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New Odyssey Stroke Lab Ten putters - Sept 2019

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  • brew4eaglebrew4eagle VAMembers Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @NailedIt said:

    @brew4eagle said:
    Hate all of these weight way back mallets. Ugly with no feel for speed at all. Just make a plain anser shape with a WH insert at $150 price point. Will sell a ton like they did with the WHPs.

    They do, it’s called white hot pro 2.0 in black. They sell for $110 and nobody is touching them in the retail stores.

    Because the 2.0s are as generic as can be. I'm asking for a new, clean version.

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  • Jdavenp3Jdavenp3 Members Posts: 850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am a Spider X fanboy through and through. Love that putter. These look pretty good- I have gamed multiple versions of the Spider. I think its something for brand loyalists and those on the fence about the head shape to enter into the fray. Nothing wrong with copying, everyone does it all the time. I doubt the Spider X leaves anytime soon but if it does I will definitely give this a go.

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  • nova6868nova6868 Members Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 12, 2019 2:32am #94


    This particular head is very sharp and clean looking at address. Despite the old adage of "putters without alignment lines don't sell at retail" I hope they bring something like this to retail.

    Everyone mentions MOI when talking about this design but the original Spider Tour wasn't super high MOI. It was about 4900, Anser putters are in the 4300 range. I suspect part of the success of the original Jason Day Spider was that it didn't have any alignment lines. In fact I recall him saying he preferred that look so he could just focus on speed and rolling the ball. The head frames the ball very well and between the face and the right angles near the face I question how much you really need the alignment line. Surely some people just putt better once they're not distracted by the alignment line.

  • Zach HeusserZach Heusser Marshals Posts: 5,181 mod

    Well I’m pretty Sean designed the Spider when he was taylormade ...

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  • jgolf215jgolf215 JT Members Posts: 318 ✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 12, 2019 3:54am #96

    @J13 said:

    @bladehunter said:
    I love it ! Serves TM right for the high toe wedge.

    haha exactly and also lets not forget Scotty and TM and every other putter company stealing the #7 and countless other Odyssey designs. This looks like an improved version of the Spider. Lower COG and higher MOI than TM's.

    What J said! I was just about to comment on this verbatim! Everyone has tried to copy the #7 at some point. I remember Adam Scott had a White Ice # 7 in the bag after the "anchor" ban and Scotty made a bunch of different copies for him to try. I just recently picked up an Odyssey Jailbird Mini S Red to try a mallet without a double bend shaft. Had I known they were going to do this....... Oh well, I'm liking the Mini and I picked it up for much cheaper than this one will be. Besisdes, I'm not a fan of that Stroke Lab shaft.

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  • Scotty1140Scotty1140 Members Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    An ugly copy of another ugly putter.

    Everyone copies. My Byron's, my Cameron's, my Evnroll are all copies of someone else's original design. While I'll poke fun of some of the blatant copying that goes on, it doesn't really bother me. I mean, as consumers we're kind of the ones that benefit. Imagine if you only had the original design of everything to choose from. That would be killer. I doubt this forum would be around in the form it is.

  • Trav1989Trav1989 Members Posts: 43 ✭✭

    I wonder if there will be a Toulon version

  • bbspeerbbspeer Members Posts: 21 ✭✭

    Callaway: Can I copy your homework?
    Taylormade: Yeah, just change it up a bit so no one notices.

  • lochlloydprolochlloydpro Rock Chalk Jayhawk Members Posts: 32 ✭✭

    @bbspeer said:
    Callaway: Can I copy your homework?
    Taylormade: Yeah, just change it up a bit so no one notices.

    More like:
    Taylormade: turns in project with name at the top
    Callaway: Sees TM turn in project with name at the top, takes project erases their name and puts Callaway on it and turns it in :D

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  • jkinger89jkinger89 Members Posts: 2

    Hoping they have the two line available in LH. Anyone know when these are set to release?

  • TitletownTitletown Members Posts: 226 ✭✭✭

    @jonn443 said:
    This is the most blatant rip off Taylormade I have EVER witnessed.

    Odyssey/Callaway execs should be completely disgusted with the R&D Dept and should FIRE the whole Dept. They are absolutely useless. This is not a copy of a simple anser design , this is straight thievery.

    that escalated quickly

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  • hoosierfan0035hoosierfan0035 Members Posts: 6 ✭✭

    @jonn443 said:
    This is the most blatant rip off Taylormade I have EVER witnessed.

    Odyssey/Callaway execs should be completely disgusted with the R&D Dept and should FIRE the whole Dept. They are absolutely useless. This is not a copy of a simple anser design , this is straight thievery.

    I know this is a trolling post, but I’d like to play along as well. Let’s talk about some of the Taylormade Ardmore putters that ripped off the Odyssey V-Line Fang design. Also, let’s talk about the Taylormade Pix ball that was a blatant rip off the Callaway Truvis.

    This is the golf industry. It happens.

  • WBurgess31WBurgess31 Members Posts: 20 ✭✭

    Do we know when these will be available in stores? I have been thinking about getting a Spider X but want to compare the 2 before i buy. Im hoping these are cheaper than the Spiders too.

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  • b_teetb_teet Denver, COMembers Posts: 55 ✭✭

    Wow! Like the thick white line alignment option

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  • Lenny2Lenny2 Members Posts: 47 ✭✭

    I can’t wait to try them, not a Sacks Parente but looks good.

  • ebrasmus21ebrasmus21 Serial Shanker CAMembers Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Would have been amazing if they named it the Callaway Spider

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  • Go_Blue!Go_Blue! HAIL! Members Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    As a Spider (DJ) player for the last 2 years, and one who loves the Spider, I will definitely give these a try. Love the look of these compared to some of the other companies similar designs. The lower weight has me intrigued.

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  • 18th Legion18th Legion Members Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I understand everyone has copies/versions of the Anser, Camerons, Odyssey #9, so on and so on... however, I just get so tired of the lack of ethics in business overall. As important as Ethics are to the game of golf, I'd like to see it practised in all aspects of the industry. Nearly every equipment company is guilty of similar acts, but IMO the folks who do this and allow this are not people I would want to play golf with or work with. Simply put, they are not trustworthy and I wish they were not in this industry.

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  • tdk8180tdk8180 Members Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    This is revenge for other companies copying the 9 and the 7 for years

  • PapaJohickPapaJohick ShortKnocker Bombs Charleston, SCMembers Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonn443 said:
    This is the most blatant rip off Taylormade I have EVER witnessed.

    Odyssey/Callaway execs should be completely disgusted with the R&D Dept and should FIRE the whole Dept. They are absolutely useless. This is not a copy of a simple anser design , this is straight thievery.

    hahaha ok then...... just calm down.

    Forever Changing at this point.......

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  • Green in RegGreen in Reg Members Posts: 492 ✭✭✭✭

    RELEASE DATE???

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  • iNeedMoreGolfiNeedMoreGolf RiMembers Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Everyone copys. The m2 has a driver channel just like in nikes victory red drivers. They all copy. Its just who can so it better.

  • MedsonMedson Members Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn’t IP theft a big deal? I’m genuinely curious about all these copying in golf equipment industry.

  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,630 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Medson said:
    Isn’t IP theft a big deal? I’m genuinely curious about all these copying in golf equipment industry.

    It's only good for so long and the Spider has been around for YEARS. My guess is the design is almost 15 years old.

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  • BlkNGldBlkNGld Members Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Medson said:
    Isn’t IP theft a big deal? I’m genuinely curious about all these copying in golf equipment industry.

    Depends on the amount of time, and to what extent a company goes to try to protect it.

    Something as simple as a shape is tough to protect as intellectual property. The only way it works is if there is a specific technical innovation that's being protected. And companies frequently cross license their patent portfolio.

    Now there can be trademark implications if one company is putting markings on its product to specifically suggest it's someone else's product, but I don't think that is going on here just as none of the Anser clones are trying to convince anyone that their version is a Ping product.

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