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third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm  2165WRX Points: 660Members Posts: 2,165
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Has anyone replaced the set 4i from your players or MB/CB irons with a SGI or GI 4i ala Fowler with the Speedback and Na with the Rogue Pro? What were your thoughts/results? Is it a good 'hybrid' club to have in the bag instead of a DI if you want to keep a traditional 3h/3w/driver setup?



  • CptwigglyCptwiggly  25WRX Points: 16Members Posts: 25
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    As soon as my Srixon Z forged get delivered, my plan is to play z585s in the 4 and 5 iron and 6-P in the Z forged. My reasoning is my swing gets less steep as I go up my bag. I prefer the blades for the turf interaction but after 6 iron it’s less noticeable. The z585 in 4 and 5 will give be more height to better hold greens.

    This is all in theory until I put it into action. I’m currently playing the z585s so I know how the long irons perform.

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  • VienusVienus  21WRX Points: 25Members Posts: 21
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    Fleetwood has a Srixon 4 iron and the rest P7TW

    Handicap: 13
    The Netherlands
  • gdb99gdb99  1732WRX Points: 186Members Posts: 1,732
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    I just bought a set of Callaway FT irons, and really like the long irons. I’m thinking about going back to my Mizuno MP 4’s and carry 7-PW, of those, and 5 and 6 iron of the FT’s. Maybe even put the 4 iron in the bag, they are so easy to launch.

    Cobra King LTD, Diamana Redboard stiff flex
    Titleist 917F 16.5, Diamana Tensei Blue regular flex
    Cleveland DST 3 hybrid, Diamana Redboard regular flex 
    Titleist AP1, 5-PW, Dynalite XP R300
    Vokey SM7 52F
    Vokey SM7 56M
    Cleveland 588RTG 60
    Odyssey #2
  • ChadwickogChadwickog  355WRX Points: 90Members Posts: 355
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    I do 3-4i c300 forged 5-gw fg tour v4. Works pretty well.

  • TrueWRXTrueWRX  1734WRX Points: 212Members Posts: 1,734
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    I went p790 4 iron and p760 5-pw. Haven’t got to use them yet tho too cold here


  • NYCGolfNutNYCGolfNut  385WRX Points: 93Members Posts: 385
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    I play a slightly weakened Ping i500 5i along with 6-P in the Blueprints. Though the gap between the 5i and 6i is more than normal, it works fine for me. As was noted above, the swing on the 5i is not as steep, and I can afford to back-off a bit to make it smooth and unhurried, and still get the distance I am looking for.

    Experimenting with clubs and set-ups is half the fun of this game for me. Try different things and play what works for you.

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  • nfreda2211nfreda2211  70WRX Points: 15ClubWRX Posts: 70
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    I recently bought an f9 4 iron to replace a f7 4 hybrid. I lost some height but my dispersion has improved and it’s a better option off the tee on the short par 4’s.

  • nfreda2211nfreda2211  70WRX Points: 15ClubWRX Posts: 70
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    The rest of the set is ping i210 5-8 and cobra king mb 9-gw

  • No_Catchy_NicknameNo_Catchy_Nickname Kyushu,_Japan 5803WRX Points: 993Members Posts: 5,803
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    I've tried it more than once. The big problem was the head looked so different from my other irons, I couldn't get used to it. I actually have an old Srixon cavity in the 4i slot now, and it works a bit better and is slightly easier to hit than my set 4i.

    But my usual club now in the 4i slot is a 23* hybrid. Works better than all the driving irons, GI irons, and set 4i I have tried.

    Driver: Ping G400 Tour 65S
    4w: TaylorMade R9 stock Fujikura Motore X flex
    7w TaylorMade V-steel, Quadra Fire Express RB 6SX
    Hybrid: RomaRo iBrid 23* Attas EZ 85S
    Irons (4i-PW): Wilson fg-62 S300 4/5-PW or MP4 Yoro Modus 125X 5-PW
    Wedges: Callaway MD2 T-grind combination of 52*, 56*, 58*, 60*
    Putter: Mac Jack Nicklaus Muirfield

    Old stuff: Tons of persimmon and older irons. 
  • GolfMinimalistGolfMinimalist  87WRX Points: 28Members Posts: 87
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    I use a utility iron in place of my 4I. My iron set is either blades or small cavity backs. I like the look of the blade 4I, but the ball speed loss on mishits is too much. I've gotta be smart sometimes. :)

  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub  2690WRX Points: 805Members Posts: 2,690
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    I'm testing the Srixon 585/565 for a 3i and 4i replacements right now. Aesthetically they blend super well with a players CB set, I just need to get the specs dialed in to see if they will fit.

    Mizuno ST190 9.5* Diamana X'17 70xx ||  Taylormade M1 430 8.5* Tensei Pro Orange V2 70TX
    Callaway XHot 3Deep Pro 14.5* Veylix Rome 888x || Taylormade M1 13* Kuro Kage Dual Core 80TX
    Cobra F6 Baffler 16* Tensei Pro Orange 90TX || Taylormade RSI UDI 16* Fujikura Motore Speeder HB 9.8 Tour-Spec X
    PING Anser 20* Aldila Rogue Black 110MSI 105h Tour-X || Taylormade V-Steel 21* Project X Rifle Satin 6.5
    Mizuno MP-H4 3i 21* Project X PXi 7.0
    Mizuno MP-H4 4i 24* Project X PXi 7.0
    Mizuno MP-59 4i-PW 24*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey  SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision FCM 7.3 SSx1
    Vokey Special 62* Black Oxide V-Grind Brunswick Precision FCM 7.3 SSx2
    Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Bullseye shaft

    WITB Thread
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  • SammyShafSammyShaf  351WRX Points: 109Members Posts: 351
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    I use a 712u 3 iron and then go 5-PW. I don't have cartoonish wrx length so I figure the 712u mishit will be better than the thin 4mb and try to avoid those distances.

    If anything can go right, it might!
  • rufus manglerrufus mangler  1720WRX Points: 162Members Posts: 1,720
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    I'm going through the same thing. The look of a "driving iron" type of club is strange to me. The z545, 565, 585 isn't that much larger than my 745 4 iron. So, I may try an 23 hybrid.

    I hit a 4 iron once, maybe twice a round. Tough to justify a big expense.

    16' TM M2 9.5
    16' TM M2 16.5
    05' TM FCT 21, 24
    05' TM rac LT 5-PW
    Titleist Vokey SM6, 52.12, 56.14, 60.08, or Special Grind 60V
    Cleveland HB Soft 11
    Srixon ZStar
  • bodhi555bodhi555  901WRX Points: 274Members Posts: 901
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    Looking to perhaps do this with a 3 iron over the winter season. Quite happy with the VR Pros 4 - PW, but thinking maybe MP20 HMB, or T100 for the 3 iron?

    The Dee Three: Titleist 917 D3 9.5 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 65X
    The Stenson: Titleist 917 F3 15 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 75X
    The Walking Stick: Titleist 818 H2 19 degree - Aldila Rogue Max 85X
    The Blades: Nike VR Pro 4i - PW - DG S400 TI Shaft
    The Rusties: Nike Engage 50, 54 Square Sole, 58 Toe Sweep
    The Putter: Nike "The Oven" Method 003
    Balls: Nike RZN Tour Black/Platinum, Bridgestone Tour B XS, Titleist AVX
    Bag: Sun Mountain Four Five

  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm  2165WRX Points: 660Members Posts: 2,165
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    I also dont think a dedicated DI is worth it for me as I like to keep a 3h and even hit it off the tee.

    Right now I'm still using Apex CF16s 4-PW so I'm experimenting with an Epic 4i in the 4i slot to use on the tee and fairway.

    We have some long Par 5's and one long Par 3 (190-210yds) on my course.

  • lefty99lefty99  18WRX Points: 46Members Posts: 18
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    Experimenting with a 23* hybrid to replace 4i; I play 718CBs. I hit the hybrid higher, and so far a little more consistently. Still experimenting; it's probably just pride why I don't accept the change yet.

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  • wam78wam78  481WRX Points: 125Members Posts: 481
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    Currently testing the Bridgestone hf2 4i, bent 1* strong to go along with the tour b cb's. Still keeping the same shaft as with my iron set, so not going graphite on it just yet. The nice thing is it does not look drastically different at address. A touch more offset and a little bigger sole towards the toe.

    Cobra F8+ 9* Fujikura Motore Speeder vc 6.2
    Cobra F8 15* Fujikura Motore Speeder vc 7.2
    816 Alpha 18* Fubuki z75 x5ct 
    Mizuno MP H5 2i Fujikara Pro 2.0 85 Hybrid
    Bridgestone Tour B X-CB 4-pw Modus 120s
    NCW Proto 50*, Scratch raw 54*, Scratch raw 58* Modus 125 Wedge
    Toulon Las Vegas
  • Hit em goodHit em good Hit em good  2102WRX Points: 128Members Posts: 2,102
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    I use a 24° MP Fli Hi 4 iron. The trajectory and distance are perfect.

    Funny, the rest of my irons are MP64's, and I hit the 5iron with great trajectory/distance, but the 4 iron 64 does falls off big time.

    Hit em good

    Driver: Ping G25
    4 wood: Ping G25
    20° hybrid: Ping G25
    4 iron:  Mizuno MP Fli Hi (2010 model)
    5i - 9i: Mizuno MP64
    Wedges:  Vokey SM7 46.10° / 52.12°     Vokey SM4 58.09° 
    Putter: Odyssey Two Ball counter balanced
    Ball: Titleist Pro v1x / Pro v1
    Bag: Titlest Stand Bag / 4 way top
  • getitdailygetitdaily  2763WRX Points: 172Members Posts: 2,763
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    I have driver-3w-3h and jpx900tour 5-pw

    I have a t200 4i bent to 22. I just ordered a mp20 hmb 4i to test. I'll keep whichever of the 4irons that works the best.

    T200 has been ok. It launches high and goes. But I missed 2 shots left with it last time out where every other mid/long iron was struck well. The t200 offset may not play well for me.

  • SuperDaveSuperDave  56WRX Points: 69Members Posts: 56
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    I pulled the 4 iron for a Callaway XR 7 Wood ... not going back !!

  • ZNDavisZNDavis  88WRX Points: 68Members Posts: 88
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    I’m going: driver, 3w, TMB 2i, TMB 4i, then 5-9 in regular irons. Having that extra bit of confidence and oomph on the 210-225yd shots is worth swapping in that 4 iron, though I don’t have it graphite shafted like Rickie does

    Taylormade M3 • Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood • Titleist T-MB 2 iron, 4 iron
    Titleist 718 AP2 5-PW • Taylormade Hi-Toe 50°, 54°, 58° wedge • Taylormade Spider Tour Red
    Bridgestone Tour B XS / Kirkland Tour Performance
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  • eddiebigeddieeddiebigeddie  1864WRX Points: 107Members Posts: 1,864
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    I’ve recently done this. My set up is: Driver, 4 wood (16), F9 4 iron (19.5), F7 Hyb (20.5), 5-Gw. The hybrid and 4 iron DONT get hit much, but depending on the lie I have decided which I use. The 4 iron for me is straighter and lower trajectory while the hybrid is higher and better out of rough.

    Bag 1:
    Cobra SZ (9d) / Aldila Tour Green 65s
    Cobra F6 Baffler (16) / Project X Hzrdus Red 75s
    Cobra F7 Hybrid (20.5) / Aldila Tour Blue 85s
    Cobra F9 4 iron (19.5) / KBS $ Taper 120s
    PXG 0211 (5 - G) / True Temper Elevate Tour X
    TM Hi-Toe (54/10), (60/10) / Nippon Modus 115
    Odyssey Metal X Milled Versa #9Ht
    Bennington LQO-9

    Bag 2:
    Cobra F9 (9.5d) / Project X Even Flow Blue 65x
    Cobra Bio Cell Fwy (17) / Aldila Tour Blue 65s
    Srixon Z U65 3 (20)
    Cleveland UHX (5 & 6) / Project X LZ 6.0
    Srixon Z 565 (7 - Pw) / Project X LZ 6.0
    Cobra King Black 54/10
    Nike Cart Bag


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