He has a chance to fall out of the top 50 for the first time in 26 years. 26 YEARS!! Amazing stat. No one has stayed in the top 50 for that long. I don't care if you love him or hate him that is a hell of a career.

Queue Ferguson with a snarky comment. :#

You know, it's a pretty remarkable stat, considering Phil isn't really known for his consistency. But if you think about it, while he never really won a bunch of tournaments in any single season he seemed to always win 2-3 every year and make a bunch of cuts, over a really long period of time. I guess playing in the era of Tiger tends to make others accomplishments SEEM less significant. Phil is great, in my opinion an all-time top 20 player, somewhere in the 10-20 range. And while this isn't as amazing as Tigers cut streak, or Jack's major streak it's a stat that may never be broken.

26 years in the top 50 is remarkable.

NEVER being #1 in that 26 year span is even more remarkable.

> @"Darth Putter" said:

> 26 years in the top 50 is remarkable.

>

> NEVER being #1 in that 26 year span is even more remarkable.

The second part of this was what I actually came to say. The fact that Phil has never been #1 in the world is something that still kind of baffles me with how long he has been up there in the rankings.

i'd put him 12-14th on the goat list ... he won 36 times, including 5 majors, from '97 onward ... he was a pro only 4 years longer than tiger, which is something people tend to forget, so he played right up against tiger's prime for essentially most of his career ...

There was a point in time in Phil’s peak where he had the 2nd best winning % in pga your history behind only Tiger. I think Phil wins 10 majors or more without Tiger.

> @dlygrisse said:

> You know, it's a pretty remarkable stat, considering Phil isn't really known for his consistency. But if you think about it, while he never really won a bunch of tournaments in any single season he seemed to always win 2-3 every year and make a bunch of cuts, over a really long period of time. I guess playing in the era of Tiger tends to make others accomplishments SEEM less significant. Phil is great, in my opinion an all-time top 20 player, somewhere in the 10-20 range. And while this isn't as amazing as Tigers cut streak, or Jack's major streak it's a stat that may never be broken.

Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

> @300_yard_drives said:

> There was a point in time in Phil’s peak where he had the 2nd best winning % in pga your history behind only Tiger. I think Phil wins 10 majors or more without Tiger.

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > You know, it's a pretty remarkable stat, considering Phil isn't really known for his consistency. But if you think about it, while he never really won a bunch of tournaments in any single season he seemed to always win 2-3 every year and make a bunch of cuts, over a really long period of time. I guess playing in the era of Tiger tends to make others accomplishments SEEM less significant. Phil is great, in my opinion an all-time top 20 player, somewhere in the 10-20 range. And while this isn't as amazing as Tigers cut streak, or Jack's major streak it's a stat that may never be broken.

>

>

Not sure about that. Phil finished runner up to Tiger once I think in Major, so by that reasoning if Tiger wasn't there he would have one more Major?

> @Catty said:

> > @300_yard_drives said:

> > There was a point in time in Phil’s peak where he had the 2nd best winning % in pga your history behind only Tiger. I think Phil wins 10 majors or more without Tiger.

> > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > You know, it's a pretty remarkable stat, considering Phil isn't really known for his consistency. But if you think about it, while he never really won a bunch of tournaments in any single season he seemed to always win 2-3 every year and make a bunch of cuts, over a really long period of time. I guess playing in the era of Tiger tends to make others accomplishments SEEM less significant. Phil is great, in my opinion an all-time top 20 player, somewhere in the 10-20 range. And while this isn't as amazing as Tigers cut streak, or Jack's major streak it's a stat that may never be broken.

> >

> >

>

> Not sure about that. Phil finished runner up to Tiger once I think in Major, so by that reasoning if Tiger wasn't there he would have one more Major?

lmao. the stats don't lie i guess

> @Catty said:

> > @300_yard_drives said:

> > There was a point in time in Phil’s peak where he had the 2nd best winning % in pga your history behind only Tiger. I think Phil wins 10 majors or more without Tiger.

> > > @dlygrisse said:

> > > You know, it's a pretty remarkable stat, considering Phil isn't really known for his consistency. But if you think about it, while he never really won a bunch of tournaments in any single season he seemed to always win 2-3 every year and make a bunch of cuts, over a really long period of time. I guess playing in the era of Tiger tends to make others accomplishments SEEM less significant. Phil is great, in my opinion an all-time top 20 player, somewhere in the 10-20 range. And while this isn't as amazing as Tigers cut streak, or Jack's major streak it's a stat that may never be broken.

> >

> >

>

> Not sure about that. Phil finished runner up to Tiger once I think in Major, so by that reasoning if Tiger wasn't there he would have one more Major?

I'm a huge fan of Phil but put me in the not sure sure camp as well. 2002 US Open is the only 2nd I know of, and it seems like Tiger was in control the entire way. Of course, there are some other tournaments where Tiger won, Phil finished somewhere up the board but not 2nd, and maybe it would have been different if Tiger wasn't out there killing everyone.

When people talk about another player getting to 10 majors (Koepka, Rory, Spieth, etc), Phil's play is an interesting comparison. Obviously, 5 isn't close to 10 but when you look at all of his second place finishes (some were closer than others) there's 5-10 swings that need to be different and he'd be right there. On the flip side, he also won some that he easily could have lost too. I think this has happened to Rory and Spieth as well. They each completely blew one (2011 Masters, 2016 Masters) but more recently each had a real chance to win but it just hasn't panned out. It would be interesting to see the win % vs. Top 3 finishes for a lot of the very very good players. Tiger's is very high and Jack's is up there as well, but I wonder if it falls off dramatically after that. Phil's may still be a bit low here, but my guess is that it's not as bad as the 11 seconds seem at times.

> @NonCompetitive1 said:

> Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

>

> Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

>

> Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

>

> You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

>

> When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

Gotta admit I could have done better with the thread title. :)

> @lawsonman said:

> > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

> >

> > Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

> >

> > Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

> >

> > You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

> >

> > When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

>

> Gotta admit I could have done better with the thread title. :)

I see you.

As for other postings. Imagining Tiger didn't exist is a weird and highly questionable concept. Mods need bigger boots on here at times.

> @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > > Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

> > >

> > > Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

> > >

> > > Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

> > >

> > > You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

> > >

> > > When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

> >

> > Gotta admit I could have done better with the thread title. :)

>

> I see you.

>

> As for other postings. Imagining Tiger didn't exist is a weird and highly questionable concept. Mods need bigger boots on here at times.

Which forum rules were violated so that the mods need to interfere?

Phil has definitely moved the needle at times and has been criticized more than anyone I can think of. However, he's won more than his fair share and deserves credit for doing what's necessary to be able to compete with the guys 25 years his junior.

> @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > > Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

> > >

> > > Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

> > >

> > > Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

> > >

> > > You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

> > >

> > > When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

> >

> > Gotta admit I could have done better with the thread title. :)

>

> I see you.

>

> As for other postings. Imagining Tiger didn't exist is a weird and highly questionable concept. Mods need bigger boots on here at times.

Agreed about mods but not for that.

> @nitram said:

> Phil has definitely moved the needle at times and has been criticized more than anyone I can think of.

You really think Phil has been criticized nore than Tiger?

Tiger who? Back to Phil please!

His loss to Henrick in the British Open was probably one of his greatest 4 round performances in a major.............its been an interesting journey.

Unbelievable longevity from Phil. That amount of time in the Top 50 of anything is incredible but in a competitive sport when he is twice the age and more of the guys that he is now competing with is remarkable. I’m not sure that anyone will ever get close to that record. Anyone have any idea who has the next longest spell in the Top 50?

I’m curious who has the record for most weeks at world #2. I would bet it’s Phil. Unfortunately his prime aligned with the most dominant stretch of golf in the modern era. As to thinking mods need a bigger boot? Maybe you are Chinese. Let people say what they want. No one is being harmed here. > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > > Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

> > >

> > > Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

> > >

> > > Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

> > >

> > > You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

> > >

> > > When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

> >

> > Gotta admit I could have done better with the thread title. :)

>

> I see you.

>

> As for other postings. Imagining Tiger didn't exist is a weird and highly questionable concept. Mods need bigger boots on here at times.

> @300_yard_drives said:

> I’m curious who has the record for most weeks at world #2. I would bet it’s Phil. Unfortunately his prime aligned with the most dominant stretch of golf in the modern era. As to thinking mods need a bigger boot? Maybe you are Chinese. Let people say what they want. No one is being harmed here. > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > > @lawsonman said:

> > > > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > > > Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

> > > >

> > > > Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

> > > >

> > > > Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

> > > >

> > > > You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

> > > >

> > > > When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

> > >

> > > Gotta admit I could have done better with the thread title. :)

> >

> > I see you.

> >

> > As for other postings. Imagining Tiger didn't exist is a weird and highly questionable concept. Mods need bigger boots on here at times.

>

>

Nope. Wrong. As for Phil Michelson, a player of very high calibre. To imagine a concept where any person or player doesn't exist - complete waste of time and effort.

> @nitram said:

> Phil has definitely moved the needle at times and has been criticized more than anyone I can think of. However, he's won more than his fair share and deserves credit for doing what's necessary to be able to compete with the guys 25 years his junior.

Let's keep it real here...

> @"Night train" said:

> His loss to Henrick in the British Open was probably one of his greatest 4 round performances in a major.............its been an interesting journey.

That one and his Ryder cup match with Sergio for sure.

> @lawsonman said:

> > @"Night train" said:

> > His loss to Henrick in the British Open was probably one of his greatest 4 round performances in a major.............its been an interesting journey.

>

> That one and his Ryder cup match with Sergio for sure.

2016 is pretty much peak Phil. Playing incredible and still end up in glorious failure.

> @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @NonCompetitive1 said:

> > > Does it matter? He is one of the greatest flair players in the history of the game. He is what he is. Not everyone is the same. He's a good guy..

> > >

> > > Hi OP, I misread the post a little.

> > >

> > > Interesting stat. He's a good guy Michelson, one of the best characters that ever existed in golf.

> > >

> > > You are fiery and real op, that's amazing...hence the initial misread..

> > >

> > > When I think of Michelson I think of the backwards shot clip, insane flair and he's actually a funny guy when I think of it too. He was like a genie with a golf club in his prime and honestly I think he still is. One of my favourite players.

> >

> > Gotta admit I could have done better with the thread title. :)

>

> I see you.

>

> As for other postings. Imagining Tiger didn't exist is a weird and highly questionable concept. Mods need bigger boots on here at times.

That’s right, I forgot they are afraid to Skype you.

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.

> @grm24 said:

> > @nitram said:

> > Phil has definitely moved the needle at times and has been criticized more than anyone I can think of.

>

> You really think Phil has been criticized nore than Tiger?

>

> At times, yes. And for totally different reasons.

36 second places, 27 thirds, $90.6MM career earnings, 195 top tens, 44 wins (took all this from PGA stats)

Not a bad gig. Being #2 with all that cash. and still being able to play at 49 (and probably into his 60's if he wants that life)

and that's having to contend with Tiger during many of those years.

Sometimes I can't help but think that Phil would have had more wins if not for Phil. His flair and I can make that shot-go for it attitude is certainly something that we appreciate in him but, at times it has not served him all that well.

I just noticed something interesting also in his record, and I know there have been some increasing health condition issues he has been battling, but when you look his major's record from 2010 through 2016 he doesn't have a year where he did not at least finish 3rd in at least one major. In fact he won 2 of them and finished second in 5; then he splits with Bones in June of 2017 and has not come close to even a top ten finish in a major since. So it makes me wonder is this just coincidence or is there an increased lack of restraint contributing to things here?

Never numero uno?

Remember that time he skipped the US OPEN to attend the graduation?

I posted quite a bit in that thread.