Korean Tour money leader suspended THREE YEARS for obscene gesture

Damn, this is a pretty harsh penalty. Sure he shouldn't have done it but three years?? I thought the Korean tour was based out of South Korea and not North Korea lol

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/korean-tour-money-leader-bio-kim-suspended-3-years-obscene-gesture

Ouch!!

No messing around there.

we should let the koreans handle crowd control in the US ...

Those who were there claim that the gallery intentionally un-muted their phones and took pics during the swing (so the shutter sound goes off). can't justify the player's actions, but it becomes more gray if you take into account spectators' behavior. some of these guys literally depend on these events and obviously train hard for it

It was actually for still using a RBZ Stage 2 3-wood.

Poulter flipped off the crowd at the 2010 Waste Management with no punishment, people forget that

Different culture, different rules.

> @kevinscott22 said:

> Poulter flipped off the crowd at the 2010 Waste Management with no punishment, people forget that

gonna go out on a limb and say they probably deserved it ...

He may be banned from the Korean Tour, but he should be able to play on other tours. Since he was so far up on the money list that may mean he has enough world ranking points to qualify for events in other countries on other tours.

> @thebogeyputt said:

> Those who were there claim that the gallery intentionally un-muted their phones and took pics during the swing (so the shutter sound goes off). can't justify the player's actions, but it becomes more gray if you take into account spectators' behavior. some of these guys literally depend on these events and obviously train hard for it

First, they didn’t “unmute” their shutters. In Korea it is law that cameras must have a shutter sound. So as far as I’m aware it’s not something that can be turned on or off.

Second, the punishment is way over the top in my opinion.

> @tiderider said:

> we should let the koreans handle crowd control in the US ...

Actually this would empower the crowd knowing such a harsh punishment would come to player if they react at all like a normal human. Point is Don’t live in Korea...

> @"Golf Scientist" said:

> He may be banned from the Korean Tour, but he should be able to play on other tours. Since he was so far up on the money list that may mean he has enough world ranking points to qualify for events in other countries on other tours.

current ranking is #302 after the win

I guess they made their point.

Emiliano Grillo flipped off the hole at the Northern Trust when his putt to make the cut lipped out.

He played the next week at the BMW. If there was a fine, it was not disclosed. (as is PGA Tour policy)

> @"Darth Putter" said:

> Emiliano Grillo flipped off the hole at the Northern Trust when his putt to make the cut lipped out.

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> He played the next week at the BMW. If there was a fine, it was not disclosed. (as is PGA Tour policy)

Tommy Fleetwood did it at Augusta this year and was not thrown off the property.

Based on that, I must have a lifetime ban from golf coming to me.

Good thing Auston Matthews isn't in Korea

What happened to the guy with camera, executed?

> @mackepa said:

> > @thebogeyputt said:

> > Those who were there claim that the gallery intentionally un-muted their phones and took pics during the swing (so the shutter sound goes off). can't justify the player's actions, but it becomes more gray if you take into account spectators' behavior. some of these guys literally depend on these events and obviously train hard for it

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> First, they didn’t “unmute” their shutters. In Korea it is law that cameras must have a shutter sound. So as far as I’m aware it’s not something that can be turned on or off.

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> Second, the punishment is way over the top in my opinion.

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That is a law in Japan not Korea.

Wow. If this had been *North* Korea, it might make sense.

I guess those of us in the US take freedom of expression for granted sometimes.....

I have footage of Bio Kim on my slicefixer video, like 2014-2015, one of his students. No flip offs. Geoff said he was a real rock star in Korea. Maybe not now.

Seems too severe to me. I wish they would be more harsh on ignorant fans, and also ban phone usage except for designated areas.

such a disgrace. takes a lifetime to build a good reputation but a split second to ruin it.

Completely different standard of acceptable public behavior. That said, 3 years could mean his career is finished, that's brutal.

Too long, rest of the year would have been enough. Tired of watching robots play golf anyway.

> @kevinscott22 said:

> Poulter flipped off the crowd at the 2010 Waste Management with no punishment, people forget that

They absolutely deserved it too. Good grief. Some of those fans needed a 3 year pga tour ban themselves.

> @Murphy76 said:

> Wow. If this had been *North* Korea, it might make sense.

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> I guess those of us in the US take freedom of expression for granted sometimes.....

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Yep. I know everyone has the occasion to do so. But I was raised by my grandfather , a two theatre WWII vet , and he made sure I knew what the cost of that type freedom is/was. I’ll hear his voice till my dying day I’m sure. As far as I know I’m the only one he ever described D-day etc to. Far more graphic than any movie I’ve ever seen.

Sorry for the history lesson. But it just took over my mind when I read your post.

> @cfunk11 said:

> What happened to the guy with camera, executed?

What guy ?

> @bladehunter said:

> > @Murphy76 said:

> > Wow. If this had been *North* Korea, it might make sense.

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> > I guess those of us in the US take freedom of expression for granted sometimes.....

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> Yep. I know everyone has the occasion to do so. But I was raised by my grandfather , a two theatre WWII vet , and he made sure I knew what the cost of that type freedom is/was. I’ll hear his voice till my dying day I’m sure. As far as I know I’m the only one he ever described D-day etc to. Far more graphic than any movie I’ve ever seen.

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> Sorry for the history lesson. But it just took over my mind when I read your post.

political philosophical aside here, but "freedom of expression" pertains to being free from government restrictions of expression ... tours are private companies /entities that are "free" to 'express' their restrictions, a cornerstone of capitalism ... are they not? (philosophically speaking) ...