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  • simonndsimonnd  53WRX Points: 29Members Posts: 53
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    Cobra Fly-Z Forged and Mizuno Mp-53 are soft and forgiving.

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  • SwingingkSwingingk  635WRX Points: 161ClubWRX Posts: 635
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    1971-72 Wilson Staff Dynapower "Buttonback" irons with original Ultralite shafts in flex of choice are true buttery butterness. Wilson Staff Fg17 irons are actually made of butter. Fg59's are so buttery you'll slip right out of your stance and fall flat on the butter covered t-box. Your new Nike shirt will be all stained with the excessive butter. Your wife will wonder why you've come home after your round all greasy and covered with butter. She'll understand when you tell her you've been playing with old Staff blades....

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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy  2095WRX Points: 145Members Posts: 2,095
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    Mizuno are always great. Yonex are soft too, especially with the insert.

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  • aquapigaquapig  328WRX Points: 158Members Posts: 328
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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1782WRX Points: 1,013Members Posts: 1,782
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    Those X-BL are gorgeous. I'd love to get my hands on a set. Wow.

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4i Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 5i-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"/Bettinardi Kuchar 1 Armlock
    Pro V1x/TP5x/Tour BXS/MTB-X
    Currently - 5.1

  • SEP1006SEP1006 Pearland, Tx. 1169WRX Points: 257ClubWRX Posts: 1,169
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    PXG GEN 2 for sure!!

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    DRIVER -    Taylor Made M6 10.5 * | Ventus 6s
    3 WD -       Taylor Made M6 Rocket | Atmos Orange Stiff 
    HYBRIDS - PXG Gen 2 -  2 / 3 / 4 Hybrids | Accra Tour 90i Stiff
    IRONS -     PXG Gen 3 -  0311P 5 - GW | Accra Tour 100i Stiff
    WEDGES - Ping Stealth Glide 2.0 54-12 / 58-06 Wedges | Wedge Flex
    GRIPS -      JumboMax Medium Ultralight grips on ALL 
    PUTTER -   PXG Gunboat H 
    BAG -         PXG Staff Bag
    BALLS -     Snell MTB Black / Pro V1




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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolina 28915WRX Points: 5,403Members Posts: 28,915
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    If you haven’t hit a raw Kyoei forging , you haven’t hit the softest. Look for Vega or Yururi brands for their most known irons. You can’t imagine how soft. You have to hit them to believe it.

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    Ping G410  11.2* Tensei pro OrangeV2 proto 70TX 
    Ping G410 15.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Ping G410 21* ADDI 105x 
    Ping Blueprint  3- PW   Modus 130X 
    Ping Glide Forged  54 60 s400
    Cameron GSS 1.5 009. Sound slot,  tungsten weights. 


  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1782WRX Points: 1,013Members Posts: 1,782
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    How do you find your Blueprints off the face compared to some of the better JDM or Mizuno forgings?

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4i Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 5i-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"/Bettinardi Kuchar 1 Armlock
    Pro V1x/TP5x/Tour BXS/MTB-X
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  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolina 28915WRX Points: 5,403Members Posts: 28,915
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    They are quite similar to the solid Miura feel. But in my opinion neither miura nor blueprint is soft.


    i was spoiled on a raw set of Vega early. Then another raw set of vdc-01 Vegas. When hit middle it feels like a Balata ball hit with a pillow. Not kidding.

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    Ping G410  11.2* Tensei pro OrangeV2 proto 70TX 
    Ping G410 15.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Ping G410 21* ADDI 105x 
    Ping Blueprint  3- PW   Modus 130X 
    Ping Glide Forged  54 60 s400
    Cameron GSS 1.5 009. Sound slot,  tungsten weights. 


  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1782WRX Points: 1,013Members Posts: 1,782
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    I agree re: Miura feel. Very dense and powerful feeling. Extremely addicting and satisfying but not at all similar to the marshmallow feeling you get with something like the MP20. I'm not sure which I prefer to be honest...

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4i Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 5i-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"/Bettinardi Kuchar 1 Armlock
    Pro V1x/TP5x/Tour BXS/MTB-X
    Currently - 5.1

  • Nard_SNard_S  3648WRX Points: 644Members Posts: 3,648
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    I actually prefer dense to butter. More Miura less Mizuno. Like Titleist's and Hogan's too. Love a bit of "rifle crack" to impact. Mac-Cobra's have that in spades, so do older Hogan's. Think highly of Endo made clubs too. 99 Apex, VR Pro's & FG 59 are all exceptional feeling clubs. I'm a big fan of dowel embedded irons. 681's probably last OEM offering to have them, rate very high with me. I'm re-shafting several sets this winter, they will all get hickory dowels even the TP 2000's which are TN87's with champagne chrome finish. Guess I'll get dense butter then, lol.

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  • IL2AZIL2AZ  319WRX Points: 73Members Posts: 319
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    The Bridgestone Tour B X-CB are the best feeling irons I have ever played with the chunk of mass directly behind the sweet spot. My old Mizuno MP 64s would be the runner up.

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    Taylormade Tour Issue 2016 M2 8.5 Kuro Kage XT 60TX
    Ping G410 LST 10.5 Ventus 6X
    Ping G400 LST 8.5 Diamana BF 60TX
    Taylormade Tour Issue 2016 M2 3HL Diamana BF 70x
    Taylormade M3 5W Aldila Rogue Black 80X
    PXG 0311X 3-5 Project X HC Even Flow Blue 6.0
    Bridgestone Tour B X-CB 6-PW KBS Tour 120
    Vokey SM6 50F, 54S, 60S
    Ping Scottsdale Anser Antique Finish Tungsten Weights to 350G
    Scotty Cameron 08 Studio Select Newport 2
    Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless NP2 350
  • JonesyJonesy Durban, South Africa 1559WRX Points: 146Members Posts: 1,559
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    FG62's and 588MB's to throw some curve balls in there

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    Callaway Optiforce 440 9.5*
    Taylormade Rocketballz tour 18*
    Mizuno MP H-4 2 iron
    Callaway X Prototype 4 - PW
    Cleveland 50* Mizuno 54* 58* MP-T11
    Scotty Cameron Newport
  • Coop_Scoop12Coop_Scoop12  59WRX Points: 43Members Posts: 59
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    Miuras (cb57) paired with a modus shaft=pure butter. Its a soft feeling head that produces a solid thud at impact.

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  • StonewalledStonewalled  1596WRX Points: 148Members Posts: 1,596
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    You have a good eye for irons Balls Deep. I had a look at those as well after reading Easyyy's description, they do look fantastic.

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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to Canada 13043WRX Points: 1,976Members Posts: 13,043
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    here are some of my favorite blade irons, some newer and some older

    The BEST feel IMO .. by quite a margin, is the first set listed:

    Bridgestone j15 mb's

    Mizuno Mp37, Mp33

    Callaway x-proto's

    Ping blueprints, s55

    Miura tournament blades

    Titleist 620mb's

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    Ping G400 LST 11* Oban Revenge 65 06
    Callaway Xhot 3 Deep 14.5* Fubuki 73x
    Callaway GBB 5w 17* Aldila NVS 85x 
    Callaway Apex v1 3h 20* AD DI 95x
    Cally Apex v1 5h 26* Apache MFS 85x
    Mizuno 919T 6-G UST Recoil 95 f4 
    Vokey sm2 54*m & 59*m TVD 
    Callaway PM 64* UST 110 f4
    Yes Donna

    '19 Index 0.9 ~ 3.7
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  • golfjamgolfjam  573WRX Points: 92Members Posts: 573
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    Mizuno MP-5. I've tried Miuras and they're overrated.

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    Ping G400 LST 8.5 Fuji Speeder Evo II 661 X
    Callaway XR16 15 Fuji Speeder TS 7.2 S 
    TaylorMade P790 UDI 2 Fuji Pro Blue 83 X
    Srixon Z Forged 4-PW PX 6.5
    Ping Glide 3 Eye2 54/60 X100
    Bettinardi Queen Bee #6
  • scooterhd2scooterhd2  500WRX Points: 107Members Posts: 500
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    cobra s3 pros.

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  • LaznastyLaznasty Valparaiso, Indiana 754WRX Points: 181Members Posts: 754
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    EPON

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    Ping G410+
    Callaway GBB Epic 5W 
    Titleist 910H
    Taylormade P790 4i-Aw
    EPON Tour Spin Wedge 54° 58°
    Lamb Crafted Camden
  • Gman70Gman70  133WRX Points: 23Members Posts: 133
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    Bridgestone J15 mb

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  • IamMarkMacIamMarkMac SF Bay Area 735WRX Points: 244Members Posts: 735
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    This topic really needs to be divided into JDM and USDM. It's not fair to expect USDM to compete.

    Like Butter-

    JDM: Epon

    USDM: Mizuno

    Solid feel-

    JDM: Miura

    USDM: Callaway (although admittedly, I haven't tried a lot of USDM)

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    Bag 1                                                                 Bag 2
    Ping G400 LST 10                                             Epon Technicity 9
    Ping G400 3W 14.5                                          TM R9 3W 14
    Ping G400 3H 19                                              Miura 3H 19
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-P               Epon 503 4-P Nippon Super Peening Orange
    Mizuno s18 50, 54, 58                                     Miura 51, 56 k-grind
    Bettinardi BB1                                                  Scotty Cameron Newport 2
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  • DixieDDixieD  190WRX Points: 68Members Posts: 190
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    X Forged 13 and Nike VR pro combos are the softest i have hit. Was shocked by the nikes as I was expecting nothing special and was blown away by the feel of them. Have had a few Mizuno's, mp64 being my favourite but not overly soft for me.

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  • Krt22Krt22 East Bay 8242WRX Points: 2,014Members Posts: 8,242
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    Mizuno is a Japanese company. Epon is just Endo's house brand, they provide forgings to many other OEMs.

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  • Sean2Sean2  30958WRX Points: 189Members Posts: 30,958
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    This is so subjective. One man's butter is another man's margarine.

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  • lawsonmanlawsonman Freeport, Illinois 5829WRX Points: 1,094Members Posts: 5,829
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    I wonder what irons feel the most like cream cheese?😉

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    Ping G400 driver
    Ping Anser 17,20,23 Hybrids 
    Mizuno MP 20SEL 6-PW
    Ping,54,58ES Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Newport 3


    Snell MTB X
  • lyons107lyons107  38WRX Points: 18Members Posts: 38
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    The TM P770's feel real soft to me.

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  • PepperturboPepperturbo Midwest and Southwest 16148WRX Points: 603Members Posts: 16,148
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    Titleist TS2 9.5, Fujikura Fuel Tour Spec 60 "S"
    Titleist TS2 16.5* D.Blueboard 83 x5ct,"S"
    Titleist T-MB 17* 2 iron, Steelfiber i95cw "S"
    Titleist 620 CB/MB 3i-PW, Steelfiber i110cw "S"
    SM6 F-52*, Steelfiber i110cw "R"
    SM6 M-58*, DG-S200
    SC California Monterey
    ProV1x


  • mahoniemahonie England 2677WRX Points: 370Members Posts: 2,677
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    MP4s are soft but also have ‘feel’ - you know exactly where the ball is going at impact. My Mac MT Pro-Cs are softer but not necessarily better butter.

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    Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Fubuki ZT Stiff
    MD Golf Superstrong 3-wood UST Proforce 65 Stiff
    Wilson Staff FG Tour M3 21* Hybrid Aldila RIP Stiff
    Mizuno MP4 4-PW DG S300
    Wilson Staff PMP wedges 50/54/58 KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
    Radius Classic 8
  • juststevejuststeve  4947WRX Points: 396Members Posts: 4,947
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    I've never been able to detect these differences in softness that ohers talk about. No matter what irons I'm playing they feel good when I hit them out of the middle, and kind of crappy when I don't.


    Steve

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  • PepperturboPepperturbo Midwest and Southwest 16148WRX Points: 603Members Posts: 16,148
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    Whether JDM or USDM, its about the process and material used by each OEM to make club heads. No, we don't need two categories. Titleist and Callaway and other OEM's have had certain club heads made in Japan and China, and and famous Epon has some made in Thailand. A while back Titleist had blades made in Japan for Tiger and other tour players. It's not the company name but the chosen materials, desired process and price, all of which dictate which facility on account they are limited in number.

    We can't argue what's butter and what isn't as "Butter" is completely subjective. Our Feel which is based on the touch sensors in our hands and skin detect vibration intensity. Touch is a perception resulting from activation of receptors in the skin or fingers, throat and tongue, toes, and many other areas across the skin surface. Pressure receptors respond to impact, brushing, sustained grip, and vibrations, etc. Sound adds to the measure by determining level and depth of tone.

    Also we know medically, when those touch and pressure sensors in the hands are damaged, feeling in one's hands are not acute as the sensors in another persons undamaged hands. A mechanic or fireman that uses tools or hauls equipment daily is more likely to have damaged sensors than a surgeon that wears two-golf gloves when playing golf. Simply speaking, what someone thinks is butter may very well be boring margarine. 😂

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    Titleist TS2 9.5, Fujikura Fuel Tour Spec 60 "S"
    Titleist TS2 16.5* D.Blueboard 83 x5ct,"S"
    Titleist T-MB 17* 2 iron, Steelfiber i95cw "S"
    Titleist 620 CB/MB 3i-PW, Steelfiber i110cw "S"
    SM6 F-52*, Steelfiber i110cw "R"
    SM6 M-58*, DG-S200
    SC California Monterey
    ProV1x


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