KBS - TD Driver / Wood Shafts - "Category 4 & 5" - Sept 2019

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  • TitletownTitletown Members  430WRX Points: 251Posts: 430 Greens
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    looking forward to hearing more about these

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  • jgolf215jgolf215 JT Members  328WRX Points: 89Posts: 328 Greens
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    Oh wow! I've been playing KBS Tour V's in my irons and Apex UT. And I just put the Hybrid Proto in my Apex UT and love it. Can't wait to hear the story on these.

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  • rbilramzrbilramz ClubWRX  841WRX Points: 120Posts: 841 ClubWRX
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    Visually interesting...

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  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011 ClubWRX  3622WRX Points: 234Posts: 3,622 ClubWRX
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    It’s actually the “Tour Driven” driver shaft. category is the flex rating. 4 is X and 5 is TX. Mid launch, mid/low spin.

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  • SUPERGSUPERG Members  486WRX Points: 276Posts: 486 Greens
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    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

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  • the bishopthe bishop Members  3927WRX Points: 941Posts: 3,927 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @SUPERG said:

    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

    Aesthetics can be debated. Probably not a look for everybody but red/black very much consistent with other KBS products. And not everybody needs or wants low/low. Some do for sure. Some want to believe they do and are wrong though.

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  • justasgoodjustasgood Without Tempo, you are just a hacker. Members  3154WRX Points: 743Handicap: I.Q.Posts: 3,154 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @SUPERG said:

    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

    Look Cheap? How does graphics and paint relate to anything? Don't like the scheme? Cool everyone has different tastes. But to label em "Cheap" seems a stretch.

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    On -, @justasgood said:

    On -, @SUPERG said:

    I love KBS, but these look cheap. I'd prefer KBS stay in their lane( C and $ Taper are fantastic) . In a world where Low/Low sells, they release Mid/Mid and with a boring paint job to boot.

    Look Cheap? How does graphics and paint relate to anything? Don't like the scheme? Cool everyone has different tastes. But to label em "Cheap" seems a stretch.

    considering how little of the shaft is actually visible, I don't know how we can come to that conclusion. I mean the tensei shafts are plain black with a simple band towards the top. Is that cheap? to me, this looks like from we can see to be a black shaft, with a red band somewhere... Seems simple, but that does not mean cheap.

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  • sizzlesizzlesizzlesizzle CaliforniaMembers  3WRX Points: 11Handicap: 3Posts: 3 Starters
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    Art/design is subjective. Some will love it, some will hate it. At the end of the day, it's all about the performance and their graphite offerings to date have been great. Have to imagine they'll start with a mid/mid and then work around it. Just like they did with the KBS Tour steel shaft.

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  • ObiwanForAllObiwanForAll Members  88WRX Points: 57Handicap: 7.4Posts: 88 Fairways
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    Could be wrong but I heard rumors these may be following a flex pattern similar to Accra TZ shafts. Wouldn’t be surprised to see extremely low torque. If they can do that while producing a smooth KBS feel.....oh boy.

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    Driver - TM M5 - Fujikura Ventus 6X
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  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Camerons & Cobras One fairway overMembers  2460WRX Points: 371Handicap: 9ishPosts: 2,460 Platinum Tees
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    Sounds like a good first release into this crazy competitive "category". Looking forward to hearing more about them, I have always loved their original KBS Tour line of iron shafts.

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  • ASN21ASN21 G.O.A.T. Bay AreaMembers  505WRX Points: 384Posts: 505 Golden Tee
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    Have slowly started to add more KBS in the bag. Looking forward to hearing more on these. Is this their first driver shaft?

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  • elwhippyelwhippy Members  3455WRX Points: 352Posts: 3,455 Titanium Tees
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    The low torque and worm burning flight may be fine for WRX bomb squad but the rest of us will hope for KBS's smooth feel and playability.

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  • tripleHtripleH McGregor ClubWRX  110WRX Points: 63Posts: 110 ClubWRX
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    Back in the day everyone had a Diamana Blueboard glued in - mid/mid. That was the rage then and still is for those who love low lofted heads so you blend it with a mid/mid for piercing bombs. If it’s as smooth as the Iron shaft $ Taper or Tour Taper I am in and the colors will match the rest of my black and red bag. Nothing but smoothness from KBS - oh and the prototype graphite hybrid shaft that’s super smooth too. Offerings in TX now that’s even smoother.

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  • tripleHtripleH McGregor ClubWRX  110WRX Points: 63Posts: 110 ClubWRX
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    Cool how they labeled the flex to a category hurricane - wondering if that relates to ball speed! 😂

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  • jrshelbyjrshelby Members  1517WRX Points: 299Posts: 1,517 Platinum Tees
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    I think the categories will line up as follows. Pure speculation though,

    1=R
    2=R+
    3=S
    4=S+
    5=X

    Again I have no factual basis just speculation!

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    On -, @the bishop said:

    Aesthetics can be debated. Probably not a look for everybody but red/black very much consistent with other KBS products. And not everybody needs or wants low/low. Some do for sure. Some want to believe they do and are wrong though.

    You forgot to put a link to the BST, lol.

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  • makavelimakaveli Members  474WRX Points: 75Posts: 474 Greens
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    On -, @tripleH said:

    Back in the day everyone had a Diamana Blueboard glued in - mid/mid. That was the rage then and still is for those who love low lofted heads so you blend it with a mid/mid for piercing bombs. If it’s as smooth as the Iron shaft $ Taper or Tour Taper I am in and the colors will match the rest of my black and red bag. Nothing but smoothness from KBS - oh and the prototype graphite hybrid shaft that’s super smooth too. Offerings in TX now that’s even smoother.

    I still have the original BB in my driver and 3w (both PING G20) and it is smooth indeed. Had a fitting last week and can’t find a longer, better feeling combo. As far as looks go it’s fine. Whatever sends the ball the farthest down the fairway is the best looking IMO.

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  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder Members  2052WRX Points: 164Posts: 2,052 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @jrshelby said:

    I think the categories will line up as follows. Pure speculation though,

    1=R
    2=R+
    3=S
    4=S+
    5=X

    Again I have no factual basis just speculation!

    Flexes will be:
    1=A
    2=R
    3=S
    4=X
    5=TX

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  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Members  4002WRX Points: 737Posts: 4,002 Titanium Tees
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    $325?

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  • kobes31kobes31 EFF Members  807WRX Points: 91Posts: 807 Golden Tee
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    Disappointed KBS has no info on these at all when the front page article directs you to their site to begin with. Seems like something I'd like to try though KBS always puts out solid gear!

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  • trhodetrhode Fitter / Builder Members  2052WRX Points: 164Posts: 2,052 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @SubaruWRX said:

    $325?

    Yep

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    From: https://www.golfworks.com/kbs-td-matte-black-graphite-wood-shafts/p/fs0067/

    Overview
    The KBS TD Graphite line of shafts is designed to compliment the already proven performance driven line of KBS shafts. The KBS TD Graphite is a lighter and stiffer Driver/Wood shaft that has characteristics designed to provide the original KBS feel.

    Features:

    Higher Torsional Stiffness Design (lower torque) making the KBS TD a lighter/stiffer graphite shaft
    Signature Innovative KBS Feel and Performance
    Designed for performance, optimizing spin rate and launch for more distance and more consistent, tighter ball flights
    Category / Flex correlation

    Category 1 - A Flex
    Category 2 - R Flex
    Category 3 - S Flex
    Category 4 - X Flex
    Category 5 - TX Flex
    Trimming Instructions

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