KBS - TD Driver / Wood Shafts - "Category 4 & 5" - Sept 2019

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  • TitletownTitletown  271Members Posts: 271
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    looking forward to hearing more about these

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    Driver: EFSZ Triple Diamond (9°) / Tour AD DI
    Fairway: Rogue SZ Tour Issue (16.5°) / Tour AD DI
    Hybrid: Apex 19 (20°) / Tour AD DI
    Irons: Apex Pro 19 (4i-9i) / KBS $-Taper
    Wedges: Mack Daddy 4 (46°, 50°, 54°, 58°) / KBS $-Taper
    Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Ten
    Ball: Chrome Soft X Triple Track

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  • jgolf215jgolf215 JT  320Members Posts: 320
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    Oh wow! I've been playing KBS Tour V's in my irons and Apex UT. And I just put the Hybrid Proto in my Apex UT and love it. Can't wait to hear the story on these.

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    Callaway Rogue 9* (N/S) Fubuki J 50
    Callaway Rogue 15* 3wd Fubuki Ax f65
    Callaway XR16 19* 5wd Fubuki Ax f75 
    Callaway Steelhead XR 20.5* Fubuki Ax f75
    Callaway Apex 20* & 23* KuroKage Black 80HY
    Callaway Apex UT 24* KBS Tour Prototype Hybrid 85
    Callaway XR Pro 5-9 KBS Tour V
    Callaway MD3 46*/8* & 50/10* 
    Callaway MD Forged 54*/10* & 58*/08* 
    Odyssey WHP #7 w SS Flatso Traxion 1.0 or
    Odyssey ProType #2 Nippon XXIP B2 w Iomic Absolute X
    Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft
    Glove: UA Strikeskin Tour
    Shoe: UA

    Steelhead XR 20.5* or XR16 19*/5 wood alternates w Apex 20* hybrid.
    Apex 23* alternates with Apex UT 24*

  • rbilramzrbilramz  804ClubWRX Posts: 804
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    Visually interesting...

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  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011  3619ClubWRX Posts: 3,619
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    It’s actually the “Tour Driven” driver shaft. category is the flex rating. 4 is X and 5 is TX. Mid launch, mid/low spin.

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    Epic Flash SZ 9.5* Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65X
    Epic Flash 15.0* Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 75X
    Apex '19 20* Fujikura Atmos HB TS Blue 8X
    X-Forged UT 21* KBS C-Taper Lite X
    Apex CF19 Combo #5-P KBS $-Taper 120
    MD4 Raw 50-S/56-X/60-S KBS 610 120
    Odyssey MXM-V #7 "Tank" @ 38"
    Snell MTB-X / Chrome Soft X Triple Track
  • SUPERGSUPERG  236Members Posts: 236
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    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

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    Taylormade M5 - 10.5* - Mitsubishi Diamana DF 70 TX
    Taylormade Jetspeed (TI) - 16* - Aldila Tour Green 95 TX
    Mizuno MP18 MMC Fli Hi 19* - Fujikura Pro 115 TX
    Mizuno MP18 SC - 4-PW - KBS C Taper 130X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 - 50* 54* 60* - DG S400
    Odyssey EXO 7

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  • the bishopthe bishop  3541Members Posts: 3,541
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    @SUPERG said:
    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

    Aesthetics can be debated. Probably not a look for everybody but red/black very much consistent with other KBS products. And not everybody needs or wants low/low. Some do for sure. Some want to believe they do and are wrong though.

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    W/S Cortex 10.5* 
    Cally X-Hot 15* 
    W/S C300 20*/23*
    W/S FG Tour Forged 5-P
    W/S PMP RAW 52/56/60
    W/S Infinite Windy City
  • justasgoodjustasgood Without Tempo, you are just a hacker.  2909Members Posts: 2,909
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    @SUPERG said:
    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

    Look Cheap? How does graphics and paint relate to anything? Don't like the scheme? Cool everyone has different tastes. But to label em "Cheap" seems a stretch.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU  8383Members Posts: 8,383
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    @justasgood said:

    @SUPERG said:
    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

    Look Cheap? How does graphics and paint relate to anything? Don't like the scheme? Cool everyone has different tastes. But to label em "Cheap" seems a stretch.

    considering how little of the shaft is actually visible, I don't know how we can come to that conclusion. I mean the tensei shafts are plain black with a simple band towards the top. Is that cheap? to me, this looks like from we can see to be a black shaft, with a red band somewhere... Seems simple, but that does not mean cheap.

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    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 9*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Mizuno MP-18 MB Aldila RIP SLT Tour 115X Flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 52, 58, 64
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • sizzlesizzlesizzlesizzle California 1Members Posts: 1
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    Art/design is subjective. Some will love it, some will hate it. At the end of the day, it's all about the performance and their graphite offerings to date have been great. Have to imagine they'll start with a mid/mid and then work around it. Just like they did with the KBS Tour steel shaft.

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  • ObiwanForAllObiwanForAll  82Members Posts: 82
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    Could be wrong but I heard rumors these may be following a flex pattern similar to Accra TZ shafts. Wouldn’t be surprised to see extremely low torque. If they can do that while producing a smooth KBS feel.....oh boy.

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    Driver - TM M5 - Fujikura Ventus 6X
    3-Wood - TM M5 - UST Lin-Q Purple 75X
    2 Iron - TM GAPR Pro - KBS Prototype Tour 85X
    4-AW - TM P790 - KBS $-Taper 125 S+ 
    Wedges - (54/58) TM MG2 Black - KBS 610 125 X
    Putter - TM Spider X - Breakthrough Stability Shaft  
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  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Camerons & Cobras One fairway over 2406Members Posts: 2,406
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    Sounds like a good first release into this crazy competitive "category". Looking forward to hearing more about them, I have always loved their original KBS Tour line of iron shafts.

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  • ASN21ASN21 #TeamTaylorMade Bay Area 297Members Posts: 297
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    Have slowly started to add more KBS in the bag. Looking forward to hearing more on these. Is this their first driver shaft?

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    TaylorMade M6 10.5 - Aldila Rogue Black
    TaylorMade M6 3 Wood - Aldila Rogue Silver
    TaylorMade GAPR HI 3 & 4 - KBS Hybrid
    TaylorMade P790 5-AW - Project X LZ
    TaylorMade Milled Grind HI-TOE 56 & 60 - KBS HI-REV 2.0
    TaylorMade My Spider X
    TaylorMade TP5/X

  • elwhippyelwhippy  3294Members Posts: 3,294
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    The low torque and worm burning flight may be fine for WRX bomb squad but the rest of us will hope for KBS's smooth feel and playability.

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  • tripleHtripleH McGregor  100ClubWRX Posts: 100
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    Back in the day everyone had a Diamana Blueboard glued in - mid/mid. That was the rage then and still is for those who love low lofted heads so you blend it with a mid/mid for piercing bombs. If it’s as smooth as the Iron shaft $ Taper or Tour Taper I am in and the colors will match the rest of my black and red bag. Nothing but smoothness from KBS - oh and the prototype graphite hybrid shaft that’s super smooth too. Offerings in TX now that’s even smoother.

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  • tripleHtripleH McGregor  100ClubWRX Posts: 100
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    Cool how they labeled the flex to a category hurricane - wondering if that relates to ball speed! 😂

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  • jrshelbyjrshelby  1255Members Posts: 1,255
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    I think the categories will line up as follows. Pure speculation though,

    1=R
    2=R+
    3=S
    4=S+
    5=X

    Again I have no factual basis just speculation!

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  • makavelimakaveli  393Members Posts: 393
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    @the bishop said:
    Aesthetics can be debated. Probably not a look for everybody but red/black very much consistent with other KBS products. And not everybody needs or wants low/low. Some do for sure. Some want to believe they do and are wrong though.

    You forgot to put a link to the BST, lol.

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  • makavelimakaveli  393Members Posts: 393
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    @tripleH said:
    Back in the day everyone had a Diamana Blueboard glued in - mid/mid. That was the rage then and still is for those who love low lofted heads so you blend it with a mid/mid for piercing bombs. If it’s as smooth as the Iron shaft $ Taper or Tour Taper I am in and the colors will match the rest of my black and red bag. Nothing but smoothness from KBS - oh and the prototype graphite hybrid shaft that’s super smooth too. Offerings in TX now that’s even smoother.

    I still have the original BB in my driver and 3w (both PING G20) and it is smooth indeed. Had a fitting last week and can’t find a longer, better feeling combo. As far as looks go it’s fine. Whatever sends the ball the farthest down the fairway is the best looking IMO.

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  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder  2007Members Posts: 2,007
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    @jrshelby said:
    I think the categories will line up as follows. Pure speculation though,

    1=R
    2=R+
    3=S
    4=S+
    5=X

    Again I have no factual basis just speculation!

    Flexes will be:
    1=A
    2=R
    3=S
    4=X
    5=TX

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  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX  3530Members Posts: 3,530
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    $325?

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  • kobes31kobes31 EFF  802Members Posts: 802
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    Disappointed KBS has no info on these at all when the front page article directs you to their site to begin with. Seems like something I'd like to try though KBS always puts out solid gear!

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  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder  2007Members Posts: 2,007
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    @SubaruWRX said:
    $325?

    Yep

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  • mrlongballmrlongball  754Members Posts: 754
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    From: https://www.golfworks.com/kbs-td-matte-black-graphite-wood-shafts/p/fs0067/

    Overview
    The KBS TD Graphite line of shafts is designed to compliment the already proven performance driven line of KBS shafts. The KBS TD Graphite is a lighter and stiffer Driver/Wood shaft that has characteristics designed to provide the original KBS feel.

    Features:

    Higher Torsional Stiffness Design (lower torque) making the KBS TD a lighter/stiffer graphite shaft
    Signature Innovative KBS Feel and Performance
    Designed for performance, optimizing spin rate and launch for more distance and more consistent, tighter ball flights
    Category / Flex correlation

    Category 1 - A Flex
    Category 2 - R Flex
    Category 3 - S Flex
    Category 4 - X Flex
    Category 5 - TX Flex
    Trimming Instructions

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