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  • MakersMarsh3MakersMarsh3 Members Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 9, 2019 11:04pm #33

    @YoungJedi said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @dmecca2 said:

    @third-times-a-charm said:
    Full bag? There goes his career, just like Hovland and ping...

    Pretty bad take here. Hovland has been playing amazing and his strokes gained off the tee numbers with the Ping were on par with Rory's.

    Not to mention his strokes gained approach. They didn’t count, as he wasn’t a member...but had they counted he would have been ranked 3rd in SG approach.

    Led field on off the tee handful of times as well

    I’m all in on Hovland, but please don’t compare his stats during the birdie fest stretch of events he played in to the yearlong resume of Rory
    Please and thank you

    US open and The Masters are considered Birdie Fests? Lol

    All the stats you pimped were from after, he did great off the tee at Pebble for sure, but don't think he hit a ton of drivers
    A bulk of his starts are from a run of easier events, it's just the truth
    Doesn't mean he's not awesome, just don't think the Rory comparison is there yet

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  • YoungJediYoungJedi Members Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @dmecca2 said:

    @third-times-a-charm said:
    Full bag? There goes his career, just like Hovland and ping...

    Pretty bad take here. Hovland has been playing amazing and his strokes gained off the tee numbers with the Ping were on par with Rory's.

    Not to mention his strokes gained approach. They didn’t count, as he wasn’t a member...but had they counted he would have been ranked 3rd in SG approach.

    Led field on off the tee handful of times as well

    I’m all in on Hovland, but please don’t compare his stats during the birdie fest stretch of events he played in to the yearlong resume of Rory
    Please and thank you

    US open and The Masters are considered Birdie Fests? Lol

    All the stats you pimped were from after, he did great off the tee at Pebble for sure, but don't think he hit a ton of drivers
    A bulk of his starts are from a run of easier events, it's just the truth
    Doesn't mean he's not awesome, just don't think the Rory comparison is there yet

    Yea wasn’t meaning to compare him to Rory, rather disprove the guy who basically said Hovland is trash. Lol

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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm Members Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @YoungJedi said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @dmecca2 said:

    @third-times-a-charm said:
    Full bag? There goes his career, just like Hovland and ping...

    Pretty bad take here. Hovland has been playing amazing and his strokes gained off the tee numbers with the Ping were on par with Rory's.

    Not to mention his strokes gained approach. They didn’t count, as he wasn’t a member...but had they counted he would have been ranked 3rd in SG approach.

    Led field on off the tee handful of times as well

    I’m all in on Hovland, but please don’t compare his stats during the birdie fest stretch of events he played in to the yearlong resume of Rory
    Please and thank you

    US open and The Masters are considered Birdie Fests? Lol

    All the stats you pimped were from after, he did great off the tee at Pebble for sure, but don't think he hit a ton of drivers
    A bulk of his starts are from a run of easier events, it's just the truth
    Doesn't mean he's not awesome, just don't think the Rory comparison is there yet

    Yea wasn’t meaning to compare him to Rory, rather disprove the guy who basically said Hovland is trash. Lol

    I didnt say he was trash. I said player signing full bags is the majority of the time a death knell for their game because no one manufacturer makes the best everything in the bag. Sure some players are good enough to make-do, but most arent. 'Trash' is your wording, not mine.

    Sure, Hovland took the money from ping and ran before even getting on tour...good for him I guess.

  • dmecca2dmecca2 Scranton, PAMembers Posts: 80 ✭✭✭

    @third-times-a-charm said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @YoungJedi said:

    @dmecca2 said:

    @third-times-a-charm said:
    Full bag? There goes his career, just like Hovland and ping...

    Pretty bad take here. Hovland has been playing amazing and his strokes gained off the tee numbers with the Ping were on par with Rory's.

    Not to mention his strokes gained approach. They didn’t count, as he wasn’t a member...but had they counted he would have been ranked 3rd in SG approach.

    Led field on off the tee handful of times as well

    I’m all in on Hovland, but please don’t compare his stats during the birdie fest stretch of events he played in to the yearlong resume of Rory
    Please and thank you

    US open and The Masters are considered Birdie Fests? Lol

    All the stats you pimped were from after, he did great off the tee at Pebble for sure, but don't think he hit a ton of drivers
    A bulk of his starts are from a run of easier events, it's just the truth
    Doesn't mean he's not awesome, just don't think the Rory comparison is there yet

    Yea wasn’t meaning to compare him to Rory, rather disprove the guy who basically said Hovland is trash. Lol

    I didnt say he was trash. I said player signing full bags is the majority of the time a death knell for their game because no one manufacturer makes the best everything in the bag. Sure some players are good enough to make-do, but most arent. 'Trash' is your wording, not mine.

    Sure, Hovland took the money from ping and ran before even getting on tour...good for him I guess.

    You implied his career was failing because of his switch, which is far from the truth. While I agree full bag switches usually aren't great for the player, your example was a bad one.

  • canonlbp430canonlbp430 Members Posts: 268 ✭✭✭✭

    I would guess this one will work out better than the Norman Xiong signing for Callaway.

  • MakersMarsh3MakersMarsh3 Members Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 10, 2019 2:31pm #38

    I guess Callaway has had a bad run with their real good ams....
    Lee McCoy, Norman Xiong
    Sam Burns, Mav, Ollie are underachieving
    I don't think any are paying off like they thought they would or wanted

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  • Dr. BombayDr. Bombay Members Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭

    @ASN21 said:

    @Jigga said:

    @ASN21 said:
    I kinda got a bad vibe from him but supported him because he was a TaylorMade guy but now....no reason to root for this guy haha.

    What bad vibe?

    Nothing wrong with having confidence but this guy hasn’t done anything yet to be as cocky as he is.

    All of the below before he would have even enrolled in college...pretty healthy resume for a kid who doesn't turn 18 until January 31, 2020.

    2019 Walker Cup team member (2-1 overall, won in singles)
    No. 5 in World Amateur Golf Ranking
    Runner-up in 2018 U.S. Junior Amateur at Baltusrol Golf Club, losing, 1 down, to Michael Thorbjornsen in 36-hole final
    Advanced to the Round of 32 in 2019 U.S. Amateur at Pinehurst
    2019 Jones Cup champion
    2018 American Junior Golf Association Player of the Year
    2018 Sage Valley Junior Invitational champion
    2018 Polo Junior Golf Classic champion
    2017 and 2018 Boys Junior PGA Championship winner
    Member of victorious 2017 USA Junior Ryder Cup Team
    Competed in PGA Tour’s 2019 Valspar Championship
    Made 36-hole cut in Korn Ferry Tour’s Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail Championship (T-42)
    Lost in 19 holes in Round of 64 of 2018 U.S. Amateur at Pebble Beach

  • ASN21ASN21 #TeamTaylorMade Bay AreaMembers Posts: 252 ✭✭✭✭

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Jigga said:

    @ASN21 said:
    I kinda got a bad vibe from him but supported him because he was a TaylorMade guy but now....no reason to root for this guy haha.

    What bad vibe?

    Nothing wrong with having confidence but this guy hasn’t done anything yet to be as cocky as he is.

    All of the below before he would have even enrolled in college...pretty healthy resume for a kid who doesn't turn 18 until January 31, 2020.

    2019 Walker Cup team member (2-1 overall, won in singles)
    No. 5 in World Amateur Golf Ranking
    Runner-up in 2018 U.S. Junior Amateur at Baltusrol Golf Club, losing, 1 down, to Michael Thorbjornsen in 36-hole final
    Advanced to the Round of 32 in 2019 U.S. Amateur at Pinehurst
    2019 Jones Cup champion
    2018 American Junior Golf Association Player of the Year
    2018 Sage Valley Junior Invitational champion
    2018 Polo Junior Golf Classic champion
    2017 and 2018 Boys Junior PGA Championship winner
    Member of victorious 2017 USA Junior Ryder Cup Team
    Competed in PGA Tour’s 2019 Valspar Championship
    Made 36-hole cut in Korn Ferry Tour’s Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail Championship (T-42)
    Lost in 19 holes in Round of 64 of 2018 U.S. Amateur at Pebble Beach

    Color me unimpressed.

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  • Dr. BombayDr. Bombay Members Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 10, 2019 3:26pm #41

    @musclefront said:
    Think he’s gonna struggle. Skipping college rarely works out as you get competitive D1 reps every day plus learn how to be social and an adult. Not to mention free education and mentoring from your coaches. Kinda doesn’t make sense skipping to me considering all the benefits. It’s not like b-ball or football where an injury can ruin your career early (generally).

    Bhatia has played an international schedule for for a couple of years now. For him there is nothing to be learned from schlepping around in a van with a bunch of guys who aren't as good as him.

    5 amateur in the world at age 17...time to move up.

    (FYI...not sure why I'm getting all these different fonts, bold, etc)

  • snizzlesnizzle Members Posts: 478 ✭✭✭✭

    @MakersMarsh3 said:
    I guess Callaway has had a bad run with their real good ams....
    Lee McCoy, Norman Xiong
    Sam Burns, Mav, Ollie are underachieving
    I don't think any are paying off like they thought they would or wanted

    Yeah it's been almost the kiss of death for a top amateur to sign with them. Xander is probably the only somewhat household name and strangely he wasn't nearly as hyped coming out of college or am ranks.

  • Dr. BombayDr. Bombay Members Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 10, 2019 3:41pm #43

    One observation on TaylorMade....
    ....the company is currently owned by the private equity firm KPS Capital Partners.
    When KPS bought the company in 2017 TaylorMade was losing upwards of $100,000,000 per year. The private equity guys have two goals, (i) straighten out the financials and get TM profitable again, and (ii) then sell it for more than they paid for it.
    All the tee-up money and endless staff deals went out the window when the new owners took over....nothing but whales now. Tour staff consists of Tiger Woods, Rickie Fowler, Dustin Johnson, Jason Day, Rory McIlroy, Jon Rahm, Sung Hyun Park....and now Wolff. If Bhatia was even offered a deal it probably wasn't much to write home about. Hovland played TM as an amateur too but switched to Ping when he turned pro.

  • Dr. BombayDr. Bombay Members Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭

    @ASN21 said:

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Jigga said:

    @ASN21 said:
    I kinda got a bad vibe from him but supported him because he was a TaylorMade guy but now....no reason to root for this guy haha.

    What bad vibe?

    Nothing wrong with having confidence but this guy hasn’t done anything yet to be as cocky as he is.

    All of the below before he would have even enrolled in college...pretty healthy resume for a kid who doesn't turn 18 until January 31, 2020.

    2019 Walker Cup team member (2-1 overall, won in singles)
    No. 5 in World Amateur Golf Ranking
    Runner-up in 2018 U.S. Junior Amateur at Baltusrol Golf Club, losing, 1 down, to Michael Thorbjornsen in 36-hole final
    Advanced to the Round of 32 in 2019 U.S. Amateur at Pinehurst
    2019 Jones Cup champion
    2018 American Junior Golf Association Player of the Year
    2018 Sage Valley Junior Invitational champion
    2018 Polo Junior Golf Classic champion
    2017 and 2018 Boys Junior PGA Championship winner
    Member of victorious 2017 USA Junior Ryder Cup Team
    Competed in PGA Tour’s 2019 Valspar Championship
    Made 36-hole cut in Korn Ferry Tour’s Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail Championship (T-42)
    Lost in 19 holes in Round of 64 of 2018 U.S. Amateur at Pebble Beach

    Color me unimpressed.

    Assuming you are not kidding (surely you are)....
    ....whose resume resume at age 17 would you cite as having impressed you?

  • ASN21ASN21 #TeamTaylorMade Bay AreaMembers Posts: 252 ✭✭✭✭

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Jigga said:

    @ASN21 said:
    I kinda got a bad vibe from him but supported him because he was a TaylorMade guy but now....no reason to root for this guy haha.

    What bad vibe?

    Nothing wrong with having confidence but this guy hasn’t done anything yet to be as cocky as he is.

    All of the below before he would have even enrolled in college...pretty healthy resume for a kid who doesn't turn 18 until January 31, 2020.

    2019 Walker Cup team member (2-1 overall, won in singles)
    No. 5 in World Amateur Golf Ranking
    Runner-up in 2018 U.S. Junior Amateur at Baltusrol Golf Club, losing, 1 down, to Michael Thorbjornsen in 36-hole final
    Advanced to the Round of 32 in 2019 U.S. Amateur at Pinehurst
    2019 Jones Cup champion
    2018 American Junior Golf Association Player of the Year
    2018 Sage Valley Junior Invitational champion
    2018 Polo Junior Golf Classic champion
    2017 and 2018 Boys Junior PGA Championship winner
    Member of victorious 2017 USA Junior Ryder Cup Team
    Competed in PGA Tour’s 2019 Valspar Championship
    Made 36-hole cut in Korn Ferry Tour’s Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail Championship (T-42)
    Lost in 19 holes in Round of 64 of 2018 U.S. Amateur at Pebble Beach

    Color me unimpressed.

    Assuming you are not kidding (surely you are)....
    ....whose resume resume at age 17 would you cite as having impressed you?

    Get back to me when he does something of substance on the PGA tour. Everything else before is for nothing if you can't ball on the main stage.

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  • Dr. BombayDr. Bombay Members Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭

    @ASN21 said:

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Jigga said:

    @ASN21 said:
    I kinda got a bad vibe from him but supported him because he was a TaylorMade guy but now....no reason to root for this guy haha.

    What bad vibe?

    Nothing wrong with having confidence but this guy hasn’t done anything yet to be as cocky as he is.

    All of the below before he would have even enrolled in college...pretty healthy resume for a kid who doesn't turn 18 until January 31, 2020.

    2019 Walker Cup team member (2-1 overall, won in singles)
    No. 5 in World Amateur Golf Ranking
    Runner-up in 2018 U.S. Junior Amateur at Baltusrol Golf Club, losing, 1 down, to Michael Thorbjornsen in 36-hole final
    Advanced to the Round of 32 in 2019 U.S. Amateur at Pinehurst
    2019 Jones Cup champion
    2018 American Junior Golf Association Player of the Year
    2018 Sage Valley Junior Invitational champion
    2018 Polo Junior Golf Classic champion
    2017 and 2018 Boys Junior PGA Championship winner
    Member of victorious 2017 USA Junior Ryder Cup Team
    Competed in PGA Tour’s 2019 Valspar Championship
    Made 36-hole cut in Korn Ferry Tour’s Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail Championship (T-42)
    Lost in 19 holes in Round of 64 of 2018 U.S. Amateur at Pebble Beach

    Color me unimpressed.

    Assuming you are not kidding (surely you are)....
    ....whose resume resume at age 17 would you cite as having impressed you?

    Get back to me when he does something of substance on the PGA tour. Everything else before is for nothing if you can't ball on the main stage.

    Did Jay Sigel impress you? Ever heard of him?

  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MakersMarsh3 said:
    I guess Callaway has had a bad run with their real good ams....
    Lee McCoy, Norman Xiong
    Sam Burns, Mav, Ollie are underachieving
    I don't think any are paying off like they thought they would or wanted

    Harris English too

  • Springbok45Springbok45 Members Posts: 20 ✭✭

    Hovland played TM as an amateur too but switched to Ping when he turned pro.

    He played Ping through college, so not quite accurate

  • MakersMarsh3MakersMarsh3 Members Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 10, 2019 7:53pm #49

    @Springbok45 said:

    Hovland played TM as an amateur too but switched to Ping when he turned pro.

    He played Ping through college, so not quite accurate

    This is 100% wrong
    Was a full TM bag until the US Open
    Only non TM club he gamed was a Callaway Utility that I'm pretty sure he stole from Bachou
    He was still paying the TM wedges and putter as well on Tour

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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @Springbok45 said:

    Hovland played TM as an amateur too but switched to Ping when he turned pro.

    He played Ping through college, so not quite accurate

    This is 100% wrong
    Was a full TM bag until the US Open
    Only non TM club he gamed was a Callaway Utility that I'm pretty sure he stole from Bachou
    He was still paying the TM wedges and putter as well on Tour

    Yup sand wasn’t until a meeting at the masters in the tour truck that led to the switch

  • Dr. BombayDr. Bombay Members Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭

    @Springbok45 said:

    Hovland played TM as an amateur too but switched to Ping when he turned pro.

    He played Ping through college, so not quite accurate

    Hovland said signing a deal that did not include the ball helped with his decision. "Not having to change the ball made the change easier for sure," he said. "TaylorMade [Hovland played TaylorMade clubs earlier in the year] would have been all 14 clubs plus the ball. So while with Ping I have to change some equipment, I liked the idea of 11 clubs and being able to stay with the Titleist ball I had been playing. Plus I have the opportunity to have three other clubs and I like that leeway."
    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/viktor-hovland-matthew-wolff-turn-pro-at-travelers-championship-and-immediately-cash-in-with-equipment-deals
    When nut-cutting time arrived sure sounds like he had a lot of TaylorMade clubs in the bag and zero Ping clubs.
    Further backing that up:
    What was the transition like going from TaylorMade to Ping equipment?
    Viktor Hovland: It wasn’t all that complicated. It was more just taking a few clubs out and trying to match them to the specs of my previous TaylorMade.

    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/viktor-hovland-matthew-wolff-turn-pro-at-travelers-championship-and-immediately-cash-in-with-equipment-deals
    Seen no evidence he ever played bagged Ping in college. When he won US Am appears he had a full bag of TM clubs: https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1682080/hovland-witb

  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @snizzle said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:
    I guess Callaway has had a bad run with their real good ams....
    Lee McCoy, Norman Xiong
    Sam Burns, Mav, Ollie are underachieving
    I don't think any are paying off like they thought they would or wanted

    Yeah it's been almost the kiss of death for a top amateur to sign with them. Xander is probably the only somewhat household name and strangely he wasn't nearly as hyped coming out of college or am ranks.

    Xander played TM clubs before he signed with Callaway.

  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoGoErky said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:

    @Springbok45 said:

    Hovland played TM as an amateur too but switched to Ping when he turned pro.

    He played Ping through college, so not quite accurate

    This is 100% wrong
    Was a full TM bag until the US Open
    Only non TM club he gamed was a Callaway Utility that I'm pretty sure he stole from Bachou
    He was still paying the TM wedges and putter as well on Tour

    Yup sand wasn’t until a meeting at the masters in the tour truck that led to the switch

    Correct. Here is the Masters story.
    https://www.golf.com/gear/pros-bags/2019/06/19/ping-signs-viktor-hovland-masters-meeting/

  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,630 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Great pickup for Callaway. He's going to be a big-time player on tour.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I am confused by the negativity toward the kid and callaway. Where is this coming from?? Do people not want him to be successful? Why does it matter who he decides to sign a equipment deal with? If I had the skill to play on the PGA tour. I would sign with whoever paid the most. All the OEMs are able to produce wonderful high quality equipment that fits me. So it really does not matter which it is.

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  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,630 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @QuigleyDU said:
    I am confused by the negativity toward the kid and callaway. Where is this coming from?? Do people not want him to be successful? Why does it matter who he decides to sign a equipment deal with? If I had the skill to play on the PGA tour. I would sign with whoever paid the most. All the OEMs are able to produce wonderful high quality equipment that fits me. So it really does not matter which it is.

    For some odd reason they want everyone to go to TM and if they don't it's only because another company threw a ton of money at them. The irony is TM is the company that throws all the money at people hence they have TIger, Rory, DJ, ect... Companies like Ping and Callaway sit back and have less big name players but lead in sales.

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  • MakersMarsh3MakersMarsh3 Members Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 11, 2019 1:49pm #57

    @J13 said:

    @QuigleyDU said:
    I am confused by the negativity toward the kid and callaway. Where is this coming from?? Do people not want him to be successful? Why does it matter who he decides to sign a equipment deal with? If I had the skill to play on the PGA tour. I would sign with whoever paid the most. All the OEMs are able to produce wonderful high quality equipment that fits me. So it really does not matter which it is.

    For some odd reason they want everyone to go to TM and if they don't it's only because another company threw a ton of money at them. The irony is TM is the company that throws all the money at people hence they have TIger, Rory, DJ, ect... Companies like Ping and Callaway sit back and have less big name players but lead in sales.

    I don’t think people expect everyone to go to TM. Just more so the fact that he’s had a what seemed to be great relationship with them for a long time, so it was a bit of a shock to see him switch all of he sudden a month before he turns pro.
    These OEMs work so diligently with these elite kids when they’re young. Not many of them make it this far. So it’s rare they actually capitalize.
    Same way it would be weird to see a kid in the Ping program his whole life sign with Callaway
    TM definitely pay their tops guys a ton. But those guys are marketing giants imo. I guess it’s why they’re not able to pony up the $ for all their young guns. I think overpaying for Wolff set the market and lost them some chances as well. So unfortunately it was most likely about $

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @J13 said:

    @QuigleyDU said:
    I am confused by the negativity toward the kid and callaway. Where is this coming from?? Do people not want him to be successful? Why does it matter who he decides to sign a equipment deal with? If I had the skill to play on the PGA tour. I would sign with whoever paid the most. All the OEMs are able to produce wonderful high quality equipment that fits me. So it really does not matter which it is.

    For some odd reason they want everyone to go to TM and if they don't it's only because another company threw a ton of money at them. The irony is TM is the company that throws all the money at people hence they have TIger, Rory, DJ, ect... Companies like Ping and Callaway sit back and have less big name players but lead in sales.

    Yeah, I don't understand it. Taylormade has put out some great equipment the past few years. But how many am stick to what they were playing before hitting the big stage? I feel like it is mainly the titleist kids that hang on. The rest are hit or miss.

    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 10.5*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    Fairway: Cobra F9 Tour, GD TOUR AD-DI 8X 
    3 iron Cobra King Utility
    4-PW cobra King pro CBs KBS $ taper 130g X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 50 , 55, 60
    PUTTER; Carbon Ringo welded long neck.
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • golfinguru11golfinguru11 Bay AreaMembers Posts: 267 ✭✭✭✭

    And then there’s the dude who made more than anyone else playing whatever the **** he wants. Bag deals are going the way of the typewriter imo.

    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 10.5* - Aldila 130msi Rogue Black 60 tx 
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* - Accra TZ6 75 x
    Callaway Apex Hybrid 20* - VA Raijin 84 x
    Mizuno MP-54 (4,5) MP-20 (6-PW) - Nippon Modus 125 s
    Vokey SM7 RAW 52F 56S 60D - Nippon Modus 125 wedge
    Odyssey White Hot 2 Ball 

    Lefty, Lead tape enthusiast
  • lowheellowheel LOWHEEL Members Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 11, 2019 5:33pm #60

    @ASN21 said:

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Dr. Bombay said:

    @ASN21 said:

    @Jigga said:

    @ASN21 said:
    I kinda got a bad vibe from him but supported him because he was a TaylorMade guy but now....no reason to root for this guy haha.

    What bad vibe?

    Nothing wrong with having confidence but this guy hasn’t done anything yet to be as cocky as he is.

    All of the below before he would have even enrolled in college...pretty healthy resume for a kid who doesn't turn 18 until January 31, 2020.

    2019 Walker Cup team member (2-1 overall, won in singles)
    No. 5 in World Amateur Golf Ranking
    Runner-up in 2018 U.S. Junior Amateur at Baltusrol Golf Club, losing, 1 down, to Michael Thorbjornsen in 36-hole final
    Advanced to the Round of 32 in 2019 U.S. Amateur at Pinehurst
    2019 Jones Cup champion
    2018 American Junior Golf Association Player of the Year
    2018 Sage Valley Junior Invitational champion
    2018 Polo Junior Golf Classic champion
    2017 and 2018 Boys Junior PGA Championship winner
    Member of victorious 2017 USA Junior Ryder Cup Team
    Competed in PGA Tour’s 2019 Valspar Championship
    Made 36-hole cut in Korn Ferry Tour’s Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail Championship (T-42)
    Lost in 19 holes in Round of 64 of 2018 U.S. Amateur at Pebble Beach

    Color me unimpressed.

    Assuming you are not kidding (surely you are)....
    ....whose resume resume at age 17 would you cite as having impressed you?

    Get back to me when he does something of substance on the PGA tour. Everything else before is for nothing if you can't ball on the main stage.

    yikes man. the kid is 17 years old. give your head a shake... are you really that mad at a kid for not playing your favorite brand anymore?

  • snizzlesnizzle Members Posts: 478 ✭✭✭✭

    @grm24 said:

    @snizzle said:

    @MakersMarsh3 said:
    I guess Callaway has had a bad run with their real good ams....
    Lee McCoy, Norman Xiong
    Sam Burns, Mav, Ollie are underachieving
    I don't think any are paying off like they thought they would or wanted

    Yeah it's been almost the kiss of death for a top amateur to sign with them. Xander is probably the only somewhat household name and strangely he wasn't nearly as hyped coming out of college or am ranks.

    Xander played TM clubs before he signed with Callaway.

    Yeah I know there have been several that have switched like Bhatia. TM can't sign them all.
    Personally (just my personal opinion) I know the $ is enticing esp for a kid coming on tour but I wouldn't go with a full bag of Callaways or any other club maker for that matter. I just feel that the TM drivers are the best. The Vokey wedges, Titleist balls, etc. I know one tour pro sponsored by Callaway but he's been spotted on the range using an M5. Callaway expects their staffers esp the young kids to go full bag all the way down to putter and balls and I think that's a little bit of a disadvantage to do that. I won't root for or against a guy based on their equipment though.

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