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  • BaddsBadds Members Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 29, 2019 1:26am #62

    @Forged4ever said:
    Gronk’ll come back before Luck😉

    As far as “exploitation,” and having Played DI ball and five of my defensive teammates went on to Play on Sundays, and all that I will say is that no one ever “made” us go out and Play, just as no one forced my Buds to sign their contracts and pursue a Professional career. Eleven knee surgeries(5l, 6r) and two shoulder reconstructions(l) later, yea, I guess that I’m payin the price however no one made me Play with injuries that looking back, at least the half season with a chronically dislocated shoulder strapped into place with a chest/bicep harness, I should have probably made a different decision, though I made those decisions of my own volition.

    I haven’t read a single statement much less article regarding Luck, his reasons for retiring or anything about it, though when I heard it my gut said that he lost the passion, lost the fire🔥. Sure injuries svck and the more there are, the older that ya get, the harder that it is to rehab, regroup and come out firing again on all cylinders, however many that may be. They take their toll and the mental rehab and putting one’s mind in the right place is imminently more taxing and difficult than the rehabbing of the actual physical injury. It’s tough and depending on the injury and the date of one’s mind, it can be brutal.

    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that as anyone that has Played ball after HS will tell ya that even in college, it’s a job, and especially if you’re goin to school to get an education also, which I was, it’s can be friggin brutal, cuz my chemistry and physics proffs didn’t wanna hear that I was in so much pain that I’d slept less than three hours since my Saturday game as I sat 3/4 zoned in their Monday morning lecture or lab. Most guys can barely get through college and all they have to do is get up and make it to class, with no other worries or commitments.

    He’s Played a lot of ball, taken a lot of hits and won a lot of games. It’s a roller coaster for sure. He’s gotta life, family and I’m sure many things that he’d like to accomplish and do with a body healthy enough to do them, with his kids, family and friends.

    “He quit on his team😂😂😂?????”

    That statement coming off this board is like the guys that rip a Tour Boy for not being able “to handle the pressure” or giving their opinion on “the worst(THIS was absolutely unequivocally hands down my favorite thread of All-Friggin Time😂😂) Major winner of all-time!!!”

    Oh dear Lord, I friggin loooooove this place😝🤪

    “Quit on his team?????”

    With this I’m gonna bid my adieu~

    I’m in waaaaay over my head here and the one thing that I did learn from Pete was when to exit stage right, maybe not always gracefully, but to get the h*ll off the stage none the less, haha

    Stay well my Friends🍻
    RP

    Steve Beuerlein is not a clueless wrxer. He played 17 years in the NFL and is shocked that Luck quit on his team.

    twitter.com/stevebeuerlein/status/1165664480824455168

  • straightshot7straightshot7 Members Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    It's his life, he can quit if he wants to.

    But I don't buy the whole "he made the decision that was best for his health" etc...as if he was really forced to make the decision due to health concerns.

    No, guys have played through a lot worse. He just doesn't want to play anymore because he's already rich and he's not in love with the game.

    That's fine. Let's just not pretend it was some noble decision he was forced to make.

  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,888 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. The entitlement of some people’s children.

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  • bscinstnctbscinstnct Members Posts: 27,294 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Luck is a big dude.

    He got hit hard enough to sustain a lacerated kidney.

    I think the people criticizing him should have to sustain such a hit

    Then go back out and get whaled on 100 more times

    Before they open their mouths ; )

  • Forged4everForged4ever To See A Man’s True Character, Spend 4+ Hours With Him on a Golf Course⛳️ The Burgh/Hdcp: My gene poolClubWRX Posts: 15,792 ClubWRX

    @Im_A_Savage said:

    @Forged4ever said:
    Gronk’ll come back before Luck😉

    As far as “exploitation,” and having Played DI ball and five of my defensive teammates went on to Play on Sundays, and all that I will say is that no one ever “made” us go out and Play, just as no one forced my Buds to sign their contracts and pursue a Professional career. Eleven knee surgeries(5l, 6r) and two shoulder reconstructions(l) later, yea, I guess that I’m payin the price however no one made me Play with injuries that looking back, at least the half season with a chronically dislocated shoulder strapped into place with a chest/bicep harness, I should have probably made a different decision, though I made those decisions of my own volition.

    I haven’t read a single statement much less article regarding Luck, his reasons for retiring or anything about it, though when I heard it my gut said that he lost the passion, lost the fire🔥. Sure injuries svck and the more there are, the older that ya get, the harder that it is to rehab, regroup and come out firing again on all cylinders, however many that may be. They take their toll and the mental rehab and putting one’s mind in the right place is imminently more taxing and difficult than the rehabbing of the actual physical injury. It’s tough and depending on the injury and the date of one’s mind, it can be brutal.

    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that as anyone that has Played ball after HS will tell ya that even in college, it’s a job, and especially if you’re goin to school to get an education also, which I was, it’s can be friggin brutal, cuz my chemistry and physics proffs didn’t wanna hear that I was in so much pain that I’d slept less than three hours since my Saturday game as I sat 3/4 zoned in their Monday morning lecture or lab. Most guys can barely get through college and all they have to do is get up and make it to class, with no other worries or commitments.

    He’s Played a lot of ball, taken a lot of hits and won a lot of games. It’s a roller coaster for sure. He’s gotta life, family and I’m sure many things that he’d like to accomplish and do with a body healthy enough to do them, with his kids, family and friends.

    “He quit on his team😂😂😂?????”

    That statement coming off this board is like the guys that rip a Tour Boy for not being able “to handle the pressure” or giving their opinion on “the worst(THIS was absolutely unequivocally hands down my favorite thread of All-Friggin Time😂😂) Major winner of all-time!!!”

    Oh dear Lord, I friggin loooooove this place😝🤪

    “Quit on his team?????”

    With this I’m gonna bid my adieu~

    I’m in waaaaay over my head here and the one thing that I did learn from Pete was when to exit stage right, maybe not always gracefully, but to get the h*ll off the stage none the less, haha

    Stay well my Friends🍻
    RP

    Steve Beuerlein is not a clueless wrxer. He played 17 years in the NFL and is shocked that Luck quit on his team.

    twitter.com/stevebeuerlein/status/1165664480824455168

    Exactly!!!!!

    Steve Beuerlein has “been there done that” and has earned the right to say anything that he wants, whether I or anyone else agree with him or not.

    A “clueless wrxer” has not😉

    All the Best,
    RP

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  • Forged4everForged4ever To See A Man’s True Character, Spend 4+ Hours With Him on a Golf Course⛳️ The Burgh/Hdcp: My gene poolClubWRX Posts: 15,792 ClubWRX
    edited Aug 29, 2019 3:20am #67

    @straightshot7 said:
    It's his life, he can quit if he wants to.

    But I don't buy the whole "he made the decision that was best for his health" etc...as if he was really forced to make the decision due to health concerns.

    No, guys have played through a lot worse. He just doesn't want to play anymore because he's already rich and he's not in love with the game.

    That's fine. Let's just not pretend it was some noble decision he was forced to make.

    Well put Brother👊

    This is what my gut is tellin me though we’ll probably never know.

    I gotta feeling that there were some “tells” that had nothin to do with injuries if some of the guys in the locker room look back over the past year or so.

    I hope that you’re having a nice season😊

    Stay well🍻
    RP

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  • orblessorbless Members Posts: 148 ✭✭✭

    Shouldn't this be moved to the 19th hole or somewhere else? Why would we care about NFL crap in the Tour Talk section of GOLFwrx?

  • straightshot7straightshot7 Members Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Forged4ever said:

    @straightshot7 said:
    It's his life, he can quit if he wants to.

    But I don't buy the whole "he made the decision that was best for his health" etc...as if he was really forced to make the decision due to health concerns.

    No, guys have played through a lot worse. He just doesn't want to play anymore because he's already rich and he's not in love with the game.

    That's fine. Let's just not pretend it was some noble decision he was forced to make.

    Well put Brother👊

    This is what my gut is tellin me though we’ll probably never know.

    I gotta feeling that there were some “tells” that had nothin to do with injuries if some of the guys in the locker room look back over the past year or so.

    I hope that you’re having a nice season😊

    Stay well🍻
    RP

    Thanks you too!

    Yeah I mean it's his decision and more power to him.

    But what changed between now and 6 months ago? A calf injury?

    Maybe he realized he didn't have the game/arm/shoulder left to lead a team?

    I don't know but I don't think it was because of concerns over protecting his brain from concussions.

  • SBH9458SBH9458 Go Army! Beat Navy! Members Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    My perception is that Luck is an honest man. Honest enough, and cerebral enough, to know it was time to walk away. Combining injuries (real pain, not discomfort), mental tolls that were being paid at and ever increasing amount, and the prospect of nothing changing in regards to these things put him in what appeared to be a desperate state, and he wanted out of that desperation. I neither fault nor applaud, but I observe these things in him. I wish him well, and I hope he breaks par this year!

  • dlygrissedlygrisse KansasMembers Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    The guy probably has 30 million in his bank account. He’s one hit in the head away from potential brain damage, he is in constant pain, I say he might be the smartest guy in the room.

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  • dlygrissedlygrisse KansasMembers Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ferguson said:

    @bullie76 said:
    A lesson for golf fans? Dumb article.

    Agreed. Terribly written.

    Here is a lesson: the so-called journalists of today should focus more on the given event and less on the public's reaction to the event.

    Space filler.

    Journalism is dead, it’s all about the tweets and retweets, likes and “hits”

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  • PowderedToastManPowderedToastMan Members Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 1, 2019 2:00pm #73

    We all have the right to quit our jobs whenever we want (we might not have the luxury, but we have the right). Luck has no ownership in the Colts or the NFL; he’s an employee. I believe in loyalty and commitment, but honestly, who here has worked one job their whole life? Who hasn’t quit a good job with good bosses to pursue a better opportunity?

    This is disappointing because Luck was really good at what he did, but ultimately he should be allowed to make choices that affect his life. It’s like when Michael Jordan retired during his prime Bulls years. It was disappointing because Chicago had just finished a 3-peat and the core of the team was sticking together. Could have been 8-9 championships without that baseball stint. But MJ had that right and, honestly, he didn’t owe the fans or ownership anything.

    If we only made decisions that didn’t disappoint anyone, we probably wouldn’t make many decisions, and certainly would be sacrificing our own happiness and health. It’s no different for professional athletes. Remember, this is their JOB.

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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @dlygrisse said:
    The guy probably has 30 million in his bank account. He’s one hit in the head away from potential brain damage, he is in constant pain, I say he might be the smartest guy in the room.

    Robert Smith, Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders probably agree as do several guys who recently called it quits in the last couple years after a season or two.

  • JohnnyMIkeJohnnyMIke Members Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭

    @15th Club said:
    I like Andrew Luck, I respect his decision, and I actually love this issue for what it is.

    To me, this is a gigantic issue about how wonderful college football is, and how awful the NFL is. Can anybody imagine a stadium of Stanford students and alumni at Stanford Stadium ever booing Andrew Luck for any reason? Yet that is what some of the boorish NFL fans in Indianapolis did. It's shameful. Hateful, really. They simply proved that Luck made the right decision. Big time. Luck loved college football and everything about it and played it for nothing more than a scholarship and the fun of playing.

    I bring this up in the context of a golf discussion because so often I see comparisons of golf, and golf's ruling bodies, to other professional sports leagues. But the NFL is not "football," and the PGA Tour is

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    Ugh. Cant seem to delete previous comment from my phone.

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  • SkhackerSkhacker The Minimalist Golfer Members Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Just my humble opinion, but maybe people should look at it as not what he's lost by retiring early, but by what he's gained. Life and health are pretty important.

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