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Putting a 3 wood shaft in a driver ?

Winter has set in and I was wondering this. With the way shafts are interchangeable now, just unscrew them and screw in another. Has anyone switched their 3 wood shaft into their driver ?

 


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Callaway Mavrik 3 wood
Callaway Mavrik 5 wood
Callaway Mavrik Irons 

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Someone already has such a solution: Hireko golf has been offering variations on its Thriver since 2011.

Thriver has a driver-size head with 3W loft and a shorter shaft. The head is 10 grams heavier than a normal Driver to maintain swingweight with the shorter shaft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQs1coaFhO4Also, I suspect the Mini-Driver enthusiasts will share some ideas.

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Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

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So it would be sort of like making a R flex into a stiff or something along those lines.

What about the opposite a driver shaft into the 3 wood ?

 


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Callaway Mavrik 3 wood
Callaway Mavrik 5 wood
Callaway Mavrik Irons 

Mavrik hybrids
Odyssey White Hot RX 7 putter

Maxfli tour S

 

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you can always extend the 3w shaft for the driver, unless you want a shorter stick

And you can always butt trim the driver shaft in the 3w

A shaft is not always exclusively for fairways or drivers

Many companies suggest a 1/2" tip trim for using their shafts in 3w and 5w's but you don't need to do that

Ping G400 LST 11* Ventus Black TR 5x

Ping G400 5w 16.9* Ventus Black 5x

Ping G400 7w 19.5* Ventus Red 6x

Ping G425 4h 22* Blueboard HY 80x

Ping Blueprint S 5 - PW Steelfiber 95 & 110s

Ping Glide Wrx 49*, 54*, 59*, Tour W 64* SF 125s

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The Driver and Fairway shafts are the same shaft, but the FW is cut shorter and tipped (also the FW may be a heavier version). If you want a shorter Driver then cut it down and add weight to the head to adjust Swingweight.

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If you put a 3 wood shaft straight into a driver head, it might feel a little stiffer but it doesn't physically make the shaft stiffer. The swing weight will be lower since the shaft is shorter and a touch lighter, so we add weight to the head to bring the SW back up and to also account for that tipping.

Putting a driver shaft into a 3 wood, would be the opposite (increased swing weight, might feel softer).

 

 

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3 woods are built to 43-1/4” + now. Standard length on drivers used to be 43-1/2”. Using a shaft tipped for a 3 wood (1/2” - 1”) may slightly reduce spin and flight the ball a tad lower. Because of the length, should increase center contact improving smash factor as another poster mentioned.

 

As for using an untipped shaft on a 3 wood, I just built one to experiment with and am loving the results. Minor increase in trajectory while maintaining a strong penetrating flight. VERY easy to launch “well up” as Tom Wishon says.

PXG  9* 0811 X  Hazardous Smoke Yellow 60g Stiff

Wishon 929HS 3W  Wishon Black 65g Stiff

Wishon 929HS 7W  Wishon Black 65g R 

PXG 0211 5i DG 105 Regular

Wishon 575MMC  5 - AW  Wishon Superlight Stiff

Ping Glide 3.0  54*  KBS 610 Stiff shaft

Ping Glide 3.0  60*  Z-115 Wedge shaft

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If I am hearing him correctly, his 3 wood shaft is slightly heavier. How much of a difference would this make. Is there video or someone testing shafts of equal weight?

 

 


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Callaway Mavrik 3 wood
Callaway Mavrik 5 wood
Callaway Mavrik Irons 

Mavrik hybrids
Odyssey White Hot RX 7 putter

Maxfli tour S

 

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If the shaft is heavier, all other components being the same, this would possibly smooth tempo, increase swing weight and give the club less of a head heavy feel.

PXG  9* 0811 X  Hazardous Smoke Yellow 60g Stiff

Wishon 929HS 3W  Wishon Black 65g Stiff

Wishon 929HS 7W  Wishon Black 65g R 

PXG 0211 5i DG 105 Regular

Wishon 575MMC  5 - AW  Wishon Superlight Stiff

Ping Glide 3.0  54*  KBS 610 Stiff shaft

Ping Glide 3.0  60*  Z-115 Wedge shaft

PING Anser 3 Goose Neck Putter   

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I've done it... With my M1 FW and my M6 Driver. At the range as a test. Standard stiff shaft for each. Straight swap, no weights added. What I will say, is that the M6 with the 3W shaft felt way better than the other way around. It was easier to hit, with a bit better dispersion and a bit shorter. The 3W with the driver shaft certainly went further... when I connected, but it was mostly mis-hits and just felt...weird. I couldn't find the sweet spot to compensate for the longer shaft. It was easier with the shorter shaft in the driver since it was like choking down or just hitting a 3W. I'm sure with the right tracking software and fitting expertise the long 3W could be made to work. But it wasn't worth the extra doddle as far as I was concerned.

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I've done this, off and on. Most recent effort was using the Rogue Black shaft that came with my King LTD 3w in my King LTD driver. I prefer playing my driver no more than 43.5", so it's a reasonably good fit for me. I add lead tape as necessary for the feel I prefer, which sees the swingweight around D5 or D6.

Because of my preferences, shorter club length and heavier shafts, it's really little more than hitting my preferred target. Far too many driver shafts these days are far too light for this guy.

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Fwy woods: King LTD 3/4, RIP Beta 90X -or- TM Sim2 Ti 3w, NV105 X
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h, MMT 80 S 

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Reminds me of the HiBore XL 2 wood discussons around here years ago...

https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/526189/cleveland-hibore-xl-2-wood-the-hype-is-true/p1

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