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Mizuno MP20 SEL first impressions

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KgglonghornKgglonghorn  111WRX Points: 31ClubWRX Posts: 111
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Just put my new MP 20SEL's to the test on the Flightscope. My gamers for the past two years have been the Callaway MB18's. The Callaway irons have been workhorses and have not been dethroned by any contenders...until now. The MP20's are like butter with an extra dollup of cream. If you have read any of my posts, you know I have tried them all, including MP 68's, 690MBs, Vapor Pro's, TP 9's, and two sets of Muira blades. These Mizunos are absolute sweetness AND I have picked up (on average) 2-4 mph of ball speed. Iron spin numbers are up marginally, dispersion is actually tighter and the feel is OUT OF THIS WORLD. I know these irons are not for everybody, but for you purists out there that have been thinking about these, I could not be happier. I got them fitted with Nippon Modus NS Pro 120 stiff shafts. It is like the shafts were made for these heads (or vice versa). Just wanted to share a favorable review since most people are so quick to slam muscle back irons.

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  • YoungJediYoungJedi Ottertail, Mn 1522WRX Points: 299Members Posts: 1,522
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    I have blueprints with c taper 125s and just got a set of mp20 SELs as a backup. I can’t decide what to do! May throw Accra protos in them when they come out around PGA show

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    Ping g410 LST 7° w/ Fujikura Ventus 6s, tipped 1/2”
    Ping g410 LST 13° fairway w/ Fujikura Ventus 7s, tipped 1/2”
    Ping g410 7 wood, turned to 19° (The SEXWOOD) w/ Fujikura Ventus 8s, tipped 1/2”
    Ping g410 4 hybrid with Accra cs1 m4 hybrid shaft, SST Pure
    Ping Blueprint 5-pw w/ KBS tour limited black C taper 125 s+ SST pure
    Ping Glide Forged 50° w/ KBS tour limited black C taper 125 s+ SST pure
    Vokey limited Slate Blue sm7 54F/58D w/ DG tour issue s400 SST pure
    Custom Bettinardi BB0 with Stability TOUR shaft - RJB022885
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  • UnderPar18UnderPar18 Previously Ecsugolf1  5813WRX Points: 221Members Posts: 5,813
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    I’m going to be the minority but I’ll just say it. I like the short irons but honestly wish they made the set more of a combo set. Great irons and appreciate Mizuno finally getting off the sh***er with lefties

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  • KgglonghornKgglonghorn  111WRX Points: 31ClubWRX Posts: 111
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    I wanted Blueprints originally. That is what put me in motion for new irons, but the Mizunos just moved me. Having gamed two sets of prior gen Mizuno irons, I felt like this was a no brainer. Still would love a set of Blueprints though, just to scratch that itch😛

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  • YoungJediYoungJedi Ottertail, Mn 1522WRX Points: 299Members Posts: 1,522
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    I had the 900 forged and the 919 forged (coming from mp32). Didn’t like either of them (maybe that was the Boron?) I went a different direction with the blueprints as I’ve never played ping before.

    got the SELs as a gift. Tempted to hit them but unsure!

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    Ping g410 LST 7° w/ Fujikura Ventus 6s, tipped 1/2”
    Ping g410 LST 13° fairway w/ Fujikura Ventus 7s, tipped 1/2”
    Ping g410 7 wood, turned to 19° (The SEXWOOD) w/ Fujikura Ventus 8s, tipped 1/2”
    Ping g410 4 hybrid with Accra cs1 m4 hybrid shaft, SST Pure
    Ping Blueprint 5-pw w/ KBS tour limited black C taper 125 s+ SST pure
    Ping Glide Forged 50° w/ KBS tour limited black C taper 125 s+ SST pure
    Vokey limited Slate Blue sm7 54F/58D w/ DG tour issue s400 SST pure
    Custom Bettinardi BB0 with Stability TOUR shaft - RJB022885
    Mackenzie Walker bag
  • leftycabeleftycabe Iowa 105WRX Points: 74ClubWRX Posts: 105
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    Thanks for the info - OP. I went to Golf Galaxy last week intending to hit the blueprints vs the mp 20 SELs and of course they didn’t have the blueprints in LH..... I liked the mp 20s a lot! I left fully intending to order the SELs but I’d really like to try the blueprints before pulling the trigger. I’d love to know how you guys feel those two sets compare! I’m more interested in the perceived difference in feel and forgiveness.

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  • KgglonghornKgglonghorn  111WRX Points: 31ClubWRX Posts: 111
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    I still have yet to hit the Blueprints but the MP20s are way more forgiving than people give them credit for. Its all relative but if you believe enough in your game to hit muscle backs, these are plenty forgiving enough and the feel is unmatched.

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  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 195WRX Points: 143Members Posts: 195
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    I ADORE my MP 20s SEL!!! Just today I shot my best score this year with a 1 over, 73. The big difference today was definitely my iron consistency. Was getting very close on most iron shots with many may birdie opportunities that lead to boring pars at worst. Whenever I change clubs again, Im not trading these babies in, thats for sure.

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

  • zerotigerzerotiger  29WRX Points: 24Members Posts: 29
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    My good friend just got the MP 20SELs and he can't stop raving about them.

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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1793WRX Points: 1,021Members Posts: 1,793
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    How are you liking the HMB? Even though I don't mind the topline, there's something weird looking about the toe to me. I just bought another 718 T-MB 4i to play with my MP20 blades. I like the idea of going 3 and 4 HMB though. I also must say that I love that Mizuno has done this for the lefties. Living in Canada, nearly all of my friends play leftie because they're all hockey players.

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    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4i Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 5i-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"/Bettinardi Kuchar 1 Armlock
    Pro V1x/TP5x/Tour BXS/MTB-X
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  • Trying4BetterTrying4Better  183WRX Points: 70Members Posts: 183
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    I completely agree with you. I hit them against my '19 Apex Pros and could not tell a noticeable difference in dispersion. To be honest, the SELs may have been a touch tighter. But the feel...… the feel was out of this world! And I thought the Pros felt amazing, but these are on another level. I do wish I was able to test them through the turf, but I know my Pros well enough to gauge how the SELs would feel comparatively.

    Now I just have to convince the wife why I need to sell my Pros to get the SELs with PX 7.0 shafts!

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  • herbert7890herbert7890 San Antonio 195WRX Points: 143Members Posts: 195
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    Glad you asked. I initially thought the 3 and 4 HMBs were not a good match but after 7 rounds in, I'm really loving the easy to hit long irons, they fly high and straight, just what we all need in long irons. I never felt more confident standing over the ball with long irons more than now. Now I feel I must hit the green with them, like it was a 7-8 iron. Huge confidence boost for sure. and the transition to the 5 iron is SUPER smooth, and fortunately I also dont grasp any huge different in feel either. Mizuno killed it this year with the MP-20s and finally us lefties can rejoice on Mizuno Blades Goodness.

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    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9* (set at 8 Degrees)
    Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 15* (set at 14 degrees)
    Mizuno MP-20 SELs Irons 3-PW with PX LZ 6.0
    Callaway MD5 50 Degree Wedge
    Cleveland RTX4 56 and 60 Wedges
    Scotty Cameron Select 2016 Newport 2

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  • ThunderBuzzworthThunderBuzzworth Hulk... Smash!!  2619WRX Points: 202Members Posts: 2,619
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    These were extremely spinny for me (8,000 on 7i) and there are more of these sets for sale than anything else I have seen in a long time which isn’t a good thing imo.

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    Current WITB

    TAYLORMADE M5 9* (Tensei Pro white 80tx)
    PING i25 14* (KuroKage Proto 70xx)
    SRIXON ZU85 2i (C-TAPER 130x)
    SRIXON Z785 4-PW (C-TAPER 130x)
    CALLAWAY MD5 50S (C-TAPER 130x)
    CALLAWAY MD5 55W (C-TAPER 130x)
    CALLAWAY MD5 60X (C-TAPER 130x)
    TAYLORMADE Spider Tour Black (no alignment aid)
    BRIDGESTONE TOUR Bx 
  • aussiebaussieb  830WRX Points: 91Lefty Boomers Posts: 830
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    I've also come from Apex MB 4-P w/Modus 130X to the MP20s w/$-Taper 130X. Picked up some ballspeed, efficiency and flatter flight. Loved the updated shape so much I added the T20 w/Modus Wedge 125. Can't positively say that one is better than the other, but the game seems easier and they feel like a Mizuno. I'm waiting to pick up my HMB 4i this weekend, but hopeful that it fits that slot between my hybrid and irons. I like the UT utility, but want something more like an iron flight. Going to have a few rounds of Mizuno vs Callaway/Ping over Christmas to settle on my gamer bag for 2020. Either way, I think I'm not going to be disappointed!

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    Mizuno ST190 9.5*, Accra Tour Zx475 M5, 44.5" ST190 15*, GD Quattrotech 8X, 42.5" Ping G400 19*, Accra XH85, 41" Srixon U65 18*, GD DI-105X, 40", CallawayUT 21*, GD DI-95X, MP20 5-P, $-Taper 130X T20 50*7, 54*8,60*6 Modus Wedge 125 Toulon San Diego 33.5" 2019 Srixon XV
  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1793WRX Points: 1,021Members Posts: 1,793
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    Both great irons. Softest around. Have you been on monitor with them? I noticed a high flight but they didn’t excessively spin for me. Had a couple on course experiences with ripping the ball back but the greens were super receptive. I got extremely consistent numbers and ball flights during my fitting.

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    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4i Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 5i-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"/Bettinardi Kuchar 1 Armlock
    Pro V1x/TP5x/Tour BXS/MTB-X
    Currently - 5.1

  • lawsonmanlawsonman Freeport, Illinois 5830WRX Points: 1,097Members Posts: 5,830
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    I'd love to try them but I have no use at all for the 3,4, and 5 iron. Am I right that the only way these are sold is a complete set?

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    Ping G400 driver
    Ping Anser 17,20,23 Hybrids 
    Wilson Staff MB's 6-PW
    Ping,54,58ES Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Newport 3


    Snell MTB X
  • aquapigaquapig  328WRX Points: 158Members Posts: 328
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    Can't you just buy each club you want individually?

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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1793WRX Points: 1,021Members Posts: 1,793
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    I’m pretty sure you can individually order the 6-PW

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4i Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 5i-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"/Bettinardi Kuchar 1 Armlock
    Pro V1x/TP5x/Tour BXS/MTB-X
    Currently - 5.1

  • lawsonmanlawsonman Freeport, Illinois 5830WRX Points: 1,097Members Posts: 5,830
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    Closest I could get was 5-PW on TGW. I'll have to check it out at my local store where I usually get everything.

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    Ping G400 driver
    Ping Anser 17,20,23 Hybrids 
    Wilson Staff MB's 6-PW
    Ping,54,58ES Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Newport 3


    Snell MTB X
  • _Hawk3y3__Hawk3y3_ Bad at golf  390WRX Points: 62Members Posts: 390
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    100% agree with your thoughts. Wish the LH option offered HMB in the 5 iron at least, and possibly the 6.

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    DRIVER........Ping G400 Max 9* (Ping Tour 65 X-Stiff)
    FAIRWAY........Titleist TS2 15* (HZRDUS Smoke 70 X-Stiff)
    HYBRID........Adams Tight Lies 2.0 19* (Matrix MFS White Tie X-Stiff)
    IRONS
    ........Callaway Apex CF16 4-AW (Dynamic Gold X100)
    WEDGES........Callaway MD3 S Grind 54* (Dynamic Gold X100), Ping Eye 2 XG 60* (Ping CFS Stiff)
    PUTTER........Odyssey Protype #3 Custom
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  • leftycabeleftycabe Iowa 105WRX Points: 74ClubWRX Posts: 105
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    I'm with you on this. I have never had an issue with the 5 iron, but I think it would be nice to have the option. Since we're both lefties, Hawk fans, and I'm assuming you live in Iowa, you should just buy the set in my specs and let me play a few rounds with them to see if I like them. Sounds like a great idea from my perspective! 😀

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  • _Hawk3y3__Hawk3y3_ Bad at golf  390WRX Points: 62Members Posts: 390
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    Central Wisconsin resident, actually. Dad grew up near Cedar Rapids. Was in Kinnick to watch the win against Minnesota a few weeks ago. 😃


    I'm reasonably 113% sure my wife would tear out my liver if I presented your suggestion to her.

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    DRIVER........Ping G400 Max 9* (Ping Tour 65 X-Stiff)
    FAIRWAY........Titleist TS2 15* (HZRDUS Smoke 70 X-Stiff)
    HYBRID........Adams Tight Lies 2.0 19* (Matrix MFS White Tie X-Stiff)
    IRONS
    ........Callaway Apex CF16 4-AW (Dynamic Gold X100)
    WEDGES........Callaway MD3 S Grind 54* (Dynamic Gold X100), Ping Eye 2 XG 60* (Ping CFS Stiff)
    PUTTER........Odyssey Protype #3 Custom
    WITB Link
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  • Man_O_WarMan_O_War  3181WRX Points: 397Members Posts: 3,181
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    The HMBs are the most money i have spent on a set of irons...and money well spent ;) Absolutely love mine through the set. check the lofts and lies when you get them though. Way off

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    Cobra LTD 3/4 Kai'li 80
    Cobra LTD 4/5 Kai'li 80
    TM Mid_Rescue TP 22*
    Srixon Z-Forged 120x 4-pw
    RTX 3.0 50, 54, 60 Modus 125
    TM Spider DJ Sightline Black Tour Spider 
  • leftycabeleftycabe Iowa 105WRX Points: 74ClubWRX Posts: 105
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    No need to tell the wife.......... after all, we're all GolfWRX'ers and need to have a mechanism in place to hide golf purchases. 😀 I used to do that but quickly gave up on it and my wife has just learned to live with it. Too bad we (Iowa) had that slump of atrocious play in the middle of the season against Michigan and Wisconsin, another year of what could have been.......

    If you change your mind and decide to buy/lend me a set of MP 20 SEL's, let me know. In the meantime - Go Hawks!

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  • lawsonmanlawsonman Freeport, Illinois 5830WRX Points: 1,097Members Posts: 5,830
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    Well, as of today I cannot bash Mizuno anymore. Being a lefty , Mizuno has always ticked me off because of their terrible offering of equipment for us. I went and hit the MP20SEL's today and color me impressed. What a fantastic feeling iron! I go in for my fitting next Thursday and will be placing my order for 6-PW. C'mon January thaw!! If nothing else I can just sit and stare at them. Oh, just my opinion but if you have any kind of a repetitive swing at all you can game these things.

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    Ping G400 driver
    Ping Anser 17,20,23 Hybrids 
    Wilson Staff MB's 6-PW
    Ping,54,58ES Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Newport 3


    Snell MTB X
  • leftycabeleftycabe Iowa 105WRX Points: 74ClubWRX Posts: 105
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    I have to agree with you. I was shocked by how forgiving these things are. I’m a pretty solid ball striker but I hit one off the toe and don’t feel like I lost anything That I wouldn’t have also lost with my current gamers. I didn’t get a chance to compare side by side but based on the strike location it was very comparable to what I have experienced with my gamers.

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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 1793WRX Points: 1,021Members Posts: 1,793
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    Yeah they're weirdly forgiving. I keep getting caught off guard by it. Lots of feedback but it ends up better than anticipated.

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5x 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 718 T-MB 4i Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Mizuno MP-20 MB 5i-PW Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M 35"/Bettinardi Kuchar 1 Armlock
    Pro V1x/TP5x/Tour BXS/MTB-X
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  • TheGolfingRealtorTheGolfingRealtor  8WRX Points: 9Members Posts: 8
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    I hit the MP20 SEL and Blueprint side by side with SF 95 stiff both were 6 irons and the SEL's are marginally more forgiving. This was during a fitting so I wasn't allowed to hit a bucket with each or anything. Both felt great with that shaft. I think BP's were 5 yards off and another 5 on mishits. BP's looked smaller to my eye too. YMMV...

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