Miura v. Mizuno (My experience.)
I'm new here and relatively new to golf, but already super addicted and since I have no other true vices I spend a lot of my time and disposable income on the game.
A quick little backstory on me: I started golf in July, played every day for 25 days straight, got a handicap and was playing off 28. Since July I have taken a lesson here and there, watched lots of video of myself and worked hard at the range, putting & chipping greens and dropped my handicap to 15 at the end of 2019. (Currently 12.8 according to my garmin app, but I don't actually use that as my true handicap) My goal for 2019 was to break 100. By the end of 2019 I had broken 90 8 times. So far in 2020 I have played 4 rounds and haven't shot over 90. I'm definitely not bragging, and I certainly don't want it to come across like that, because I know these are not scores to brag about. The majority of the guys I play with are very low handicaps, scratch or better players. This is by design. I surround myself with people much better than me to force myself to get used to being nervous on the course. So far, in my personal opinion, it is working. My iron play is by far the best part of my game. When I started playing I had a set of Taylormade Rbladez, excellent clubs in there own right but they didn't look cool to my eye so I bought a set of blades (Mizuno MP-68's) off Craigslist. I was a 22 cap at this time. I know, that's ridiculous. The thing is that I didn't game them. I used them exclusively at the range, and what I saw when I went to play with my big, forgiving Rbladez on game days was nothing short of amazing. I was improving by leaps and bounds. My ball striking was much better and I was missing by very small amounts when I was not hitting it right out of the much larger center of the face.
Okay, with all that said, I have become an out and out club ho. I can't stop and I don't want to. Hitting new irons all the time is almost like rediscovering golf all over again. It provides you with a sense of excitement and joy because it is just hitting a golf shot, but it feels different. You've done the same thing with another club, but it wasn't exactly the same. That sounded a bit like a euphemism, but it wasn't, I swear.
Now, on to the title of the post. I know this is terrifically long already, but bear with me, because I was completely blown away at the difference between Miura (CB-57) and Mizuno (MP-20 blended set MMC/MB)
I was fitted for the Mizunos and loved swinging them at my fitting. They were hands down the best feeling club of the several that I swung (iBlade, z785, t100, p730 among others) There was no comparison, they felt amazing and I had never felt such a nice sensation. The MP-68's are lovely clubs and feel similar, but I want to keep them in nice shape and not game them because they're a black nickel finish and I wanted some more forgiveness in my longer irons so I went with a combo set 3,4,5,6,7MMC 8,9,PW MB. I took them to the range and played a few rounds and was playing quite well and enjoying them until I saw an ad on craigslist one evening for a set of Miura CB57's. Being the shameless club ho that I am I inquired after them. As it turns out, they're exactly the same L/L/L as my fitted Mizzys. I threw out what I considered to be a fair, but low offer and he reluctantly accepted citing that he too was a ho and had been given an ultimatum by his missus. So I went and picked them up and the next morning I took them to the range.
The shafts were different than my Mizunos. Not the weight or stiffness, but the brand and clearly the trajectory, so it took me a few shots to get into a groove, but once I did I can confidently say that there is no other club I can compare the feeling to. The Mizunos felt maybe a bit softer, but certainly not as nice. These CB57's went through 200 balls that session and led me immediately to the first tee, I threw my woods and driver in the back of the truck first and played the entire round using just the irons so that I could gauge their turf interaction and understand exactly what I was working with. I went out on my own with no one behind me so frequently I was playing 3-4 balls a hole, hitting out of the fairway, the rough and anywhere in between. I liked the MP-20s but I absolutely LOVE the CB57's. They feel much better to me. Since time I have had a chance to hit two other sets of Miuras in the CB-1008 (which I ended up buying for a song) and the baby blades. Both of those felt very similar to mine. The feeling may not be as "buttery soft" as Mizuno, but it seems like the feel is more direct and unfiltered. I know exactly where the ball came off the face, down to a smaller deviation than I was accustomed to with the Mizunos. I've seen my results on GCquad during my lessons with both sets and the distances are pretty similar, with the Miuras edging out the Mizunos in that department likely because of the more forgiving CB design and possibly a bit because they're C-tapers and my instructor said some people will see a 5% increase in distance give or take with those. Also, the spin numbers on both sets were pretty similar with the MP20's generating about 500 more when hit indoors with ProV1x's. From what I have seen when playing, I'd say it's probably closer to about 1,000 more when actually on the course. I hit the Miuras higher, but I also think that is largely due to the shaft.
Well, that's my very long and meandering story about my experience with my first Japanese forged clubs. I am still an unapologetic ho and have some other irons sets currently on the way right now. If anyone out here has yet to hit a Miura or a Mizuno I highly recommend both. Though the ones that stay in my bag are the Miuras that's not to say the Mizunos aren't fantastic, they are, they just don't feel quite as good to me. Hopefully this helped someone, or someone found it interesting. I know I'm not a super low handicap, and a lot of people will likely write this off and say that my opinion is sullied as a result, but I do hit the ball well with irons, likely because I go to the range every single day. So I hope people don't condemn me too quickly and think that my opinion is not worth thinking about. If anyone wants to ask any questions about any of the sets that I've currently got, I'd be happy to answer them to the best of my ability. (Taylormade M4, Mizuno MP20 blend, Miura CB1008, Miura CB57, Mizuno MP68 & Cobra CB/MB mk1)
I also just wanted to say thank you to everyone here, I have been lurking for a while and reading about people's experiences with clubs and the detailed write ups they provide have been fantastic. Also to all the other club hos out there who do it for the love of the game. And Balls Deep, for being hilarious and always telling it like it is.