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TXG - VIDEO OF full Mizuno bag give away

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tsecortsecor Loading........ 4490Members Posts: 4,490
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Did anyone see the youtube vid of the guy who was fit or a full bag of Mizuno clubs? It was a very well done video and the TXG guys called the MP-20 blades "Game improvement" for this guy.....was very interesting.

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  • danielt823danielt823 Melbourne 44Members Posts: 44
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    I did happen to skim through it. The sound between his old clubs and new ones were night and day. Much better results with the players irons for him.

    Goes to show that not one club fits all swings. Very much player dependant. Of course the correct shaft plays a big role in that as well.

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    D: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    FW: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    I: Mizuno MP20 - KBS $-Taper (Black PVD) (3 HMB/4,5,6,7 MMC/8,9,PW MB)
    W: Titleist SM7 Chrome (50/56/60)
    P: Taylormade Spider X Tour - Blue/Small Slant
    B: Titleist ProV1
    Bag: Taylormade Flextech Crossover

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  • Carolina Golfer 2Carolina Golfer 2  9266Members Posts: 9,266
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    @danielt823 said:
    I did happen to skim through it. The sound between his old clubs and new ones were night and day. Much better results with the players irons for him.

    Goes to show that not one club fits all swings. Very much player dependent. Of course the correct shaft plays a big role in that as well.

    Yeah, actually it wasn't his old clubs, he didn't bring his clubs with him. So the heavy sounding shots were with I believe JPX Tour or Forged that they tried a few different lies on. Finally got him into the MP20's and because of the narrower sole, he was making much better contact, he had enough club speed, I think upper 80's with a 6 iron to hit those effectively Even his mishits were solid enough that he was reaching the green, where the mishits with the Forged were heavier and chunkier and coming up short.

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    PING G410 FW SFT 3, 7 and  G410 9 
    PING G410 Hybrid 5 
    PING G700 6-W KBS Alta CB R
    Vokey  50.10, 54.10 58..12
    Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 

  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 189Members Posts: 189
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    Yes, very refreshing to see the other side of those "unforgiving" blades. Ian is an amazing fitter for sure.

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

  • danielt823danielt823 Melbourne 44Members Posts: 44
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    @Carolina Golfer 2 said:

    @danielt823 said:
    I did happen to skim through it. The sound between his old clubs and new ones were night and day. Much better results with the players irons for him.

    Goes to show that not one club fits all swings. Very much player dependent. Of course the correct shaft plays a big role in that as well.

    Yeah, actually it wasn't his old clubs, he didn't bring his clubs with him. So the heavy sounding shots were with I believe JPX Tour or Forged that they tried a few different lies on. Finally got him into the MP20's and because of the narrower sole, he was making much better contact, he had enough club speed, I think upper 80's with a 6 iron to hit those effectively Even his mishits were solid enough that he was reaching the green, where the mishits with the Forged were heavier and chunkier and coming up short.

    Ahh I see. I just assumed that they were his old clubs. I guess that’s what happens when you skim through things, possibly miss vital information haha!

    Goes to show that larger doesn’t always mean better results for every player.

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    D: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    FW: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    I: Mizuno MP20 - KBS $-Taper (Black PVD) (3 HMB/4,5,6,7 MMC/8,9,PW MB)
    W: Titleist SM7 Chrome (50/56/60)
    P: Taylormade Spider X Tour - Blue/Small Slant
    B: Titleist ProV1
    Bag: Taylormade Flextech Crossover

  • craz-ecraz-e  4261Members Posts: 4,261
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    That's the difference with having a good fitter who thinks a little outside of the box

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    4 wood = Titleist TS2 Even flow white 6.0
    3 iron = Titleist U500 Hzrdus smoke 6.0
    Irons = Titleist 718 CB/MB Project X LZ 6.0
    Wedges = Titleist Vokey SM6 52*, 56*
                  = Ping Glide 3.0 eye 2 60* 
    Putter = Wilson Staff 8882
    Ball = Titleist AVX
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  • jc88jc88  43Members Posts: 43
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    very good fitter

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  • Carolina Golfer 2Carolina Golfer 2  9266Members Posts: 9,266
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    @danielt823 said:

    @Carolina Golfer 2 said:

    @danielt823 said:
    I did happen to skim through it. The sound between his old clubs and new ones were night and day. Much better results with the players irons for him.

    Goes to show that not one club fits all swings. Very much player dependent. Of course the correct shaft plays a big role in that as well.

    Yeah, actually it wasn't his old clubs, he didn't bring his clubs with him. So the heavy sounding shots were with I believe JPX Tour or Forged that they tried a few different lies on. Finally got him into the MP20's and because of the narrower sole, he was making much better contact, he had enough club speed, I think upper 80's with a 6 iron to hit those effectively Even his mishits were solid enough that he was reaching the green, where the mishits with the Forged were heavier and chunkier and coming up short.

    Ahh I see. I just assumed that they were his old clubs. I guess that’s what happens when you skim through things, possibly miss vital information haha!

    Goes to show that larger doesn’t always mean better results for every player.

    Exactly and I had a very similar experience last week at a fitting at TPI. I went in with my G700 and hit both the T300 and the CNCPT 01. The 300 was by far the best for me due to less ground contact than the other two. Both of them have wider soles and my old and not correct thinking was that as a higher handicap--14.9---the bigger the sole the more forgiving it would be.

    But I went from smash factors of 1.24 or so in the G700 and CNCPT to 1.34 in the T300.

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    Titleist TS1 10.5 Fubuki 45g Sr Flex
    PING G410 FW SFT 3, 7 and  G410 9 
    PING G410 Hybrid 5 
    PING G700 6-W KBS Alta CB R
    Vokey  50.10, 54.10 58..12
    Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 

  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1613Members Posts: 1,613
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    @dalillama47 said:
    I did see it, and I’ll preface this by saying that I watch and like all their video’s. But honestly, iron fitting are night and day different between real grass and an indoor mat. But you definitely could tell by sound that he hit the blade cleaner

    This. I told myself I would not buy a set of irons again based just on a mat fitting. I have talked with TXG about outdoor fittings and they are perhaps working towards that though they claim it's to keep consistency. In reality, it's just easier for the fitter to have everything there. Golf is played off grass not mats.

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 4-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"
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  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. Canada 2866Members Posts: 2,866
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    I’m pretty sure TXG have gone to great lengths to pick artificial turf swatches that as closely as possible emulate real grass. In one regard, a mat will give more consistency than real grass if the range is anything like my local club’s pock marked, sandy shaggy range.

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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ Triple Diamond 10.5° driver MCA Diamana ZF 50 S Flex
    Callaway Epic Flash 10.5° driver MCA Diamana DF 50 S Flex
    Callaway Epic Flash 15° fairway wood MCA Diamana BF 60 S Flex
    Callaway Rogue 19° hybrid MCA MMT 90 S Flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-12 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge
    Odyssey RSX Milled V-Line Fang
    Titleist Yellow Pro V1
  • danielt823danielt823 Melbourne 44Members Posts: 44
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    I’m sure if TXG were able to take all of the options they have and do fittings from grass then they would. However it just wouldn’t be logistically feasible.

    They could however do indoor fittings on the mats and get the best two options and then go to an outside grass range And have the player see which one they like best from the grass and have an LM backup their choices.

    Ian does seem to have a ton of knowledge on which club and shaft options would work best based on the swing he has in front of him, he seems to be able to explain how those options may react out on the course, I’m certain I’ve heard him mention the benefits of certain iron head designs when he is fitting a player and how it would play on the course.

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    D: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    FW: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    I: Mizuno MP20 - KBS $-Taper (Black PVD) (3 HMB/4,5,6,7 MMC/8,9,PW MB)
    W: Titleist SM7 Chrome (50/56/60)
    P: Taylormade Spider X Tour - Blue/Small Slant
    B: Titleist ProV1
    Bag: Taylormade Flextech Crossover

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  • WIGolfWIGolf  24Members Posts: 24
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    I really enjoy TXG’s channel. Watch it a lot at night at work when it’s slow. I’m a firm believer in being fitted as well. Did wonders for me.

    That being said, I hated the ping G’s when I started out. Could not get along with the large heads and wide soles. Found that while player irons might punish me on poor strikes, the ball at least maintained some distance as opposed to an ugly chunk with the G’s.

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    @tsecor said:
    Did anyone see the youtube vid of the guy who was fit or a full bag of Mizuno clubs? It was a very well done video and the TXG guys called the MP-20 blades "Game improvement" for this guy.....was very interesting.

    I love the TXG videos because they are all about the results and they sometimes have some counter-intuitive stuff.

    For example, I am exactly like the guy that won (****!) in that I just hit narrow soled clubs better. Like him, my predominant miss tends to be a little fat and a narrow sole just works better for me.

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    Cobra F9 9* : Tour AD TP 7-S
    Cobra LTD set at 16* : Tour AD TP 8-S
    Cobra 3U set at 19.5* : Nippon Modus3 120-S
    Srixon Z785 4-PW : Nippon Modus3 120-S
    Cleveland RTX3 50, 54, 58 : Nippon 115-S Wedge
    Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1613Members Posts: 1,613
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    @noodle3872 said:
    I’m pretty sure TXG have gone to great lengths to pick artificial turf swatches that as closely as possible emulate real grass. In one regard, a mat will give more consistency than real grass if the range is anything like my local club’s pock marked, sandy shaggy range.

    I genuinely think the low bounce soles brushed on the mat fine and he’s going to take pelts behind the balls in soft Florida turf. Can you hit a hybrid off the deck without fatting it? That’s got a wide sole. Agree they do amazing work but I think it may have been different off grass. Moreover, directionally he hit the MMC much straighter. I’d have bent them 2 weak to add bounce and it may have produced a much better result.

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 4-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"
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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU  8448Members Posts: 8,448
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    I woud be concerned with on course performance as well. As a fitter I not think I would have gone that route but Ian is good at what he does. So what do I know.

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    Driver: Callaway Epic SubZero 3D 9*, Fujikura Ventus 7X
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Mizuno MP-18 MB Aldila RIP SLT Tour 115X Flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 52, 58, 64
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    @sphna12d said:
    Was I the only one who clicked on this thread hoping for a chance for a Mizuno bag fitting?

    exactly. major let down. reading through again, its a good thread, but that initial click bait broke my soul.

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  • ian-500ian-500  979Members Posts: 979
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    Just watched the driver fitting. Looking forward to the rest of the bag being fitted. Love TXG.

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    Ping G400 no.2 17* + Oban Kiyoshi White 95x.
    Epon AF-903 20 & 23 + OT Tour 120x.
    Epon AF-Tour 5i - PW + OT Tour 120x.
    Epon 208 KGX 53/59 + OT Tour 110x.
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    @herbert7890 said:
    I guess most here are golf gods and think are better than Ian as a fitter..........only in WRX......................SMH

    Nobody is saying that. Fact is he was still hitting it fat with the blades. I think hitting off real grass would have yielded different contact results with that miss.

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 4-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
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  • DFS PFDDFS PFD  1219Members Posts: 1,219
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    I doubt Ian is aware the turf interaction is different on a mat v real turf.

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    G410 LST  HZRDUS Smoke Hulk 6.5TX 60g 
    Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
    2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
    55* MG Raw Tour issue S400
    60* Hi-Toe Tour Issue S400
    TOULON Garage San Diego

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    @balls_deep said:

    @herbert7890 said:
    I guess most here are golf gods and think are better than Ian as a fitter..........only in WRX......................SMH

    Nobody is saying that. Fact is he was still hitting it fat with the blades. I think hitting off real grass would have yielded different contact results with that miss.

    Definitely true and has to be considered. However.... unless you're a country club guy or whatever... not many fitters, at least by me, offer real grass and turf. Maybe in warm weather states like FL or CA this is more common, but the "good" places to get fit like Club Champion or True Spec still use mats. That's why IMO a fitting isn't the full story, requires a bunch of rounds under your belt with the fit clubs to really see what works.

    At the end of the day, Ian has to fit Michael into Mizuno clubs (and current ones, too) so the MP blades were the best fit for him given the swing he brought that day. Plus, his contact overall didn't seem too fat... wasn't his smash like... 1.33 with the 6i? That's pretty good while using blades on GCQ. It may turn out these clubs aren't right for him in the long term but it's still a pretty cool thing... imagine getting an entire bag of any brand for free! Crazy stuff.

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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    UNDECIDED
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus Wedge 125
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS


  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 189Members Posts: 189
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    @DFS PFD said:
    I doubt Ian is aware the turf interaction is different on a mat v real turf.

    Are you joking now? One of the best fitters in the world wouldnt have thought of that? This thread is full of fun

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

  • DFS PFDDFS PFD  1219Members Posts: 1,219
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    @herbert7890 said:

    @DFS PFD said:
    I doubt Ian is aware the turf interaction is different on a mat v real turf.

    Are you joking now? One of the best fitters in the world wouldnt have thought of that? This thread is full of fun

    That was extreme sarcasm. I have complete and utter faith in Ian's fitting capabilities. I'm sure there are members on this board just as capable, but Ian is the one who actually had to do the fitting and make fitting decisions.

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    G410 LST  HZRDUS Smoke Hulk 6.5TX 60g 
    Epic Flash SZ 15* Tensei PW 80TX
    2-PW Ping Blueprint DG X7
    55* MG Raw Tour issue S400
    60* Hi-Toe Tour Issue S400
    TOULON Garage San Diego

  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 189Members Posts: 189
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    @DFS PFD said:

    @herbert7890 said:

    @DFS PFD said:
    I doubt Ian is aware the turf interaction is different on a mat v real turf.

    Are you joking now? One of the best fitters in the world wouldnt have thought of that? This thread is full of fun

    That was extreme sarcasm. I have complete and utter faith in Ian's fitting capabilities. I'm sure there are members on this board just as capable, but Ian is the one who actually had to do the fitting and make choices.

    oh hahaaah is so hard to get sarcasm over written words sometimes :blush: I totally agree with you!

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

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    Would have been interesting to see what he could have done with a different driver head

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  • CAT GOLFERCAT GOLFER  970Members Posts: 970
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    Saw the iron fitting and was surprised at the clubs selected. Does the improvement in contact trump any issues with potential poor striking days? Have modern blades gotten past the hit the sweet spot or else performance curve?

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    it just goes to show you marketing is only that......marketing...but lets also keep in mind the guy is an 8 hdcp, so he can make pretty good contact. a 20 hdcp wouldn't be fit into MP-20's.......BUT it kinda kills the whole blade debate as to who can use them effectively

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    @CAT GOLFER said:
    Saw the iron fitting and was surprised at the clubs selected. Does the improvement in contact trump any issues with potential poor striking days? Have modern blades gotten past the hit the sweet spot or else performance curve?

    I just hit MP20 two days ago for the first time, head to day against my gamers, the P770's. I gotta say.... I was suuuper surprised how easy the mp20's were to hit. Yes it was off a mat... but I wasn't getting killed by miss hits. I lost distance, but not more than I lost with 770s. Good hits were just... I can't even explain it. Those who game Mizuno get it. The feeling is unbeatable.

    What I liked best about the 20's was that feedback was very apparent but not punishing. Meaning, bad strikes sound and feel different, but it doesn't hurt (literally) and still feel nice. Solid, pured strikes are a whole new level of feel and you can immediately tell you pured it.

    The only big difference was my thin strikes did spin up quite a bit. However, I dont mind because I'm looking for more spin across the board. I'm willing to give up 3-4 yards for more stability in my flight because I tend to trap the ball and my misses are generally shut faced.

    With all that set, I immediately bought them. 770's go in the closet for now, might even just sell them because if I do feel the 20's are too much, I'll probably move to 760s.

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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    UNDECIDED
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus Wedge 125
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS


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