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Project a going away?

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larciellarciel I play for eagle 2444WRX Points: 252Members Posts: 2,444
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Recieved this email from tmag.

Sounds like goodbye?



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  • elwhippyelwhippy  3364WRX Points: 327Members Posts: 3,364
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    UK sales were pummelled by Srixon and Chrome Soft. Good ball but never found a niche in the already flooded market.

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  • macedanmacedan  408WRX Points: 127Handicap: 18Members Posts: 408
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    Say it ain't so! Such a budget-friendly and well performing urethane ball

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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm  2387WRX Points: 797Members Posts: 2,387
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    I wouldnt doubt it. I got the same email, but I dont even play the P(a) anymore since I moved to a 'tour/pro' ball.


    It was a great ball as in - well priced and urethane - but I think it took sales away from the TP5 line for no reason. On the same token I think it was a nice stepping stone for people to ease into urethane balls; but i'm sure that was only a minuscule percentage of golfers.


    These days there's basically two ball categories; beginner balls with Surlin/Ionomer and 'tour/pro' balls with urethane and these are $15-25 to $35-45 of golf balls. Thats it.


    it could also be an email to 'test' a new replacement. but we'll see....

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  • ASN21ASN21 #TeamTaylorMade Bay Area 361WRX Points: 320Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    Yes it is really is. It helped me transition from the Chrome Soft when "soft" was all the rage. Soft ball, with pretty good distance and greenside spin. Durability was solid as well.

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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational  1667WRX Points: 216Handicap: ?Members Posts: 1,667
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    Not a bad ball. Fan of the yellow finish. Good feel and bite and price.

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  • larciellarciel I play for eagle  2444WRX Points: 252Members Posts: 2,444
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    I tried so hard to love the tp5/x but it just feels too hard. I think my ss (100) is too slow to unlock the full potential of the 5th core.

    p(a) is one of my favorite ball. so soft and flies lightly like a ping-pong ball.

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  • arbeckarbeck Seattle 562WRX Points: 276Handicap: 14.5Members Posts: 562
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    I think balls like the q star tour, Wilson duo pro, and project (a) are in a tough spot. The main reason to use them was price, as the tour balls from those companies will perform better for most golfers.

    And if you are buying strictly on price, their are a lot of DTC balls that beat them on price.

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  • MBBGMBBG South of Chicagoland 1636WRX Points: 184Members Posts: 1,636
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    Bridgestone basically engineered this market and despite marketing campaigns scoffing at the notion of a softer tour style urethane covered ball, it’s become very popular with a decent segment of the bell curve of amateur golfers.

    I can see where it makes more sense to cut this line than other companies because imo the TP5 is probably the tour ball that most overlaps it’s softer urethane counterpart from a feel aspect.

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  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole  1475WRX Points: 360Members Posts: 1,475
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    This is interesting. In my humble opinion I think they bungled the marketing of this ball, big time. First off, I found this ball to be very long off the driver in its earlier version (the one with the seam). I went through an odd short time a couple years ago when I was swinging the driver well and I sent that earlier Project a ball on some massive drives. My son grabbed my phone out at Ancil once and video'd me driving it 325 down a damp fairway. (I hope that's on my old phone he cracked up..) Of course it had the soft feel and what I thought was excellent performance around the green to go along with that. Then, I wandered away from that ball and, in the meanwhile, they reformulated the Project a to a different product. I did try the version without the seam and it didn't stand out to me. Never, did I see them really marketing this ball and I have to wonder if that may be tied to the fact that it wasn't on tour (as far as I know). I certainly think it was tour-worthy and I'd A/B it with balls like the Chrome Soft. Anyway, I just think they bungled it. And, it didn't help that the less-impressive version of the ball (IMO) included a jump in price putting it probably just beyond the range for which it was (or wasn't) marketed.

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  • DMartiniDMartini at home on the range 98WRX Points: 53Members Posts: 98
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    if this is true my mate i play with is going to be bummed real bad as he loves Project A.

    he started on TMs entry level ball, Aeroburner Soft & Pro, Burner Soft etc then i gave him a Project A i had found OB at my local to try, he was hooked straight away, more distance off driver, FWs and irons, he got a few boxes.

    i have given him a couple TP5 to try that i have also found, however they are not for him, he loves his Project A.

    personally, i dont mind it off driver, but i dont like it after that, of the mid price TM balls, i personally still think Penta TP & Penta TP3/TP5 is a great ball.

    now on the other hand Project S, thats a ball that i dont understand one bit...

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  • larciellarciel I play for eagle  2444WRX Points: 252Members Posts: 2,444
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    are you talking about the second version? one with black (a) ?

    I liked that version best too. the latest one was bit too soft and was indifferent than many other softballs that flooded market by then.

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  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole  1475WRX Points: 360Members Posts: 1,475
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    Any version with a seam was great. Non-seam...not so great - especially for a higher price.

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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm  2387WRX Points: 797Members Posts: 2,387
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    We could always ask @TaylorMade Golf themselves

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  • Golf64Golf64 Go Habs Go! Ontario, Canada 7969WRX Points: 283Handicap: ScotchMembers Posts: 7,969
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    We have a TM Tech rep. that works with us, he said Pro a is gone. Totally new ball coming 2020.

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  • Tanner25Tanner25  6511WRX Points: 253Members Posts: 6,511
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    It was a nice run. But, the yellow color was awful. Ranks right up there with a blue GamerSoft.

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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm  2387WRX Points: 797Members Posts: 2,387
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    Looks like the “tour response” ball will replace the project a

    people who got the project a survey in the mail will be getting a free four pack

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  • Twism86Twism86  453WRX Points: 79Members Posts: 453
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    Thats a shame. I never played them but always liked having that option on the shelf. I guess that explains why they are being discontinued though.

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  • luckypolkluckypolk  86WRX Points: 42Members Posts: 86
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    I actually found one a few rounds ago and really liked it. Great performance from tee to green for me. Was thinking about picking some up next time I need to reload. Shame.

    To be honest, I think Bridgestone is the Project A's grim reaper. They proved with the Tour B RX/S line that you can charge a premium price for a urethane ball meant for more average swing speeds. Once a market is established, everyone follows suit. I can't imagine the Tour Response ball will be far off in price from the TP5 line.

    Note for ball shoppers: there are always deals out there. No matter what ball you play, you can almost always find a deal somewhere or another that'll knock your price down to the $25 range. Just hunt for them. If you don't like this route, find a guerrilla ball you like and buy in bulk (like Snell, Vice, OnCore, etc). The days of $40+ dozens, at least for me, or long gone.

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  • storm319storm319 US 4019WRX Points: 292Members Posts: 4,019
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    I doubt this has anything to do with Bridgestone (keep in mind that they are #4 in ball sales behind Titleist, Callaway, and TaylorMade). TaylorMade is simply rebranding something that isn’t selling very well and I am sure the replacement will be around the same price point with a new marketing story.

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  • arbeckarbeck Seattle 562WRX Points: 276Handicap: 14.5Members Posts: 562
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    I don't think it has anything to do with Bridgestone. If anything, they myth that you need a softer ball for lower swing speeds is being debunked. I think the real issue here is DTC balls. The costs of making a ball like the Q-Star Tour or Project(a) probably isn't a whole lot different than a Z-Star or TP5. So selling them at a lower price means less margin. The people buying these balls are also often looking to save a little money vs the tour ball. If you can get a DTC ball that promises tour ball performance at the same cost as a Project(a) or Q-Star Tour, that starts looking like a good idea. The almost tour ball at $30/dozen is a hard sell when you can get balls that promise tour level performance at the same price. Which means the big ball makers are going to focus on their high margin balls and the low end balls.

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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm  2387WRX Points: 797Members Posts: 2,387
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    from the TM thread:


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  • luckypolkluckypolk  86WRX Points: 42Members Posts: 86
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    That's a really good point about the almost ball for the same price as the DTC tour ball at the same price point. I hope I'm wrong!

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  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational  1667WRX Points: 216Handicap: ?Members Posts: 1,667
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    I liked the yellow

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  • larciellarciel I play for eagle  2444WRX Points: 252Members Posts: 2,444
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    If anyone has 1 code inside the box of project (a) left laying around, I'd appreciate it very much! I have 3 dozens and just need one more code.

    *got it from @PersimmonEra . Super thanks!!

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