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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8044Members Posts: 8,044
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    First world problem of I ever heard one lol. Just go to a public range with the beat up mats and 20 year old top flite if you want to dress in a t shirt and gym shorts.

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    I think in whole times have changed and like I say a lot it has to do with the demographics of the area. When I grew up my Old Man ran a public daily fee course and we had no dress code per say. The only code we had was you had to wear shirts in the clubhouse and that was because my Step Mom and a couple of other ladies worked in there.
    When I moved here to the beach some 20 years ago at all the courses you had to wear "proper golf attire". That has changed somewhat unless it is at the upper tier ( read pricey) courses. I can remember at my home course you could not even go out on the range unless you had a collared shirt on and proper golf pants. Now it ain't so they even sell tee shirts in the pro shop with the course name on it. From a business standpoint I can see the changes after all we are at the beach and in a resort area and guests are on vacation and having fun. Personally I have no problem there. I also do not have any problem with private clubs or upscale courses having a dress code either. Me I just roll with the flow. I do not wear the latest and greatest in logo shirts and stuff but I do not dress shabby either. Being a big guy it is hard to find the latest and greatest in my sizes.

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    Thats it. Im playing today at 1pm. Im wearing swim shorts and no shirt lol. Pics later.

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  • caniac6caniac6  3021Members Posts: 3,021
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    In the first post, the OP brought up comfort as a reason to wear a tee shirt to the range on a 90 degree day. I think a collared golf shirt made of wicking fabric is a lot more comfortable on a hot day than a cotton tee shirt.

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    @ian-500 said:
    I'm a metal head. I have long hair. Pretty much wear jeans and t-shirt all the time, but........I love dressing up for the course. I've worn plus fours and a tweed cap with my hair in a plait! I'm soo colourful when I play golf you can see me from a mile away, and I literally have more golf clothes than "normal" clothes. Crazy but true. Love golf and its traditions......and metal!! :)

    Heheh cheers, my man. I'm an old punk rocker - hair past my shoulders (though thanks to the old part, it's slicked back and tied up most of the time), covered in tattoos (both arms sleeved to my hands, legs mostly covered, full backpiece, left side of my neck done) and I rock my all black, proper Gary Player style for every round.

    When I played Pebble Beach several years ago, I was grouped with this awesome threesome of rad older guys, I'd guess late 50s. After a few holes, one of them comes up to me all "So, we've got a bet going about what it is you do that has you here." I reckon there aren't too many that look like me showing up there.

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    @Pmookie said:
    LPGA ladies get to wear skirts and shorts, and tops that are almost tank tops, but PGA guys have to wear pants when it’s hot! Ridiculous. Let them wear shorts, good gracious !

    This is coming. they are already letting them wear shorts during practice rounds. It will not be long that shorts will be worn in competition. It has been long allowed in the AM ranks. That being said, I am completely ok with whatever rule the course has. There is a muni right near my house that I will go to in gym shorts and flip flops to putt and chip around at. Then there is a much nicer course just up the street that I put on a collar, nice shorts, and my golf shoes to go hit balls off the grass, and use their much nicer facilities. Just have to know what is required and comply. It is not hard. Nor do I really want the dress code to change.

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    @caniac6 said:
    In the first post, the OP brought up comfort as a reason to wear a tee shirt to the range on a 90 degree day. I think a collared golf shirt made of wicking fabric is a lot more comfortable on a hot day than a cotton tee shirt.

    Not all t-shirts are made of cotton. Of the 30 or so I own, I'd say less than 1/2 are cotton. Most are thinner and more breathable than my golf shirts, which are all rather thin and breathable. I don't recall the OP saying anything about a cotton t-shirt, though it's been a while since I read the OP, so I guess I could be wrong.

    That said, I don't care one way or another. The course I play most has a basic dress code of "wear clothes". I've seen guys in white t-shirts with the sleeves ripped off and jean shorts, and I've seen guys in the newest trendy slim fitting clothes like Puma. I usually wear golf shorts and a collared golf shirt just because that's what I've always worn and it's comfortable enough for me. I honestly do not think I have ever played a round of golf in a t-shirt, nor do I think I ever will, but couldn't care less if someone else wants to. I've played in jeans when I didn't have time to go home and change after work, though to be fair, it is usually entirely too hot here to wear them on the course. What anybody else wears on the course, within the specified dress code, has absolutely zero bearing on my enjoyment of my round. Then again, I'm just a redneck from southeast Texas, so I'm probably a bit more laid back than some other folks.

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    One more thing, Nike mock neck shirts and blade collars are basically tee shirts. So Like I said, The dress code is relaxing and will continue to do so.

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    If you played a course with $100+ greens fees and no dress code, you might see well groomed people playing in neat t-shirts and shorts. Would this bother some people?

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    Sounds more like your Club's rules, plenty of places you can wear pretty much what you want to work on range, or even play golf. Judge Smails on your dress code committee? LOL

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    There are t shirts made from golf shirt material. Tiger wears the mock neck ts. Nothing wromg with that. I think shorts on the pga tour would be so unprofessional looking. Practice for them and for for amatures is fine but imo it looks very amature on professionals.

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    I dress up for golf because I respect the game and other golfers on the course. Look good for yourself and for those around you. With today's tech fabrics, you can be stylish & comfortable at the same time, all without spending a ton of money. But please, play fast and leave your portable Bluetooth speaker at home.

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    Same question could be asked of many places. Why do certain restaurants require a certain level of attire? Why do people dress up to go see a play or to an orchestra performance?

    Looking at it from 10,000 feet it seems to me that dressing up (or down for that matter) somehow impacts our level of civility and behaviour. You put on a tie it sort of changes your own expectations for your own behaviour. You up it a level. At least I do unconsciously.

    Humans are funny animals. For the most part we are ashamed of our own nakedness (that aspect of the Original Sin story I guess). You put a certain set of clothes on us and we behave differently. Cut offs and a Molly Hatchet t-shirt for a mud bog and we get pretty red. Slacks and an oxford and you get the same person acting a different way. Set him at a table with a white table cloth in a suit and he is certainly very conscious of which fork he is supposed to be using.

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    I love wearing nice golf clothing on the course, but I've never been a fan of the fact that I can't wear work-out clothes on the range at my club. Would be really nice to be able to wear an outfit that I could hit the gym in after hitting balls during the week without having to change. The problem is that without a dress code, there always seems to be some idiot that can't use common sense and would out there beating balls in nothing but a banana-hammock.

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    @BCULAW said:
    It's funny. I used to work at a very stuffy firm where dark suits and white shirts were the required attire. Any time an employee would ask about the dress code, the partners made clear that the suit was the required uniform. It promoted a certain amount of professionalism and civility that might potentially be lost in a more "casual" environment. It harkens back to the old Crash Davis line from Bull Durham. "if you dress classy, you'll look classy, and you'll be classy.". I've always assumed golf dress codes were intended to support the same notion.

    I'll second this. My first law firm was a V10 firm and "casual Friday" meant you could wear a blue dress shirt and a tie that was a color other than blue or red. I now work at a boutique where there is no dress code; some guys still dress in suits and ties daily, others where jeans with t-shirts. While everyone at my current firm went to one of only a handful of law schools and we've all previously worked for a highly-ranked BigLaw firm, the atmosphere at my current firm felt much more professional and was definitely more civil. There is something about forced uniformity (pun intended) that breeds professionalism, at least as it applies to dress codes.

    Also, while I only ever wear a suit when I'm meeting with a client or going to court, I'm all for dress codes at golf courses. I don't want to see Uncle Buck out on the course in basketball shorts and his favorite Budweiser t-shirt.

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    I definitely feel like things are getting a little more lax, even look at the mock collar golf shirts Nike is making. Most golf pants are basically track pants. Jackets are basically work out clothes.

    Only dumb thing I had come across was our local private club told me to tuck in my shirt when I wasn’t wearing a belt kind of annoying.

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    @PracticeAprl said:
    I definitely feel like things are getting a little more lax, even look at the mock collar golf shirts Nike is making. Most golf pants are basically track pants. Jackets are basically work out clothes.

    Only dumb thing I had come across was our local private club told me to tuck in my shirt when I wasn’t wearing a belt kind of annoying.

    Yep that is the one thing that annoys me also. I always dress in propper attire (with a belt) even though I play 95% of my rounds at my local muni which has no dress code. When I go home and play at my parents or uncles club you have to tuck in your shirt. Gets all bunched up and you keep having to tuck it back in.

    Makes no sense to me that if I'm in propper attire I should be uncomfortable while Im playing. Personally I don't see wearing a nice shirt untucked as looking sloppy in the least bit.

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    Nope it’s goofy I am always the best dressed sometimes I don’t like tucking my shirt. Do admit the shorts or pants with the sticky rubber band inside sure helps for keeping shirts from pulling up. As well as I wear tighter shirts so they don’t bunch ( nor do they hang low untucked)

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    @PracticeAprl said:
    I definitely feel like things are getting a little more lax, even look at the mock collar golf shirts Nike is making. Most golf pants are basically track pants. Jackets are basically work out clothes.

    Only dumb thing I had come across was our local private club told me to tuck in my shirt when I wasn’t wearing a belt kind of annoying.

    Yep that is the one thing that annoys me also. I always dress in propper attire (with a belt) even though I play 95% of my rounds at my local muni which has no dress code. When I go home and play at my parents or uncles club you have to tuck in your shirt. Gets all bunched up and you keep having to tuck it back in.

    Makes no sense to me that if I'm in propper attire I should be uncomfortable while Im playing. Personally I don't see wearing a nice shirt untucked as looking sloppy in the least bit.

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    @PracticeAprl said:
    I definitely feel like things are getting a little more lax, even look at the mock collar golf shirts Nike is making.

    Those were popular in the early 2000s as well when Tiger started wearing them, so I wouldn't say they are a sign of it getting more lax as of late.

    I remember playing a nice private club in New Jersey back in 05 (Fiddler's Elbow in Bedminster). It was a club that was corporate memberships only, and the company I was at (I was their client's site rep) had a membership. They got me several rounds while I was up there over the year. The second time I went, I was wearing a mock neck shirt (with appropriate golf shorts and tucked in as required). When I checked in, the guy at the counter said "you need a collared shirt". I tried telling him that it was a collar, and he argued that I needed a traditional collar. In my arrogance (I was 25 at the time, we all thought we knew everything), I told him "Tiger Woods wears these on the PGA Tour and they require collars, so what's the problem?". He looked at me with a blank stare and said "You're not Tiger Woods and this isnt the PGA Tour, you can put on a shirt with a collar or play somewhere else". So, I bought a shirt in the pro shop for an astronomical amount of money and played golf. Played there several more times, so apparently I didnt **** anyone off too bad thankfully.

    Out of sheer curiosity I just checked their dress code requirements on their webiste. They now have a statement "for mock collared shirts, the collar must be a minimum of 1 1/2" ". Apparently they didnt care 15 years ago, lol.

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  • FaReal87FaReal87 MA 510Members Posts: 510
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    Low end munis should not have dress codes. Have it be as accessible as possible for anyone to play.

    As for higher end public courses/private clubs, I think the biggest problem is the amount of American golf courses that put on the facade of being an upscale golf course worthy of the fees included so they feel they can levy a dress code. The amount of golf courses in the US that charge exorbitant amounts of money for, at best, better than average conditions and course layout is far too many. With those courses, it becomes a classist thing where you want to put on this image of "oh i belong to this course, look at me, look how proper everyone looks!". The US private membership structure is effed when compared to the UK/Ireland. At least in the UK/Ireland, they have some tradition at the club which can warrant a dress code.

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    @Philomathesq said:
    I'll second this. My first law firm was a V10 firm and "casual Friday" meant you could wear a blue dress shirt and a tie that was a color other than blue or red. I now work at a boutique where there is no dress code; some guys still dress in suits and ties daily, others where jeans with t-shirts. While everyone at my current firm went to one of only a handful of law schools and we've all previously worked for a highly-ranked BigLaw firm, the atmosphere at my current firm felt much more professional and was definitely more civil. There is something about forced uniformity (pun intended) that breeds professionalism, at least as it applies to dress codes.

    Also, while I only ever wear a suit when I'm meeting with a client or going to court, I'm all for dress codes at golf courses. I don't want to see Uncle Buck out on the course in basketball shorts and his favorite Budweiser t-shirt.

    Uncle Buck wearing his favorite polo shirt, stretched to it's limits by the prodigious gut hanging over his pleated kahki shorts is less an offence to your sensibilities?

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    @PuttCurseRepeat said:

    @Philomathesq said:
    I'll second this. My first law firm was a V10 firm and "casual Friday" meant you could wear a blue dress shirt and a tie that was a color other than blue or red. I now work at a boutique where there is no dress code; some guys still dress in suits and ties daily, others where jeans with t-shirts. While everyone at my current firm went to one of only a handful of law schools and we've all previously worked for a highly-ranked BigLaw firm, the atmosphere at my current firm felt much more professional and was definitely more civil. There is something about forced uniformity (pun intended) that breeds professionalism, at least as it applies to dress codes.

    Also, while I only ever wear a suit when I'm meeting with a client or going to court, I'm all for dress codes at golf courses. I don't want to see Uncle Buck out on the course in basketball shorts and his favorite Budweiser t-shirt.

    Uncle Buck wearing his favorite polo shirt, stretched to it's limits by the prodigious gut hanging over his pleated kahki shorts is less an offence to your sensibilities?

    I'll say this... I'd rather see your version of Uncle Buck than mine.

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    @monkeyboy said:
    Some days I just go to the range to hit some balls or chip and putt. Can be a pain to get 'dressed up' in the 90 degrees heat and humidity sometimes when I am just trying to get out of the house for a quick hour or so. Would be awesome if I could wear a T-shirt at least. My club is pretty low brow, yet still have to wear collared ****, etc.
    What other sports does one get 'dressed up' to play where the clothes is not tied to functionality?
    Swimming = you wear a bathing suit optimized for the task
    Baseball / football / Basketball = uniforms that match the sports needs
    Golf = all you need is to be as comfortable as possible and wear non restrictive clothes, yet a collar and $70 shorts/pants are required
    I don't see it as a 'respect thing' - respect for what?
    thoughts?

    The sport of life?

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    Dress for success boys! Only way to do it!

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    Im not showing up to a football game with a tutu on thats all i know... if you catch my drift?

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    Maybe you should go play frisbee golf instead.

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    For public - and especially municipal courses - I agree.

    But in a traditional country club? We have to wear coat and tie in the clubhouse and whites on the tennis courts; why should golf exist without a dress code?

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