Wedge search for firm/hardpan turf (Texas, etc)

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What type of wedges are more suited to play on Texas hardpan? Never really experimented with bounces and grinds before and it's a tad overwhelming with all the options out there.

I like to think that I'm more on the shallow side and like to nip it. Prefer partial shots. I like to open the face except when the leading edge is exposed and sitting too high off the ground.

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  • SUPERGSUPERG Members  465WRX Points: 266Posts: 465 Greens
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    Vokey SM7 L grind, been using L grind for years now here in central Tx. Shallow chipper as well.

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    Callaway Epic Flash 13.5* - Tensei Pro White 80 TX

    Callaway X Forged UT 21* - KBS $ Taper 130X

    Mizuno MP18 SC 4-PW - KBS C Taper 130X

    Titleist Vokey SM7 - DG S400

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  • CelebrosCelebros Vandalia, OHMembers  346WRX Points: 235Handicap: 1.5Posts: 346 Greens
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    I love my Cobra wedges in their WideLow grind off of hard turf.

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    Cobra King F8+ (4-5, 16.5*)
    Cobra King Utility (3, 20.5*)
    Cobra King Forged Tour (4-GW)
    Cobra King WideLow (56*)
    Cobra King Pūr WideLow (60*)
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    PING Glide with TS sole.

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    Cobra King F7 10.5° HZRDUS Yellow 63 6.0 44"                                         PING G400 Max 10.5° ATTAS 4U 6TS 44" 
    Taylormade M4 3HL  Hzrdus Red 75 6.0 42.5"                                           PING G25 3 Wood PWR Stiff
    Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 20° Hybrid Diamana D+ 90 Stiff                          PING G25 5 Wood Steelfiber ss85 Stiff
    Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 23° Hybrid KBS Hybrid 110 X                              PING G25 23°, 27°, and 31° Hybrids KBS Tour V 110                                                         
    Titleist 915H 27° KBS Hybrid 110 X                                                           PING G25 7-UW KBS Tour V 120
    Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 6-GW KBS Tour V 125 SS 2X                               PING Glide 54 SS KBS 610 125 S+
    Cobra Trusty Rusty 55° KBS Tour V 125                                                    PING Glide 58 TS KBS 610 125 S+
    Callaway PM Grind 60° KBS Hi-Rev 125                                                    PING Sigma G Tyne H
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  • jah7838jah7838 Members  1259WRX Points: 215Posts: 1,259 Platinum Tees
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    What part of Texas? I’ve lived in DFW and Houston, and have done fine with my 58* having around 12* of bounce and a little bit of grind on the heel. I currently use the RTX4 wedges. My 58* is a 56* mid bent to 58*.

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    Hybrids: 19* Adams XTD Super Hybrid VTS 100s, 23* Adams Super 9031 S300
    Irons: 4 (Recoil 125 F4), 5-PW Ben Hoga PTx Pro DGTI S400
    Wedges: 48* bent to 49* Hogan TK wedge, RTX 4 52* bent to 53* Mid, and Mizuon S18 56* bent to 58*. All wedges have DGTI S400
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  • Jeff58Jeff58 Bend OregonMembers  187WRX Points: 109Posts: 187 Fairways
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    Agree with Mr.

    On -, @SUPERG. The Vokey L or M (less extreme) are excellent for firm to hard surfaces.
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    On -, @jah7838 said:

    What part of Texas? I’ve lived in DFW and Houston, and have done fine with my 58* having around 12* of bounce and a little bit of grind on the heel. I currently use the RTX4 wedges. My 58* is a 56* mid bent to 58*.

    DFW but I play cheap cheap dried out courses :)

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  • ThinkingPlusThinkingPlus South TexasClubWRX  2335WRX Points: 1,269Handicap: +0.9Posts: 2,335 ClubWRX
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    Vokey L grind for your lob wedge (4° bounce).
    Sand wedge is still a search in progress. Golf world is bounce happy. Hard to find anything less than 8°. I use a Vokey M grind with 8° of bounce, but it isn't ideal.

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    3W: Callaway Rogue w/Project X Evenflow 5.5 Graphite R-flex
    Hybrids: Callaway Apex 3h, 4h w/MR Kuro Kage 80HY S-flex
    Irons: Maltby TS-1 5i-GW w/KBS Tour R-flex
    Sand Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM7 54/08 M Grind w/KBS Tour R-Flex
    Lob Wedge: Titleist Vokey SM6 58/04 L Grind w/TT Wedge Flex
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  • Jack_HJack_H Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers  30840WRX Points: 7,106Handicap: NONEPosts: 30,840 Titanium Tees
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    Try looking at how the leading edge sits to the ground. You can play more bounce in hard pan ( I know. I have hard red clay ) if the leading edge is on the ground. Making truly less “ effective “ bounce.

    I personally like a sand wedge to have more bounce stated. Then I’ll bend it 2 degrees strong to get the leading edge down. So buy a 56 and bend it to 54. That gives you more options. A low bounce L grind lob wedge coupled with an S or M grind sand bent strong gives loads of options.

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    generally you would want to get a wedge with very low bounce if you're playing on very firm dry courses. If you opt for higher bounce you basically have to de-loft the wedge to neutralize the bounce on the sole of the club. hopefully the sand is firm too ;)

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    A wedge with low bounce and really good timing. I prefer a pitching wedge. It's more forgiving than a sand wedge or lob wedge will ever be.

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    Adams Idea Pro 20°
    Adams Idea Pro 23°
    Mizuno MP18 SC's Fli-Hi 4&5
    Cleveland RTX3 50,54 & 60
    TaylorMade Spider Mini
  • Fort Worth ProFort Worth Pro Members  2825WRX Points: 210Posts: 2,825 Titanium Tees
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    Sole geometry is so much more important than the bounce number on the bottom. Playing super burnt out firm courses you would ideally have a leading edge that sits no more than .260 off the ground. Most wedges these days sit much higher.

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    I do not believe you need a really low bounce wedge off hard pan. The grind matters a lot more. For me something like an M grind with 8 degrees bounce or a Cleveland RTX4 low, also 8 degrees. Margin for error is much better versus a 4 degree bounce wedge. Bounce does not cause poor shots off hard pan, it is all technique. Too much shaft lean is usually the problem or trying to use the leading edge to clip the ball off the hardpan, which is difficult to do consistently. If the leading edge is low on a wedge with mid-bounce, and you limit your wrist hinge on the backswing, I think these shots get a lot easier.

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    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • StetsonStetson Members  2667WRX Points: 169Posts: 2,667 Titanium Tees
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    Vokey Links K is the gold standard if you can find one

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    Driver: Titleist TS3 (Ventus Black)
    5w:  Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue)
    3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Tour AD DI)
    or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI)
    4-P: PXG 0311T (KBS $-Taper)
    Wedges: 51* Edel TRP, 55* Edel DVR, 60* Cally MD5
    Putter: PXG Mini Gunboat H
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    On -, @pingnewbie said:

    On -, @jah7838 said:

    What part of Texas? I’ve lived in DFW and Houston, and have done fine with my 58* having around 12* of bounce and a little bit of grind on the heel. I currently use the RTX4 wedges. My 58* is a 56* mid bent to 58*.

    DFW but I play cheap cheap dried out courses :)

    I definitely don’t play fancy courses, lol. Played Riverchase in Coppell yesterday afternoon and had no issues with the dry hard ground with my RTX4.

    I also get pretty steep at times, so the extra bounce is helpful to me. I had the 58* mid RTX4, and was not as consistent as I am with the 56* bent to 58*.

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    Hybrids: 19* Adams XTD Super Hybrid VTS 100s, 23* Adams Super 9031 S300
    Irons: 4 (Recoil 125 F4), 5-PW Ben Hoga PTx Pro DGTI S400
    Wedges: 48* bent to 49* Hogan TK wedge, RTX 4 52* bent to 53* Mid, and Mizuon S18 56* bent to 58*. All wedges have DGTI S400
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  • ChipNRunChipNRun Members  2150WRX Points: 472Posts: 2,150 Platinum Tees
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    This is outside of wedges, but a hybrid is good for chipping off of moon-crater lies.
    Here in St. Louis area, a really wet summer leads to fluff-and-dirt mottling around greens on low part of courses: If you have 95 degrees and sunny, rain, 95 degrees and sunny, rain... fungus can start which leave irregular turf in its wake until a few weeks of cool September.

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    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr.  | Note: MD4 58°/8.C-grind may replace MD/PM
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
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  • Fort Worth ProFort Worth Pro Members  2825WRX Points: 210Posts: 2,825 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @dmeeksDC said:

    I do not believe you need a really low bounce wedge off hard pan. The grind matters a lot more. For me something like an M grind with 8 degrees bounce or a Cleveland RTX4 low, also 8 degrees. Margin for error is much better versus a 4 degree bounce wedge. Bounce does not cause poor shots off hard pan, it is all technique. Too much shaft lean is usually the problem or trying to use the leading edge to clip the ball off the hardpan, which is difficult to do consistently. If the leading edge is low on a wedge with mid-bounce, and you limit your wrist hinge on the backswing, I think these shots get a lot easier.

    Most of the wedges on the market these days have leading edges that are far too high. Almost all are at least .275 and many are over .300. Can’t get correct grooves to ball unless you shove hands forward which creates steep. The tools train a lot of bad technique.

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    I really like Eye 2 style for firm lies. It’s a love it or hate it wedge though.

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    Callaway Epic Flash 3w 
    Ping G410 5 and 7 wood
    Callaway Apex 23*
    Ping G 4-U
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS or Vokey M Grind 58
    Grips NDMC +4
    Odyssey Pro #1 black
    Jones Utility
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  • chisagchisag Chicago SuburbsMembers  3283WRX Points: 621Handicap: +0.3Posts: 3,283 Titanium Tees
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    ... I think you should always use as much bounce as you can effectively play. I play the D Grind with my SM7 here in Chicago with the soft conditions and thick rough around the greens. But I spent the winter in Phoenix last year with similar conditions to Texas and I had to pick up an SM6 with the M Grind. It worked much better off the hard pan and in the sandless bunkers.

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    Cobra SZ 17* ... Even Flow Blue 75s
    TaylorMade GAPR Mid ... KBS 80Hys
    TaylorMade UDi 18* TP 2 iron... Kuro Kage Black 90Hys
    4-pw TaylorMade P790/760 ... Steelfiber 95's/Recoil Prototype 95's
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  • BCULAWBCULAW Orlando, FLMembers  3823WRX Points: 347Posts: 3,823 Titanium Tees
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    I play on a lot of thin bernuda with Sandy soil in Central Florida and was having a terrible time transitioning here from the lush conditions I left in Virginia. Tight, grainy lies we're grabbing my high bounce, wide sole wedges (Vokey K, and Glide WS). I switched to the RTX4 low, and could not begin to tell you what a difference it has made. I've also played the Vokey L grind, but the Cleveland provides the same precision but with so much more room for error.

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  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers  1493WRX Points: 347Handicap: $$Posts: 1,493 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @bladehunter said:

    Try looking at how the leading edge sits to the ground. You can play more bounce in hard pan ( I know. I have hard red clay ) if the leading edge is on the ground. Making truly less “ effective “ bounce.

    I personally like a sand wedge to have more bounce stated. Then I’ll bend it 2 degrees strong to get the leading edge down. So buy a 56 and bend it to 54. That gives you more options. A low bounce L grind lob wedge coupled with an S or M grind sand bent strong gives loads of options.

    I think blade has the best solution if you can find it, a decent amount of bounce along with the leading edge that sits down. The bounce has to be in the right places. It's the reason I think the original Eye 2 wedges were and are so esteemed to this day. I still play them. They have bounce in all the right places and that bounce still helps on hardpan when you come in to the ground a little early. This type of wedge is money out of any type of sand also. The old Cleveland DSG wedges perform similarly for me. I played the DSGs for a few years and went back to the old Eye 2 wedges this summer. You can hit great shots of the firm stuff with a low bounce wedge, but if you miss, it's bad. A little more bounce with a low leading edge will turn a miss into at least a serviceable shot a lot of times.

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  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX  2848WRX Points: 409Handicap: 8Posts: 2,848 ClubWRX
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    On -, @Fort Worth Pro said:

    On -, @dmeeksDC said:

    I do not believe you need a really low bounce wedge off hard pan. The grind matters a lot more. For me something like an M grind with 8 degrees bounce or a Cleveland RTX4 low, also 8 degrees. Margin for error is much better versus a 4 degree bounce wedge. Bounce does not cause poor shots off hard pan, it is all technique. Too much shaft lean is usually the problem or trying to use the leading edge to clip the ball off the hardpan, which is difficult to do consistently. If the leading edge is low on a wedge with mid-bounce, and you limit your wrist hinge on the backswing, I think these shots get a lot easier.

    Most of the wedges on the market these days have leading edges that are far too high. Almost all are at least .275 and many are over .300. Can’t get correct grooves to ball unless you shove hands forward which creates steep. The tools train a lot of bad technique.

    I agree with you, but it is just as true that a lot of players never get taught the easiest way to play the shot. It is true the leading edge can vary quite a bit. I like how the RTX4 58 low sits. Seems easier with that wedge than others I have tried. The Mizuno S5 was another one that worked well for me. The Vokey M grinds I also like. And one more that doesn’t often get mentioned. The Ben Hogan Ft. Worth wedges are really compact and have a nice look. Very nimble.

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    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
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  • scottyc15scottyc15 HoustonMembers  85WRX Points: 98Handicap: +3Posts: 85 Fairways
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    Vokey L grind or RTX 4 Low/XLow

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    Go do a fitting with Edel. They have unbelievable grinds for tight lies.

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  • mantanmantan Members  2670WRX Points: 249Handicap: 13.5Posts: 2,670 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @jah7838 said:

    On -, @pingnewbie said:

    On -, @jah7838 said:

    What part of Texas? I’ve lived in DFW and Houston, and have done fine with my 58* having around 12* of bounce and a little bit of grind on the heel. I currently use the RTX4 wedges. My 58* is a 56* mid bent to 58*.

    DFW but I play cheap cheap dried out courses :)

    I definitely don’t play fancy courses, lol. Played Riverchase in Coppell yesterday afternoon and had no issues with the dry hard ground with my RTX4.

    I also get pretty steep at times, so the extra bounce is helpful to me. I had the 58* mid RTX4, and was not as consistent as I am with the 56* bent to 58*.

    Slight threadjack, how is Riverchase these days? I used to play it a few times a year as it was close to the office. I haven't played in it about 3-4 years. The conditions were getting pretty bad and I heard they got worse. But they had dirt cheap golf on their email package with lunch and a beer included...

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    PING G400 5-Wood
    Cleveland Launcher Turbo 22* Hybrid
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    Cleveland CBX 2 50*
    Cleveland CBX 2 54*
    PING Glide ES 58*
    Cleveland Frontline Elevado
    Bridgestone Tour B RX/RXS
  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members  5958WRX Points: 1,420Handicap: 3Posts: 5,958 Titanium Tees
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    Nothing but love for the L Grind from me. I will switch it out for something with more bounce in the winter (it also saves the grooves) but in normal conditions, the L Grind Vokey is just superb. Up there with the driver as being my favourite club in the bag.

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    Titleist 712U 3 Stiff Graphite Design Tour AD DI
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    Titleist Vokey SM6 50.08 & 54.10
    Titlesist Vokey SM7 60.04
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    New MG2 with the LB C Grind is pretty good. Not super low bounce by any means

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    On -, @bladehunter said:

    Try looking at how the leading edge sits to the ground. You can play more bounce in hard pan ( I know. I have hard red clay ) if the leading edge is on the ground. Making truly less “ effective “ bounce.

    I personally like a sand wedge to have more bounce stated. Then I’ll bend it 2 degrees strong to get the leading edge down. So buy a 56 and bend it to 54. That gives you more options. A low bounce L grind lob wedge coupled with an S or M grind sand bent strong gives loads of options.

    I used to never agree with this until I watched the most recent TXG video compared wedge launch and spin for 40 and 70 yard shots of low and high bounce wedges, on both soft and firm turf conditions. Oddly enough, the high bounce wedge actually spun more, which... I guess isn't that odd if you stop and think why (lower contact on the face).

    As long as you don't open the face a huge amount and play a lot of square faced pitches, I think you can still play higher bounce wedges and it may actually be beneficial. I'm actually now considering trying to find a higher bounce 64 degree that I can play square faced out of my firmer-ish bunkers.

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  • MychMych Members  2137WRX Points: 381Posts: 2,137 Platinum Tees
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    I look for a low-to-the-ground and less rounded leading edge with decent heel relief for opening it up. Off hardpan you can play a wedge that would normally dig and get away with it.

    I saw someone mention Cobra's earlier, that's what's in my bag also.

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    I just switched to the Cleveland CBX2 wedges. My opinion is that these wedges can be hit out of/off of any surface and will perform excellently. While they aren't the thinnest girls around, they sure know how to handle balls better then you'd believe.

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    3-Wood: TaylorMade M5 15* w/ Oban Devotion 8 O5
    Hybrid: PXG 0317X Gen 2 19* w/ Oban Kiyoshi Purple Hybrid O5
    4i - 9i: NLG 902 w/ DG TI X100
    Wedges: Jaws MD5 46/10S, 50/10S, 54/8C, 58/8W, all w/ DG TI S400
    Putter: Lajosi Custom DD201WB w/ Stability Shaft

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    On -, @Celebros said:

    I love my Cobra wedges in their WideLow grind off of hard turf.

    +1, Cobra wedges with their versatile grind (TriBounce as they called it on the older clubs) are unreal good on hardpan.

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    Cobra F8+ 9.5*D, Fujikura Pro XLR8 61X at 44.25"
    Titleist 917F2 16.5*, Diamana Blueboard 73X
    Taylormade PSI Tour 3 iron, DG Pro X100
    Taylormade RBladez 5i-PW
    Taylormade RSI2 AW 50*
    Cobra Trusty Rusty 53*, 59*, DG S200
    Cleveland 588 RTX2.0 64*
    Odyssey White Hot OG #1 Arm-lock conversion at 7*, 42"
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