBS Tour Custom
    Newport Teryllium 2019

  • ChunkingChunking Members Posts: 8 ✭✭

    I too am a bit surprised by the lack of the TS3. I’ve been testing drivers for the past few months and the TS3 with Hazardous Smoke S keeps coming in at the top position.

    Only reason I don’t pull the trigger is that the gains aren’t significant enough to warrant the price.

    Currently gaming the 2017 Epic SC with Stiff shaft.

    105-107 SS.

  • ShooterMcDabbinShooterMcDabbin LongmontMembers Posts: 37 ✭✭

    Blown away the PXG didn't get better reviews.

    PXG 0811x 9° w/ Oban Devotion 6
    Callaway Big Bertha 3h 18° w/ Oban Devotion 8
    Callaway CF19 Apex Smoke 4-P w/ Black C-Taper Lite 110
    Titleist SM6 50/54/58 w/ Dynamic Gold S
    Tommy Armour TA3

  • NollsterNollster ClubWRX Posts: 347 ClubWRX

    I was surprised the ST190 didn't do better. I was hitting a Ping G30 LST just fine, just didn't like the sound it makes. When I watched the Keith Mitchell ST190 video, I was mostly intrigued by the sound the ST190 made -- especially compared to the ST180! Took one off the rack at the pro shop and it just fit my eye -- that nice open-ish look. Picked one up and couldn't be happier! This thing is long and straight no matter where I hit it on the face and the sound is amazing!! Could I do better? Maybe. But how much better am I really going to do given I'm playing in a once-a-week league and an occasional other round. I paid $46 (plus some trade stuff) for a minty used one and it's staying in the bag for the foreseeable future.

    9.0* Ping G30 Ping Tour (s)
    14.5* Ping G30 GD DI-6 (s)
    18* Adams DHy C-Taper (s) or 17* Titleist 910h ProjectX Tour Issue X-8C4
    4-PW Titleist 712 AP-2 DG300 (s)
    50* Fourteen RM11 DG x100
    54* Fourteen RM12 KBS Hi-Rev
    58* Fourteen RM12 KBS Hi-Rev
    34" Ping Redwood ZB PP-61 grip
    35" Odyssey Versa (Metal X insert) White-Black-White (tour issue)
    WITB Link
  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    my epic flash beat all contenders, even my tour issue M3 that i had. doesn't matter what shaft goes in it -- it goes for days. i converted 2 of my friends who had M5's to go to EFSZ's.

    horses for courses but, callaway put out some winners this year.

    Epic Flash SZ / 9* (set D/S) / Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS 6X tipped 1.50"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    Epic CF17 3i / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 4-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • Puma74Puma74 Members Posts: 76 ✭✭✭

    anyone have any opinions/experience of the M6 with a Tensei PRO orange in stiff?
    thanks

  • mwmgolfxmwmgolfx Members Posts: 454 ✭✭✭✭

    I have an issue with the breakdown of swing speed. Pretty fine split over 95 mph but lumping 70-75 mph with 94 mph is not realistic. There is no way that a club that works well for a person in the low 90s will work similarly well for a person with a swing speed 70+ MPH or even slower. I've played with some oldsters and definitely some women that I doubt could break 70 mph. I know that there are a lot of days I can't break 80 and probably are in the low 70s most of the time. I mean when you average 135 with a longest of 150, I doubt if one is breaking 80 mph. Certainly the club head that I should be using probably isn't one that will react well with a 90+ swinger.

    And I can guarantee that the recommendations of accuracy probably don't apply. I am averaging between 12.5 and 13 fairways hit per round and usually the ones missed are just in the first cut most of the time. Once in a while, I'll pull hook one into the water or deep slice it to the other side (two way miss) but not often). But lack of distance puts an extreme pressure on the long woods and short game. Even on 300 yard par-4s I can't reach them in two and must use a 3 wood on my second shot and still have 60-100 yards left, putting pressure on my short game.

    I've found that having the correct shaft to fit my swing has made way way more difference than the particular head and club. The shaft bend/flex characteristics that I've ended up with really help me with mishits to keep them in play. And not hitting it very far, means that even if i don't hit it straight, I'm not far enough to be in any real trouble. Just lots of 3 woods to recover. I just plan on 3 shots to every hole at least and play it for recovery shots around the green.

    As someone else noted, it would really be nice to compare in a table, the differences between these clubs from 2018 to 2019 and even more from 2017-2019 showing all three years. I'd bet that there is not much difference at all in the under 95 range with most of the differences if any in the over 110 range. I doubt if they are worth the extra money for the small if any differences in the two years. I can remember back when I finally switched from Persimmon to metal head. It wasn't for distance but for accuracy. I kept more drives in the short grass with the metal head but lost overall distance by 20+ yards, but getting more than 80% in the fairway drastically improved my scores. And other than more accuracy, I doubt if the newer clubs provide that much more distance than 20 years ago really, overall. I know it didn't for me. But it did improve my overall % of fairways hit and that was worth the lost distance. As long as one hit the "screws" (inside the circle of screws in the head really) a good persimmon really really went with a high swing speed.

  • gandorgandor Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    TS4 is the longest for me but its the least forgiving. TS3 is more forgiving but not as long as the TS4.

    Titleist TS4 8.5*/TS3 9.5* Tensei Pro Orange 70TX (.5") / TM M5 Tour 9* Tensei Pro Orange 70TX (.5")
    Ping G400 14.5* Tour AD IZ-8TX (1") / Cobra F9 14.5* Tour AD IZ-8TX(1")
    Miura MB-001 Tournament Blade 2i KBS C-Taper Lite 115X / Black P790 3i Recoil ES F4 / Cobra F9 19* Tensei Pro White 100TX
    Miura MB-001 Tournament Blade 4-P Modus3 Tour 120X / TM Black P790 4-PW C-Taper Lite Black LE 115X
    Vokey WedgeWorks V-Grind 50/55/60 DG S400 Tour Issue
    Scotty Tour Black 009M Hoops
    Scotty Tour Black Buttonback T10 Newport Deep Milled Insert Only
    Bettinardi Studio Stock 28 SB Center Shaft Blackout(Spacial Black Friday) Limited Release
    Bettinardi Queen B 5 Blackout(Spacial Black Friday) Limited Release
    Scotty Newport T22(current gamer)
    K-Signature
    WITB Link
  • bkloessbkloess St. Louis, MOMembers Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    Still using Ping G400 LST with Aldila Rogue 125 MSI 60TX. It is like swinging a a 2x4. Going to be tough to get it out of the bag for a while.

    Ping G400 LST 9.5 w/ Rogue 125 TX
    Ping G30 13 w/ Tour AD-DI 8x
    Ping S55 (3-P) w/ Tour Issue DG x100 +.5
    Ping Tour Gorge 52/56/60 w/ DG TI S400
    Scotty 009/ Scotty FB+ Circle T
    Titleist Pro V1x
  • sbjinxsbjinx Orange CountyMembers Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @tekman said:

    • The M5 feels amazing, and sounds amazing and looks amazing, but it's the shortest of them all. Injection face is a farce for ball speed, as it falls behind all the top drivers in both my testing and from one of my friends who runs the local Club Champion in all his fittings. Callaway is king with Cobra F9 being close second and Ping LST is making a strong contender now that it's out. The M5 seems to really require very high swing speed to get the most out of it, which most amateurs do not have.

    Agree with the M5 comment. Had it for a month and loved the look, sound, and when i was swinging well, it was 10+ longer than the 400 LST. Gave it up for the Epic Flash TD and for me a way better driver. I'm really tempted by the 410 LST but not sure if I want to go down the driver testing rabbit hole again. BTW, i'm in the ~100 mph range.

    Callaway Epic TD - Project X Smoke
    TM M2 - 15*
    Callaway Apex - 19*
    Bridgestone J15 - 4-PW
    Titleist SM7 - 52* & 58*
    Spider X

  • SBH9458SBH9458 Go Army! Beat Navy! Members Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    TS4. Longest driver I’ve ever owned. Truth. I haven’t owned it long enough to speak to consistency and such, but it is the longest.

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