B.A.D.'s custom LAGP Wedge shaft ("rebar") - Sept 2019

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  • BearQBearQ Members  3667WRX Points: 855Posts: 3,667 Titanium Tees
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    When wanting to flight your wedges down gets out of control...

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    It would be awesome if we could turn back time to when pics loaded on this site. Maybe the next update???

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    On -, @BearQ said:

    When wanting to flight your wedges down gets out of control...

    haha. I wonder what the CPM is on that shaft. The more he tinkers, the more I see that it is a compensation for a bag set up that is very limiting. The single length thing I think works well for full swings when you can just swing away. When you want to hit touch, or improvised shots, it hampers that ability.

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    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    On -, @BearQ said:

    When wanting to flight your wedges down gets out of control...

    haha. I wonder what the CPM is on that shaft. The more he tinkers, the more I see that it is a compensation for a bag set up that is very limiting. The single length thing I think works well for full swings when you can just swing away. When you want to hit touch, or improvised shots, it hampers that ability.

    372cpm

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    On -, @300_yard_drives said:

    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    On -, @BearQ said:

    When wanting to flight your wedges down gets out of control...

    haha. I wonder what the CPM is on that shaft. The more he tinkers, the more I see that it is a compensation for a bag set up that is very limiting. The single length thing I think works well for full swings when you can just swing away. When you want to hit touch, or improvised shots, it hampers that ability.

    372cpm

    HAHAHAHA.. I see it know. Jeez, thats embarrassing.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • AdamStoutjesdykAdamStoutjesdyk Venice FLMembers  163WRX Points: 118Handicap: +3.1Posts: 163 Fairways
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    I've always been a massive fan of Matrix Ozik shafts and their graphics, it sucks now that LAGP has taken over that they are all painted the same, it kinda kills the excitement over and over when i see a new prototype is released being the fangirl of their products that I am

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10339WRX Points: 3,543Handicap: 8Posts: 10,339 ClubWRX
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    Well composite iron and wedges shafts are the future. I just switched to composite iron shafts and it is so far so good. Any of these shaft companies can build way better composite shafts than iron could ever dream of.

    I think stigma and cost to the consumer is really the only thing to hold it back at this point. For the tour guys, with cost not being an issue I don't know why more do not have full sets of composite iron shafts.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    Well composite iron and wedges shafts are the future. I just switched to composite iron shafts and it is so far so good. Any of these shaft companies can build way better composite shafts than iron could ever dream of.

    I think stigma and cost to the consumer is really the only thing to hold it back at this point. For the tour guys, with cost not being an issue I don't know why more do not have full sets of composite iron shafts.

    It is same reason we see so many players using DG X100 over other steel shafts: Familiarity. It is what they grew up with - what they are used to.

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    On -, @Golfingfanatic said:

    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    Well composite iron and wedges shafts are the future. I just switched to composite iron shafts and it is so far so good. Any of these shaft companies can build way better composite shafts than iron could ever dream of.

    I think stigma and cost to the consumer is really the only thing to hold it back at this point. For the tour guys, with cost not being an issue I don't know why more do not have full sets of composite iron shafts.

    It is same reason we see so many players using DG X100 over other steel shafts: Familiarity. It is what they grew up with - what they are used to.

    Truth

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    Is his wedge head(s) super heavy? That must feel literally like a piece of steel.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10339WRX Points: 3,543Handicap: 8Posts: 10,339 ClubWRX
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    On -, @scarp2 said:

    On -, @Golfingfanatic said:

    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    Well composite iron and wedges shafts are the future. I just switched to composite iron shafts and it is so far so good. Any of these shaft companies can build way better composite shafts than iron could ever dream of.

    I think stigma and cost to the consumer is really the only thing to hold it back at this point. For the tour guys, with cost not being an issue I don't know why more do not have full sets of composite iron shafts.

    It is same reason we see so many players using DG X100 over other steel shafts: Familiarity. It is what they grew up with - what they are used to.

    Truth

    I understand that, but I am simply saying that with millions on the line, wouldn't you want the most consistent product available?? I mean, its worth at least trying. As I said, I think a switch has potential. Cost to the consumer is really the only barrier.

    The composite shafts I play are stiffer than any steel shaft out there, so it is not like you cannot get something that would fit even the hardest swinger out there.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    The amount if tinkering he has to do just to get single length to barely work is incredible. Its totally absurd to think amateurs can benefit from the technology.

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    On -, @Wdwfreak said:

    The amount if tinkering he has to do just to get single length to barely work is incredible. Its totally absurd to think amateurs can benefit from the technology.

    I wouldnt say it "barely" works. I mean he is ranked number 11 in the world. It works well, for him. But I get, and agree with the point I think you are trying to make. It seems that the extra length in the wedges creates unique problems others do not have to deal with.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    On -, @Wdwfreak said:

    The amount if tinkering he has to do just to get single length to barely work is incredible. Its totally absurd to think amateurs can benefit from the technology.

    I wouldnt say it "barely" works. I mean he is ranked number 11 in the world. It works well, for him. But I get, and agree with the point I think you are trying to make. It seems that the extra length in the wedges creates unique problems others do not have to deal with.

    I should restate what I was trying to say, seeing the tinkering and changes he has to make to make it work for him makes it really hard for any amateur with limited access to what he has think they can grab it off the shelf and make it work like he does.

    However, credit to him for owning it and making it his own.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10339WRX Points: 3,543Handicap: 8Posts: 10,339 ClubWRX
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    On -, @Wdwfreak said:

    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    On -, @Wdwfreak said:

    The amount if tinkering he has to do just to get single length to barely work is incredible. Its totally absurd to think amateurs can benefit from the technology.

    I wouldnt say it "barely" works. I mean he is ranked number 11 in the world. It works well, for him. But I get, and agree with the point I think you are trying to make. It seems that the extra length in the wedges creates unique problems others do not have to deal with.

    I should restate what I was trying to say, seeing the tinkering and changes he has to make to make it work for him makes it really hard for any amateur with limited access to what he has think they can grab it off the shelf and make it work like he does.

    However, credit to him for owning it and making it his own.

    I agree 100% with this clarified statement. haha. As a fitter, I think the single length thing is incredibly limiting and not a great way to play the game. The theory of it is sound and makes sense. the problems arise at the top and bottom of the bag. 4 iron goes to low, PW goes to high etc.

    But back to what this thread is about. I think that is a pretty cool shaft. I have converted to graphite iron shafts, and I am now looking into wedge shafts. I find it interesting that this shaft is soo extremely stiff and is for a wedge, when the majority of players play softer wedges shafts in comparison to the rest of their set.

    I know this is due to his wedge being extremely long and trying to get the ball to stay down.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • tungstenplugtungstenplug Washington, D.C.Members  376WRX Points: 429Posts: 376 Greens
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    Less deflection equals more control? Assuming he can feel where the face is with how stout those are

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    dup

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    On -, @QuigleyDU said:

    Well composite iron and wedges shafts are the future. I just switched to composite iron shafts and it is so far so good. Any of these shaft companies can build way better composite shafts than iron could ever dream of.

    I think stigma and cost to the consumer is really the only thing to hold it back at this point. For the tour guys, with cost not being an issue I don't know why more do not have full sets of composite iron shafts.

    Steel is on the way out the door, I give it 10 yrs. so much more can be done with composite. They are just getting started.

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    On -, @AdamStoutjesdyk said:

    I've always been a massive fan of Matrix Ozik shafts and their graphics, it sucks now that LAGP has taken over that they are all painted the same, it kinda kills the excitement over and over when i see a new prototype is released being the fangirl of their products that I am

    Yeah nothing like when they released the tphd and ozik a decade ago or more. It was next level back then. I think we can go on there website and customize colors.

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    Serious question, is it even possible to get a KBS/PX/TT shaft, in normal playing length, to 372 CPMs? That has to be like True Temper X7s tipped 3 inches or something nuts.

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    anyone else think the last quote in the article makes no sense? when is says if this works, he'll work into the iron shafts by the end of the season. First of all, what does if it works mean? It wont do anything any other wedge shaft does, lets be real. Second, even if it does "work" according to his definition of what that is, why waste a whole season getting them into the irons, shouldn't they be in the irons the next day?? Luckily BD is so talented he can play world class golf in spite of all these weird equipment choices.

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    On -, @gpmoney said:

    anyone else think the last quote in the article makes no sense? when is says if this works, he'll work into the iron shafts by the end of the season. First of all, what does if it works mean? It wont do anything any other wedge shaft does, lets be real. Second, even if it does "work" according to his definition of what that is, why waste a whole season getting them into the irons, shouldn't they be in the irons the next day?? Luckily BD is so talented he can play world class golf in spite of all these weird equipment choices.

    what article?

    but, composite shafts for Bryson make the most sense. I would think with single length and needing specific flex and flex points to really make the set perform composite shafts is really the only option. You can tune each shaft exactly how you need. steel is such a dirty and unworkable product.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    Hogan used X flex iron shafts tipped 2"....... his wedge was probably stiffer then the 372cpm

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    What's the advantage? A most consistent shaft relative to steel?

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    On -, @rybo said:

    Hogan used X flex iron shafts tipped 2"....... his wedge was probably stiffer then the 372cpm

    Hard to say what an X felt like back then. I bet it was much less stiff than you think. Jack said that for the majority of his championship career he played with shafts that would now be considered regular flex.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    What’s the weight on these?

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    I think he was tongue in cheek in that post 😉

    Seriously I don't know why BAD needs super stiff single length wedge shafts. If he would just stick to stuff and work on his game he might win even more than he has. Seems like he's just making an already hard game unneccesarrily complicated.

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    Anyone know the weight?

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