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Patrik1982Patrik1982 Members  79WRX Points: 45Posts: 79 Fairways
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Is it just me?

I currently game a 410 hybrid that has almost revolutionized my game - for the first time I can hit a hybrid straight. But it’s so darned ugly I’m seriously considering getting rid of it.

I know there’s a bunch of ’tools not jewels’ guys that’ll disapprove but surely somebody else is as superficial as me??

Please give me your stories. Need to be able to tell my lady there’s others like me to justify a new purchase!

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  • Tim SherwoodTim Sherwood Members  425WRX Points: 145Handicap: HighPosts: 425 Greens
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    Taylormade R9 irons. I have bought, sold, regretted selling, bought again, sold and so on 3 times now. I love the cavity badging, feel and performance of those irons but every time I bring them back, I remember just how comically oversized they are and I can't play them. Shame really, they are a great product if they fit your eye.

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  • boggymanboggyman Members  3026WRX Points: 413Posts: 3,026 Titanium Tees
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    If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

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  • BubbtubbsBubbtubbs Members  571WRX Points: 146Handicap: 7Posts: 571 Golden Tee
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    Most of the stuff I think is hideous also doesn't perform (for me) as well as a player cavity or blade.

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  • uglandeuglande Members  493WRX Points: 334Posts: 493 Greens
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    I gamed and loved the Ping Ei1, but had to remove all the painfill to justify keeping them in the bag.

    Ping drivers are fantastic but the "turbulators" are gimmicky visual noise. (But I love the matte finish).

    Hands-down the ugliest line of clubs currently on the market are the TaylorMade GAPRs. Every time I hit them they perform. But they look so weird (they don't even look like golf clubs) and that awful sherbet color scheme. I just can't pull the trigger.

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  • KgglonghornKgglonghorn ClubWRX  204WRX Points: 83Handicap: 2Posts: 204 Fairways
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    pretty is as pretty does

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  • puttingmattputtingmatt puttingmatt Summer/ Michigan-- Winter/ FloridaMembers  5556WRX Points: 539Handicap: 6.3 HCIPosts: 5,556 Titanium Tees
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    Looks and performance go hand in hand.
    These are tools, not jewels !!

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  • erikroerikro Massachusetts Members  708WRX Points: 166Posts: 708 Golden Tee
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    I play G10 from 4 wood to sand wedge. Sure I like the look of MP 18 irons much better but I prefer a good score more than anything.

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  • ian-500ian-500 Members  1086WRX Points: 292Handicap: 12Posts: 1,086 Platinum Tees
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    Taking performance out of it, I think you have to enjoy what you're looking at at address first. Secondly, if it doesn't perform as well as another that you don't really like the look of, can you then compromise for a happy medium.....?

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    Looks is one the top club features for some players. Personally I think that's kind of dumb but do what you like.

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    These Pings work so well , but they are sooooo ugly. I'm selling the ugly little gomers. Sweetie, my new hybrids are prettier, but I can't keep them on the planet. Gotta try something new. Darling, I just can't find a good hybrid. There's a unicorn out there. Love Of My Life, I'm buying some Pings. Why, yes, in fact, I do think the kitchen needs remodeling.

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  • EmerichEmerich Members  136WRX Points: 48Handicap: 9.1Posts: 136 Fairways
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    I feel this way about some of those ridiculous new putters - for me I just don't want to look down and see that.

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  • ChipNRunChipNRun Members  2496WRX Points: 622Posts: 2,496 Platinum Tees
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    P1982...

    I fear we live on different planets. In my world there's no such thing as a club that performs perfectly but is too ugly to game.

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    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr.  | Note: MD4 58°/8.C-grind may replace MD/PM
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperHot - orange
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course and season.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
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    I've really been close to pulling the trigger on Ping irons in the past but for some reason I just can't stand the white line on the bottom groove. It makes me feel like I'm not lined up correctly and I can't get it out of my head. I'm sure they would perform fantastic for me, but just one of those things. So I get the too ugly to play thing.

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  • GalangaGalanga Members  759WRX Points: 122Handicap: 4-6Posts: 759 Golden Tee
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    Dang, I love the way the 410 hybrids look.

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    • BIG STUBIG STU Members  13207WRX Points: 4,330Handicap: 5.0Posts: 13,207 Titanium Tees
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      I say it is subjective--- And I will be the first to tell you if I do not like the looks at address I more than likely can not and will not hit it. that changed for me about a year or so ago. I had always thought ALL hybrids were ugly. Now I could tolerate the early TM Rescues to some extent but they were hook machines. I ended up on a bulk trade deal acquiring an older Adams A-12 OS 23* with a Pro Launch Red shaft in it. That thing is fugly but I figured out with a hosel adjustment and some lead tape in the toe to make it anti hook for me. Like I said that thing is ugly but I love it and you would have to pry it from my cold dead fingers. A good friend of mine who is getting up in age but is still an accomplished player and lifetime PGA member told me " It does not matter what a club looks like if you can hit it and it works for you" I had sorta adopted that line of thought previously being brand agnostic but after that hybrid experiment I have also adopted his policy too.

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      On -, @boggyman said:

      If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

      Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

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    • boggymanboggyman Members  3026WRX Points: 413Posts: 3,026 Titanium Tees
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      Yep, I agree. We’ve got a set minus the PW I believe it is in stiff graphite that was passed on to us by a relative, even has the matching 2 iron. >

      On -, @grm24 said:

      On -, @boggyman said:

      If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

      Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

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    • alcap26alcap26 Charter Members  1402WRX Points: 147Posts: 1,402 Platinum Tees
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      I still have the 16 degree (if memory serves me right) from the 845 set. Thought I could use it at the time but sadly could not.

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      On -, @alcap26 said:

      I still have the 16 degree (if memory serves me right) from the 845 set. Thought I could use it at the time but sadly could not.

      The 845s 1 iron was 16*. Never had one though I did have one set (out of 4 sets of them) of the 845s that had the 2 iron.

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      On -, @boggyman said:

      Yep, I agree. We’ve got a set minus the PW I believe it is in stiff graphite that was passed on to us by a relative, even has the matching 2 iron. >
      On -, @grm24 said:

      On -, @boggyman said:

      If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

      Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

      IIRC didn't the 845s go from the 16 degree 1 iron to the 60 degree W4 wedge? Imagine that a 13 club iron set! from 16 to 60 degrees!

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      I built 4-9, PW, AW set of Bang Center Cut irons.
      I honestly think they are ugly. My buddies cannot agree more.

      But these irons are one of the best clubs I've ever used.

      So, I've built another set with different shaft.

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    • buntabunta Members  833WRX Points: 487Posts: 833 Golden Tee
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      there's much uglier hybrids out there than 410s.

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      On -, @Patrik1982 said:

      Is it just me?
      I know there’s a bunch of ’tools not jewels’ guys that’ll disapprove but surely somebody else is as superficial as me??

      I’m certain it is not just you. But myself, I would hit a couple of petrified goat nuts JB Welded to a crooked stick if the contraption was something that helped my game.

      On -, @uglande said:

      Hands-down the ugliest line of clubs currently on the market are the TaylorMade GAPRs. Every time I hit them they perform. But they look so weird (they don't even look like golf clubs) and that awful sherbet color scheme. I just can't pull the trigger.

      I just bought the GAPR mid. I see nothing but black from address position.

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      Club details?
      I try not to be that attached.
      The depth of the lakes make them impossible to retrieve .

    • naj959naj959 Members  1146WRX Points: 173Posts: 1,146 Platinum Tees
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      Ping G20 hybrids are some of the best I've ever hit but are hideous. Never could get over the look and put them in the bag. Still think about it from time to time because they really are that good. I think Mark Crossfield had them in the bag for awhile.

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    • 1Mordrid11Mordrid1 Members  1014WRX Points: 398Posts: 1,014 Platinum Tees
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      There are times when the look of a club can affect proper alignment to a player, or even cause a player to change their swing based on their perception of the way the club looks at address. But if the club is just not attractive to your eye, but does not have these alignment issues, and you admittedly hit it well, I just can not see why you would take it out of play. Especially when you admit you have a history of struggling with hybrids. What are the odds of finding a second "unicorn" hybrid quickly?

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    • NorbooNorboo Members  2347WRX Points: 159Handicap: 12Posts: 2,347 Platinum Tees
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      Anything white head and white shaft TaylorMade put out. So freaking fugly!

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      On -, @grm24 said:

      On -, @boggyman said:

      Yep, I agree. We’ve got a set minus the PW I believe it is in stiff graphite that was passed on to us by a relative, even has the matching 2 iron. >
      On -, @grm24 said:

      On -, @boggyman said:

      If it works, who cares what it looks like? My current gamers are from the early 90’s. They’re not new or the latest iron but just flat out work!!

      Agreed. From time to time I'll play my Tommy Armour 845s irons. Not great to look at but they perform. One of the best CB irons of all time but and also one of the least attractive.

      IIRC didn't the 845s go from the 16 degree 1 iron to the 60 degree W4 wedge? Imagine that a 13 club iron set! from 16 to 60 degrees!

      Lots of love/hate for the 845s.

      I had 2i through W4, minus the gap wedge, when I stopped playing mine. After a while I just couldn't stand looking at the offset.

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      What does "game" mean? Does that mean to play something?

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