Softest irons ive ever played are the maxfli revolutions or the maxfli a10. Im Currently playing a set of snake eyes 600b and there up there with mp14s I've played and the ken Venturi pg-64 irons are sweet as well.
I would say along with Mizuno, Epon and Yonex are best for buttery soft. The Yonex “heat vacuum treatment” they are using on their forged heads definitely enhances their soft feel. Miura has a more “dense” feel that is indeed powerful and feels great. All four of these companies produce their forged heads in Japan.
My Hogan Apex Plus circa 99 are very buttery through the ball. I believe they are from Epon. I currently game P790's . The other day I used them back to back with Hogans at the range . It wasn't even close, but its not exactly apples to apples.
JDM vs USDM, I didn't mean Japanese company vs US company, I meant domestic market offering. Mizuno's US products are most butter for me for the US and they don't have the same products in Japan as the US. By the same token, US companies have some products that they offer in Japan that they don't in the US (Callaway Legacy Black comes to mind).
And Endo may provide forgings to other OEMs but it doesn't mean that those forgings are of the same quality as what they produce for themselves under their Epon brand.
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Wishon 919THI 11* S2S Black 65 S Wishon 929HS 14* S2S White S Wishon 775HS 21* S2S Black Hybrids S Wishon 575MMC Forged 4-A Superlight steel S Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 54* & 60* Wishon S2R #1 Putter
TaylorMade M3 9.5° w/ Tour Issue PXHandcrafted EvenFlow Black 6.5
TaylorMade '08 Burner 14.5° w/ p9003X
TaylorMade '08 Burner 17.5° w/ p9003TX
Srixon ZTX-II 3-PW w/ Modus Nippon Modus Prototype ORA X (3I has an E11 Proto in Stiff)
Cleveland 588 RTX CB 52° w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S
Srixon WG-706 56° w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S
Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter
MP14's, MP29's, MP33's, Bridgestone J33s, Cleveland Tour Action Blades (or the CG1's), Srixon 785's.. I have a few sets of Titleist Blades as well but they are not nearly as soft as the ones I have listed. I'm sure there are others but I have played all of these a ton over the years.
This is the biggest misconception about forged VS. non, and so this thread is already doomed, but any iron out of the center is going to feel smooth and soft so long as you aren't playing a Pinnacle or Top Flite as your gamer ball... My S55s feel incredible when middled, different than others but I could easily describe them as buttery soft. A club does not have to be forged to produce exceptional feel, though it can help in certain instances.
That said, I have played A LOT of different iron sets over the last couple of years and almost anything Bridgestone has been consistently impressive in the feel department for me. Older MPs are good, but I don't see the hype, Titleist forgings are nice, but different, and Srixon is right up there with some of the best also. This all comes down to personal preference obviously but all the OEM seem to be stepping up their game in the feel dept.
To be honest I don't have an extensive history with irons. However, I came from a Nike Pro Combo set then went with the Mizuno MP20 MMCs and they feel excellent.
Wilson FG Tour V6. Surprised I haven't seen them mentioned yet, but as far as more recent irons go, Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 is the definition of "butter." I bought a set last year (to my own surprise!). I had always wanted Mizunos because, you know, "Nothing feels like a Mizuno." But I tested every club they made as well as everything offered from Callaway, Titleist, Srixon, Bridgestone, etc. Every company made something very nice (the 2019 Callaway Apex Pros, Bridgestones, and the Srixon 785s in particular). But, the Wilson V6's were the best feeling and softest every time for me. Even when a salesman tried to remind me of the Mizuno tagline and assure me that the Mizuno metal was softer, my hands and ears would tell a different story. (Granted, this was with MB 18's and I have heard a Mizuno rep praise the feel of the new MB 20's over the 18's.) If you haven't tried the Wlson V6's and you're looking for butter on a stick, I would encourage you to look past your biases and give them a go.
Cobra F9 Avalanche 9° with GD AD-iZ 7X<br />GBB 3-wood with Regio 70x<br />Rogue 5-wood with Aldila Green 70S<br />Srixon U65 23° with Nippon 120X<br />Cobra Forged Tec Black OL 5 & 6 and VL 7-PW $-Taper 125’s<br />Callaway Forged Black 54° and 58° PM Grind/ Nippon 115X Wedge<br />Bettinardi Stock 8<br />TP5
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Srixon 785's w/G P MCC plus 4
Mizuno T 7 52 MP T7 56 &60
Bobby Grace SNYPER 46"
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Softest irons ive ever played are the maxfli revolutions or the maxfli a10. Im Currently playing a set of snake eyes 600b and there up there with mp14s I've played and the ken Venturi pg-64 irons are sweet as well.
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softest for me apex pro 14
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My Nike VR Pro Combo’s were soft, but I think my Mizuno mp18’s take the cake. When your hitting them well, you can’t even feel the strike.
Nike SQ2 19 hybrid Aldila VS Proto
Mizuno MP18 4-6 SC, 7-PW MB C-Taper 120s
Vokey SM6 50-10, SM7 54-14 & 58-04
Studio Select NP2
Custom 2015 Scotty GOLO 3
Scotty M2 (Gamer)
Scotty T22 Teryllium 1.5 FB
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I would say along with Mizuno, Epon and Yonex are best for buttery soft. The Yonex “heat vacuum treatment” they are using on their forged heads definitely enhances their soft feel. Miura has a more “dense” feel that is indeed powerful and feels great. All four of these companies produce their forged heads in Japan.
Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
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My Hogan Apex Plus circa 99 are very buttery through the ball. I believe they are from Epon. I currently game P790's . The other day I used them back to back with Hogans at the range . It wasn't even close, but its not exactly apples to apples.
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Ping G irons
Cobra King F9 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
Callaway Apex 20 w/Diamana D+ 95
Ping G410 4-SW w/S300
Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/S300
Odyssey O-works Red Tank #7
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cant be serious right? They are amazing irons but Ping G irons are not known for their soft feel at all. They are not even forged.
Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2
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To me they are like butter . However I eat frozen butter spread over cold toast.
Cobra King F9 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
Callaway Apex 20 w/Diamana D+ 95
Ping G410 4-SW w/S300
Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/S300
Odyssey O-works Red Tank #7
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I inherited a set of Epons. I would put any of their offerings on a list for best feeling irons.
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Epons for me, everybody else is playing for second place !!!
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JDM vs USDM, I didn't mean Japanese company vs US company, I meant domestic market offering. Mizuno's US products are most butter for me for the US and they don't have the same products in Japan as the US. By the same token, US companies have some products that they offer in Japan that they don't in the US (Callaway Legacy Black comes to mind).
And Endo may provide forgings to other OEMs but it doesn't mean that those forgings are of the same quality as what they produce for themselves under their Epon brand.
Ping G400 LST 10 Epon Technicity 9
Ping G400 3W 14.5 TM R9 3W 14
Ping G400 3H 19 Miura 3H 19
Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-P Epon 503 4-P Nippon Super Peening Orange
Mizuno s18 50, 54, 58 Miura 51, 56 k-grind
Bettinardi BB1 Scotty Cameron Newport 2
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Wishon 575MMC is a very soft 5 step forged 1035c carbon steel. Outstanding quality.
Wishon 919THI 11* S2S Black 65 S
Wishon 929HS 14* S2S White S
Wishon 775HS 21* S2S Black Hybrids S
Wishon 575MMC Forged 4-A Superlight steel S
Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 54* & 60*
Wishon S2R #1 Putter
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Mp59 still feel the heat to me, but maybe just what I'm used to..
Driver: G400max. 9* Kuro Kage DC TINI 70x
3W: Great Big Bertha 15*. Fujikara Pro Tour spec 83x
3i: Bridgestone tour B X-HI KBS prototype 83x
4-PW: Mizzuno MP-59 KBS Ctaper 130x
Wedges: Glide 2.0 50, 55, 60 (all SS) DG tour issue S400
Putter Odyssey 7s 34"
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i would have to say in no particular order
TN87
MP29
Apex 99
T Stamp 681
MR23
Apex Pro 19 dot
and thennnnn pretty much anything Miura as well!
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Srixon z745/945
Mizuno hardos are an unrivaled bunch when it comes to homering how soft the irons are so they'll never admit it when it comes to this topic.
I've played a set of MP5s and MP18s and while they are soft the feel just doesn't stack up to the Srixons.
Crucify me Mizuno hardos.
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Forged blades in general but my favorite are Cleveland 588 MB (even softer go back to the CMM metal irons, CG1/CG2.)
Mizuno offerings.
Honma TW-747/X.
Wilson staff forged / FG Tour 100.
Srixon irons.
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TaylorMade M3 9.5° w/ Tour Issue PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 6.5
TaylorMade '08 Burner 14.5° w/ p9003X
TaylorMade '08 Burner 17.5° w/ p9003TX
Srixon ZTX-II 3-PW w/ Modus Nippon Modus Prototype ORA X (3I has an E11 Proto in Stiff)
Cleveland 588 RTX CB 52° w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S
Srixon WG-706 56° w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S
Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter
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My grandfather has a set of old MacGregor blades. Took them to the range for fun, and was surprised how good they felt in perfect strikes.
Driver: G400max. 9* Kuro Kage DC TINI 70x
3W: Great Big Bertha 15*. Fujikara Pro Tour spec 83x
3i: Bridgestone tour B X-HI KBS prototype 83x
4-PW: Mizzuno MP-59 KBS Ctaper 130x
Wedges: Glide 2.0 50, 55, 60 (all SS) DG tour issue S400
Putter Odyssey 7s 34"
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MP14's, MP29's, MP33's, Bridgestone J33s, Cleveland Tour Action Blades (or the CG1's), Srixon 785's.. I have a few sets of Titleist Blades as well but they are not nearly as soft as the ones I have listed. I'm sure there are others but I have played all of these a ton over the years.
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This is the biggest misconception about forged VS. non, and so this thread is already doomed, but any iron out of the center is going to feel smooth and soft so long as you aren't playing a Pinnacle or Top Flite as your gamer ball... My S55s feel incredible when middled, different than others but I could easily describe them as buttery soft. A club does not have to be forged to produce exceptional feel, though it can help in certain instances.
That said, I have played A LOT of different iron sets over the last couple of years and almost anything Bridgestone has been consistently impressive in the feel department for me. Older MPs are good, but I don't see the hype, Titleist forgings are nice, but different, and Srixon is right up there with some of the best also. This all comes down to personal preference obviously but all the OEM seem to be stepping up their game in the feel dept.
Ping G400 14.5* Aldila Rogue silver 70s
Titleist 915h 21* Aldila Rogue black 85s
Bridgestone J15 CB 4-P X100 AMT SS1x
Titleist SM5 50.12, SM6 58.12
Ping Anser Milled 0 34"
Ping Hoofer Lite
Z-Star XV/Bridgestone BXS
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seems like anything made in Japan!
Driver: G400max. 9* Kuro Kage DC TINI 70x
3W: Great Big Bertha 15*. Fujikara Pro Tour spec 83x
3i: Bridgestone tour B X-HI KBS prototype 83x
4-PW: Mizzuno MP-59 KBS Ctaper 130x
Wedges: Glide 2.0 50, 55, 60 (all SS) DG tour issue S400
Putter Odyssey 7s 34"
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To be honest I don't have an extensive history with irons. However, I came from a Nike Pro Combo set then went with the Mizuno MP20 MMCs and they feel excellent.
Fairway: TaylorMade M6 3 Wood ATMOS Black 7 Stiff Flex
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 3H ATMOS 7 Orange Stiff Flex
Irons: Mizuno MP-20 MMC 4-P True Temper Dynalite 105 Stiff Flex
Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 52º, 56º, 60º Stock Shaft
Putter: TaylorMade Spider X
Ball: TaylorMade TP5
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Used to play Mizuno's. Then, I discovered Srixon Z745's. So good, I have two sets.
3 Wood: Titleist 910 Fd 13.5* Diamana Blueboard Stiff
Hybrid: Ping i20 17* Project X 6.0
Irons: Srixon 745 TT DG S300 4-PW
Wedges: Titleist 718 ap2 50* GW
Titleist SM6 54* M grind SW
Titleist SM6 58* M grind LW
Putter: Odyssey Black Series Tour Design #9
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I’ve played so many I’m embarrassed to list them. My opinions:
Miura: Like hitting a wire brad with a framing hammer
Epon: Like the ball is melting into the face
Bstone/Srixon: A lot like Epon but not *quite* as soft
Kyoei: So pure it’s like hitting nothing when struck well
Titleist: a little clicky
Callaway true forgings: very pure just don’t like the brand a whole lot
Callaway irons with TPU and medallions: Too dampened
Ping I series: Too dampened
Mizuno true forgings: Pure, tremendous feedback, very crisp sounding at impact
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Wilson FG Tour V6. Surprised I haven't seen them mentioned yet, but as far as more recent irons go, Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 is the definition of "butter." I bought a set last year (to my own surprise!). I had always wanted Mizunos because, you know, "Nothing feels like a Mizuno." But I tested every club they made as well as everything offered from Callaway, Titleist, Srixon, Bridgestone, etc. Every company made something very nice (the 2019 Callaway Apex Pros, Bridgestones, and the Srixon 785s in particular). But, the Wilson V6's were the best feeling and softest every time for me. Even when a salesman tried to remind me of the Mizuno tagline and assure me that the Mizuno metal was softer, my hands and ears would tell a different story. (Granted, this was with MB 18's and I have heard a Mizuno rep praise the feel of the new MB 20's over the 18's.) If you haven't tried the Wlson V6's and you're looking for butter on a stick, I would encourage you to look past your biases and give them a go.
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J15’s!
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Thoroughly enjoyed your list and descriptions!
Driver: G400max. 9* Kuro Kage DC TINI 70x
3W: Great Big Bertha 15*. Fujikara Pro Tour spec 83x
3i: Bridgestone tour B X-HI KBS prototype 83x
4-PW: Mizzuno MP-59 KBS Ctaper 130x
Wedges: Glide 2.0 50, 55, 60 (all SS) DG tour issue S400
Putter Odyssey 7s 34"