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Perfect performing but too ugly to game?

 Patrik1982 ·  
Patrik1982Patrik1982  44Members Posts: 44
Joined:  edited Nov 9, 2019 1:09pm in Equipment #1

Is it just me?

I currently game a 410 hybrid that has almost revolutionized my game - for the first time I can hit a hybrid straight. But it’s so darned ugly I’m seriously considering getting rid of it.

I know there’s a bunch of ’tools not jewels’ guys that’ll disapprove but surely somebody else is as superficial as me??

Please give me your stories. Need to be able to tell my lady there’s others like me to justify a new purchase!

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TM M3 10.5 (set @ 9) w Diamana Whiteboard 70
Ping g410 19 (set @ 17,5)  hybrid w Nippon 130
John Letters MM Prototype 3i bent to 23 w Nippon 130
Miura CB57 5-pw w Nippon 130
Vokey SM7 50F / 54S / 58S / 62M w Nippon 130 
Custom SC Laguna
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  • Tim SherwoodTim Sherwood  380Members Posts: 380
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    Taylormade R9 irons. I have bought, sold, regretted selling, bought again, sold and so on 3 times now. I love the cavity badging, feel and performance of those irons but every time I bring them back, I remember just how comically oversized they are and I can't play them. Shame really, they are a great product if they fit your eye.

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  • boggymanboggyman  2764Members Posts: 2,764
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    If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

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  • BubbtubbsBubbtubbs  547Members Posts: 547
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    Most of the stuff I think is hideous also doesn't perform (for me) as well as a player cavity or blade.

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  • uglandeuglande  218Members Posts: 218
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    I gamed and loved the Ping Ei1, but had to remove all the painfill to justify keeping them in the bag.

    Ping drivers are fantastic but the "turbulators" are gimmicky visual noise. (But I love the matte finish).

    Hands-down the ugliest line of clubs currently on the market are the TaylorMade GAPRs. Every time I hit them they perform. But they look so weird (they don't even look like golf clubs) and that awful sherbet color scheme. I just can't pull the trigger.

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    08.25 - TaylorMade M5 (Project X Hzrdus Yellow)
    13.50 - TaylorMade OO (Project X Hzrdus Yellow)
    16.50 - Titleist 917 F2 (Diamana White)
    21.00 - Titleist 917 F2 (Diamana White)
    23.00 - Titleist U-500 (Project X Hzrdus Black)

    45.00 - Titleist Vokey SM7-F
    50.00 - Titleist Vokey SM7-F
    54.00 - Titleist Vokey SM7-S
    60.00 - Titleist Vokey SM7-D
    Putter - TaylorMade Spider Center-Shafted
    Ball - Titleist ProV1x #68
  • KgglonghornKgglonghorn  99ClubWRX Posts: 99
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    pretty is as pretty does

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  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Summer/ Michigan-- Winter/ Florida 5280Members Posts: 5,280
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    Looks and performance go hand in hand.
    These are tools, not jewels !!

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    Play Golf.....Play Blades......Play Something Else.....Just Go Play.....

    4 HC
  • erikroerikro Massachusetts  667Members Posts: 667
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    I play G10 from 4 wood to sand wedge. Sure I like the look of MP 18 irons much better but I prefer a good score more than anything.

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  • ian-500ian-500  979Members Posts: 979
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    Taking performance out of it, I think you have to enjoy what you're looking at at address first. Secondly, if it doesn't perform as well as another that you don't really like the look of, can you then compromise for a happy medium.....?

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    Taylormade Original One 11.5* + Tensei CK Pro Blue 80tx.
    Ping G400 no.2 17* + Oban Kiyoshi White 95x.
    Epon AF-903 20 & 23 + OT Tour 120x.
    Epon AF-Tour 5i - PW + OT Tour 120x.
    Epon 208 KGX 53/59 + OT Tour 110x.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300.
  • NessismNessism To measure is to know...  18994Members Posts: 18,994
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    Looks is one the top club features for some players. Personally I think that's kind of dumb but do what you like.

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    Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver 60S
    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 5 wood w/Aldila Rogue Black 70S
    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 Hybrid w/Aldila Kuro Kage 80S
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S
    Ping Glide 50/55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
    Ping Anser/Arna putter - the "real deal!"
  • farmerfarmer  8261Members Posts: 8,261
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    These Pings work so well , but they are sooooo ugly. I'm selling the ugly little gomers. Sweetie, my new hybrids are prettier, but I can't keep them on the planet. Gotta try something new. Darling, I just can't find a good hybrid. There's a unicorn out there. Love Of My Life, I'm buying some Pings. Why, yes, in fact, I do think the kitchen needs remodeling.

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  • EmerichEmerich  130Members Posts: 130
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    I feel this way about some of those ridiculous new putters - for me I just don't want to look down and see that.

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  • ChipNRunChipNRun  1793Members Posts: 1,793
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    P1982...

    I fear we live on different planets. In my world there's no such thing as a club that performs perfectly but is too ugly to game.

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    What's In The Bag *...

    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr. |
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperHot - orange
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course and season.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
  • ProjectXProjectX I can a hit lob wedge 150...but only from a greenside bunker  1285Members Posts: 1,285
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    I've really been close to pulling the trigger on Ping irons in the past but for some reason I just can't stand the white line on the bottom groove. It makes me feel like I'm not lined up correctly and I can't get it out of my head. I'm sure they would perform fantastic for me, but just one of those things. So I get the too ugly to play thing.

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    Cobra F9 Speedback Driver 8* Diamana D+ LTD 70 TX
    Cobra F9 Tour Fairway 12.5* Diamana D+ LTD 80 TX
    Cobra F9 Tour Fairway 16.5* Diamana D+ LTD 90 TX
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3-5 KBS Tour C Taper X
    Mizuno MP 18 SC 6-9 KBS Tour C-Taper X
    Titleist Vokey SM7 Raw 46F, 48F, 50F, 54F & 60D KBS Tour C-Taper X
    SeeMore Nashville z3c Black Mallet
    Titleist Pro V1x...but testing every urethane ball on the market
  • GalangaGalanga  728Members Posts: 728
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    Dang, I love the way the 410 hybrids look.

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    • PingG400 Max 10.5; Ping Tour 65 S; 45.25”; D4.5
    • Ping G410 14.5 and 17.5; Project X Evenflow Blue 65 6.0; 43.25” and 42.25"; D2.5 / D3.5
    • Ping G410 22; Project X Evenflow Blue 85 6.0; 39.75”; D3.5
    • Ping Ping iBlades 5-PW; +1/2”; 2 flat; Recoil 110 F4; D4-6
    • Ping Glide Stealth 52SS, 54ES (56), and 58ES (60); 2 flat; all 36"; Recoil 125 F4; D5-7
    • Ping Y-Blade; 36.5/70






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  • BIG STUBIG STU  12023Members Posts: 12,023
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    I say it is subjective--- And I will be the first to tell you if I do not like the looks at address I more than likely can not and will not hit it. that changed for me about a year or so ago. I had always thought ALL hybrids were ugly. Now I could tolerate the early TM Rescues to some extent but they were hook machines. I ended up on a bulk trade deal acquiring an older Adams A-12 OS 23* with a Pro Launch Red shaft in it. That thing is fugly but I figured out with a hosel adjustment and some lead tape in the toe to make it anti hook for me. Like I said that thing is ugly but I love it and you would have to pry it from my cold dead fingers. A good friend of mine who is getting up in age but is still an accomplished player and lifetime PGA member told me " It does not matter what a club looks like if you can hit it and it works for you" I had sorta adopted that line of thought previously being brand agnostic but after that hybrid experiment I have also adopted his policy too.

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    Driver--- Honma G1-X Stock R shaft
    FW Adams Tight Lies 16* Mitsu Diamana R
    Hybrid Old Adams 22* Pro Force Red
    Irons 3 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex 2 shafts
    SW Mizuno T-10 forged S-400
    LW Cleveland 588 60*
    Putter (for now) Original Standard Acushnet Bullseye

  • grm24grm24 Western PA 3828Members Posts: 3,828
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    @boggyman said:
    If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

    Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

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  • boggymanboggyman  2764Members Posts: 2,764
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    Yep, I agree. We’ve got a set minus the PW I believe it is in stiff graphite that was passed on to us by a relative, even has the matching 2 iron. > @grm24 said:

    @boggyman said:
    If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

    Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

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  • alcap26alcap26  1362Charter Members Posts: 1,362
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    I still have the 16 degree (if memory serves me right) from the 845 set. Thought I could use it at the time but sadly could not.

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  • grm24grm24 Western PA 3828Members Posts: 3,828
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    @alcap26 said:
    I still have the 16 degree (if memory serves me right) from the 845 set. Thought I could use it at the time but sadly could not.

    The 845s 1 iron was 16*. Never had one though I did have one set (out of 4 sets of them) of the 845s that had the 2 iron.

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  • grm24grm24 Western PA 3828Members Posts: 3,828
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    @boggyman said:
    Yep, I agree. We’ve got a set minus the PW I believe it is in stiff graphite that was passed on to us by a relative, even has the matching 2 iron. > @grm24 said:

    @boggyman said:
    If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

    Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

    IIRC didn't the 845s go from the 16 degree 1 iron to the 60 degree W4 wedge? Imagine that a 13 club iron set! from 16 to 60 degrees!

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  • SpeedyProSpeedyPro  574Members Posts: 574
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    I built 4-9, PW, AW set of Bang Center Cut irons.
    I honestly think they are ugly. My buddies cannot agree more.

    But these irons are one of the best clubs I've ever used.

    So, I've built another set with different shaft.

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  • buntabunta  738Members Posts: 738
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    there's much uglier hybrids out there than 410s.

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    TS3 / s55 / SM7 / Juno
  • ZerpZerp  14Members Posts: 14
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    @Patrik1982 said:
    Is it just me?
    I know there’s a bunch of ’tools not jewels’ guys that’ll disapprove but surely somebody else is as superficial as me??

    I’m certain it is not just you. But myself, I would hit a couple of petrified goat nuts JB Welded to a crooked stick if the contraption was something that helped my game.

    @uglande said:
    Hands-down the ugliest line of clubs currently on the market are the TaylorMade GAPRs. Every time I hit them they perform. But they look so weird (they don't even look like golf clubs) and that awful sherbet color scheme. I just can't pull the trigger.

    I just bought the GAPR mid. I see nothing but black from address position.

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    Club details?
    I try not to be that attached.
    The depth of the lakes make them impossible to retrieve .

  • naj959naj959  1044Members Posts: 1,044
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    Ping G20 hybrids are some of the best I've ever hit but are hideous. Never could get over the look and put them in the bag. Still think about it from time to time because they really are that good. I think Mark Crossfield had them in the bag for awhile.

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  • 1Mordrid11Mordrid1  733Members Posts: 733
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    There are times when the look of a club can affect proper alignment to a player, or even cause a player to change their swing based on their perception of the way the club looks at address. But if the club is just not attractive to your eye, but does not have these alignment issues, and you admittedly hit it well, I just can not see why you would take it out of play. Especially when you admit you have a history of struggling with hybrids. What are the odds of finding a second "unicorn" hybrid quickly?

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    PXG  0811x Oban Tour Limited 04
    Callaway Rogue 4 wood w/ Oban Kiyoshi White 4 65g
    Nike Sasquatch Sumo #4 hybrid(cut down 1") w/ H Diamana s
    Srixon U65 20° Miyazaki Kaula 7 s
    PXG 0211 irons 5-G True Temper Elevate 95 S (1°flat 1°weak D4)
    PING Glide 3.0 TS 56/ KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 115
    PING Glide 3.0 SS 60/KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 115
    PXG 400 gram Bat Attack putter(double bend shaft)
    Snell MTB Black
  • NorbooNorboo  2278Members Posts: 2,278
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    Anything white head and white shaft TaylorMade put out. So freaking fugly!

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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
    Fairway Wood: Ryoma F3 and F5
    Hybrid: Ping G400 3 & 5
    Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
    Wedge: Cleveland CBX2 50, RTX4 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
    Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
    Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993
  • jvincentjvincent  1005Members Posts: 1,005
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    @grm24 said:

    @boggyman said:
    Yep, I agree. We’ve got a set minus the PW I believe it is in stiff graphite that was passed on to us by a relative, even has the matching 2 iron. > @grm24 said:

    @boggyman said:
    If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

    Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

    IIRC didn't the 845s go from the 16 degree 1 iron to the 60 degree W4 wedge? Imagine that a 13 club iron set! from 16 to 60 degrees!

    Lots of love/hate for the 845s.

    I had 2i through W4, minus the gap wedge, when I stopped playing mine. After a while I just couldn't stand looking at the offset.

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    Cobra F9 9* : Tour AD TP 7-S
    Cobra LTD set at 16* : Tour AD TP 8-S
    Cobra 3U set at 19.5* : Nippon Modus3 120-S
    Srixon Z785 4-PW : Nippon Modus3 120-S
    Cleveland RTX3 50, 54, 58 : Nippon 115-S Wedge
    Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

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  • TPG1971TPG1971 Don't Get Rolled  971Members Posts: 971
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    What does "game" mean? Does that mean to play something?

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    PING G30 9.5 Fujikura Speeder Pro XLR8 63 Stiff
    Titleist 917F 16.5 Diamana Blue Stiff
    PING G410 19* Hybrid Mitsubishi CK Pro Blue 80 Stiff
    PING I200 4-PW Red Dot AWT 2.0 R Hard Stepped once
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth Red Dot AWT Wedge Flex
    RTX-3 54 bent to 55 DG Ti Onyx S400
    Wilson Staff PMP 58* DG S200
    Cameron 009 A012056
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