New set of irons

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  • LondonerLondoner  1315WRX Points: 142Handicap: 12Members Posts: 1,315
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    Until he learns to listen lessons would be a waste of money.

    Top trolling though.

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    Mizuno mp h5. 4-W KBS tour stiff 2 iron modus 3 stiff.
    taylormade m2 Driver + hl 3 wood
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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 2017WRX Points: 1,235Handicap: SnowMembers Posts: 2,017
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    Of course a Wrx search for high handicap irons would suggest blades LOL. You’re going to do yourself no favours. Go take lessons. Spend every extra golf dollar on lessons. Blades are not going to make you better if you’re shooting 100.

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    I think lessons are a waste, half the time I leave worse. Heck today I was topping everything and it took me a bucket or two to get sorted out........ I have a swing that gets me around the course.....

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  • WristySwingWristySwing  373WRX Points: 212Members Posts: 373
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    It's because Masterfit is giving you the lessons. A good teacher will straighten you out in a couple of lessons at most.

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  • LondonerLondoner  1315WRX Points: 142Handicap: 12Members Posts: 1,315
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    I would bet my house they couldn't sort this guy out.

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    Mizuno mp h5. 4-W KBS tour stiff 2 iron modus 3 stiff.
    taylormade m2 Driver + hl 3 wood
    ping anser
    Titleist sm6 50 +54
    Cleveland 60
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  • TacTac  289WRX Points: 47Handicap: 3.8Members Posts: 289
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    I think it’s a shaft issue. Probably 125 gram x-stiff shafts would allow you to hit down on the ball. Maybe counterweighted too in order to reduced head weight. Perhaps even think about tweaking the lofts. Or perhaps some lead tape.

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    I meant lessons in general, the guy there is pretty good. He helped me with driving and putting the ball etc.... He isn't bad at all. I just feel he has given me stuff to work on and I have to work on it. Loading up with more commands isn't going to help IMO.

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  • ChristopherMcDonaldChristopherMcDonald  2459WRX Points: 125Members Posts: 2,459
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    I think if we've learned anything from your multiple threads, your opinion doesn't really matter.

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  • danielt823danielt823 Melbourne 71WRX Points: 62Members Posts: 71
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    Isn’t every high handicapper on this forum one good round from going pro? All they need to do is keep the ball inbounds off the tee, improve their chipping and eliminate 3 putts. Every member here can pure their irons from what I read in those forums haha.

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    D: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    FW: Callaway epic flash - Mitsubishi Diamana whiteboard d70+
    I: Mizuno MP20 - KBS $-Taper (Black PVD) (3 HMB/4,5,6,7 MMC/8,9,PW MB)
    W: Titleist SM7 Chrome (50/56/60)
    P: Taylormade Spider X Tour - Blue/Small Slant
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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    Hot take…

    Maybe you could start another Tiger Woods thread. Those are always thought provoking. 🙄

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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user Florida 6447WRX Points: 990Handicap: 4.9Members Posts: 6,447
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    Callaway Epic 10.5 Project X Hzrdus Yellow 63 gr, 6.0
    Adams A12 Pro hybrids, 16*, Aldila VS Proto Stiff
    Ping G400 19* hybrid Stiff 70 Stock shaft

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  • TherealpatgilesTherealpatgiles  535WRX Points: 158Handicap: 13Members Posts: 535
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    I'd rather read 20 of the same tiger woods thread than try to help you. Everyone on this forum has said take lessons, for some reason you know better than all the other golfers here that lessons won't help. There's some scratch golfers telling you to get lessons, I'm a 13 cap, telling you to get lessons. There's 30 caps telling you that you need help. We are all wrong. You've determined it's a swingweight issue, it's not, it's a golf swing you have. The 4 swingweight points are not causing your issues.

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    Taylormade m5 9 ad gp 7x
    Epon af901 19 modus 120
    Nike vapor pro combo 3 iron
    Epon af 503 4-w modus 120s
    Epon tour 50 55 60 modus w
    Epon i33 rose gold putter
  • ckayckay  4305WRX Points: 466Members Posts: 4,305
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    Have you considered something like a Mizuno MP33?

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    Taylormade M2 L.I.F.T. 2 KBS Hybrid Proto 85x
    Miura CB57 Nippon SPB X
    Vokey CF 52F/56M/60M S400 Onyx
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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 2017WRX Points: 1,235Handicap: SnowMembers Posts: 2,017
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    Tons of trash golfers around the world with expensive gear. No reason you can’t be one of them. Buy some irons that’s probably the issue. Lessons are bogus, you’re right.

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    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 818 H1 23° Aldila Rogue 85x
    Srixon z785 4-PW DG TI X100 Wilson Staff Blade 4-PW KBS C-Taper Black S+
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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    4 points? What are you a math major? I’m swinging c8 and the previous ones d4. It would probably take a full inch to get to c8/9…………

    Please no more advice from you. It’s not very helpful

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    i was looking at the M4s originally but some folks didn’t recommend them. They look good to me. And used the price wasn’t that bad.

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    I agree. If you don’t have the right equipment you aren’t optimizing your game. Pretty idiotic to be honest………

    like the idea of smaller heads having smaller misses. Not saying blades already cleared that up, but playing more of a mid handicap iron. I was batting this idea around. I’ve seen several posters in other threads mentioning this.

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  • mizuno playermizuno player Mizuno player  1565WRX Points: 310Members Posts: 1,565
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    This thread is like herpes. It keeps coming back.

    Now he's going to blades? Smaller mis hits? What does that mean?

    And his fitter said he should use a d4 SW because the Pros use heavier SW's? This "fitter" is not a fitter. SW is individual. Period. While you're at it put some Project X 7.0 in your new blades. That's what Rory has.

    It would be easier to teach my wife how to rebuild a GM Quada Jet carb then help this guy.

    Seriously. If you're not trolling, hard to believe you're not at this point. You've had a lot of good advice on the two threads you've started. Listen and consider using some of it. Stop the insanity. Please.

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  • balls_deepballs_deep Wanna earn 14 bucks the hard way? 2017WRX Points: 1,235Handicap: SnowMembers Posts: 2,017
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    I have to think it's a troll. If it's not... well... I don't know what to say

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    Titleist TS3 8.5° Project X Evenflow White 6.5 62g
    Titleist 917F2 15.75°  Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 75g
    Titleist 818 H1 19° Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted Black 6.0 85g
    Titleist 818 H1 23° Aldila Rogue 85x
    Srixon z785 4-PW DG TI X100 Wilson Staff Blade 4-PW KBS C-Taper Black S+
    Vokey SM7 50F 56M 60M DG TI S400
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M
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  • Bad9Bad9  4586WRX Points: 474Handicap: 9.2Members Posts: 4,586
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    He also gives advice on instruction and how to improve in some other threads

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    Ping G400 7w/Alta CB r flex
    Ping G400 4h/Alta CB r flex
    Ping G400 5h/Alta CB r flex
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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    I’m just trying to bounce back from spending 1000 on this equipment. ~500 of it I just gave it away today. The pictures was a way of healing and trying to bring a laugh to the forum. I’ve been given a lot of misinformation so I’m a little leery to jump right in.

    im trying to figure out my next iron set. The berthas are 1998 slightly outdated but… I’m capable if hitting them so it’s not the end of the world

    this was a post to brainstorm some ideas for my next buy. I bring up the Hawkeyes because if I could find some new irons with these weights loft etc it might be a seamless transition.

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  • Puttersaurus RexPuttersaurus Rex one swing at a time  756WRX Points: 189Members Posts: 756
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    #opinder

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  • 1Mordrid11Mordrid1  815WRX Points: 205Members Posts: 815
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    Swingweight does matter, and some people's swings are very sensitive it. And other people can pick up 2 different clubs with a 6 or 7 swingweight difference and hit both just as well.


    As to the OP some of your info from master fit makes a little more sense to me now. If your current irons are C8, they may have been trying to slow your release down by increasing the swingweight. But maybe they went too far with D4......I play d4 and all my friends when they swing my clubs say that my clubs feel really heavy. For me D4 on my irons slows my early release. I am giving up a bit of clubhead speed and distance, but I am more accurate and do not have to worry about wild hooks as often.

    Your magic number may not be D4, but something heavier than c8 might be very beneficial.

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  • Puttersaurus RexPuttersaurus Rex one swing at a time  756WRX Points: 189Members Posts: 756
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    Everything else aside Paddy, there are a lot of knowledgeable people here. It really sucks that your Master Fit experience did not go well.

    What is your budget for new/used irons? If it is $500, I would get fit or identify a certain shaft weight and profile first. Then you can find a used set that works for you. You don’t have to get hung up on swing weight. Iron shaft weight and flex should be your priority.

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    I'm thinking you are right. C8 does feel light, I can feel me losing the head at the top a little, but not having that weight up there in the back swing promotes a straight pull down instead of a casting motion allowing me to have an inside strike also it promotes a left to right ball strike which gives me a good path to head relation (well I am practicing this more now) while still managing a decent AOA < 0

    I wouldn't be against picking up a single iron on ebay at the swing weight D0. I also like the shafts a little shorter, they seemed to be 1/4, 1/2 shorter than the Masterfits which clearly is creating some of the head end weight. Maybe that is the trick, play a shorter than standard shaft, by 1/4.

    I always felt my arms were pretty dang long in relation to body, one reason why I can generate a lot of speed with an arm swing..... Clearly not what I want to do but it used to be that way.

    One last thing, it looks to me that the 8 and 9 iron have different lie angles in relation to the other clubs in set. Lie on the shorter irons are really sets on the heel at address, where as the other irons in the set are more in the center....

    BTW thanks for your post really appreciate the insights and civil behavior I am like the rest of us trying to figure this out.

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    @Reds

    Your post confuses me. Starts off serious then seems to get sarcastic.

    A couple of ideas I am batting around. Getting a set of gamer irons (not blades but not SPI, more GI) with a swing weight of D0 and shaft length 1/4 less than standard. Of course getting optimized shafts for my swing speed, believe my 7 iron swing with the Callaway was ~75 MPH's.

    This will be a good starting point for my iron set. The only piece that I am struggling with is to stay SGI or go GI. On one hand I really like the Ping700 and M4's but then again the 410's and even some of the Mizuno's look really nice. And of course forged irons with more feel and spin could be a possibility. I really want to make sure I am optimizing my GIR's when it comes time to pull the trigger on the irons. Maybe a split set would work, like 5 - 7 M4 and then 8 - 9 more gamer iron.

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    I'm sorting my self out..... Just takes time to get through all the misinformation. I'm getting there.....

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  • Paddy_2_IronPaddy_2_Iron  361WRX Points: 68Handicap: 19Members Posts: 361
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    @Reds

    Good video on swing weight since you seem to be struggling with it. This fitter believes it's one of the most important pieces of the fitting process.


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