Any faster guys here with 4h in the bag?

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Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  9012WRX Points: 1,292Members Posts: 9,012 Titanium Tees
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Thinking about giving a 4h a go to help get my approaches onto greens in the 200-210 yard range a little more height and spin, plus some more forgiveness on the bad hits.

Driver around 110 or so and I'm in modus 120 shafts, so I'm probably looking for something around 100g. Right now I'm thinking tensei pro white 100x or tz5, possibly straight in (soft stepped). Ideally stiffer tipped softer mid set ups.

What set ups have you gone with and what has or hasn't worked, and why?

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D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
P - Custom EVNROLL ER5
Ball - Bridgestone BXS



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  • Mookieb10Mookieb10  224WRX Points: 92Members Posts: 224 Fairways
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    Same SS here. Ordered a g410 22*, which is generally considered their 4h. I don’t habe an answer but will be following this thread.

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  • BrianM18BrianM18  77WRX Points: 46Members Posts: 77 Fairways
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    titleist 913 21* 82 gram blueboard has been the most consistent club in my bag for close to 7 years, by consistent it never left the bag. perfect for that 200 yard range.

    i didn't want to change it out but i got a 816 head and just put it right into the same shaft about 1 month ago.

    its not as nice as the 913 looking but it performs the same, i just miss the 913 but after all those years it needed to be retired.

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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  9012WRX Points: 1,292Members Posts: 9,012 Titanium Tees
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    And it didn't feel too light for you? I worry if things get too light feeling ill be prone to hooks.

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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to Canada 13321WRX Points: 2,191Handicap: 1.6Members Posts: 13,321 Titanium Tees
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    107-9 mph driver .. 92 mph with 7i

    see sig .. 4h and 5h... and testing a crossover as a 6 iron

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    Ping G400 LST 11* GD Pershing 55x
    Ping G400 3w 15.1* Oban Revenge 65x
    Callaway GBB 5w 18* Aldila NVS Pink 85x 
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* GD Tour AD DI 95x
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* GD Tour AD DI 105x
    Mizuno 919T 6 - GW UST 95 Recoil f4 
    Ping Glide SS 54* wrx UST 110 Recoil f4
    Ping Glide ES 59* wrx UST 110 Recoil f4
    Callaway PM grind 64* UST 110 Recoil f4
    Piretti Matera Elite 

    '19 Index 0.9 ~ 3.7
  • nitramnitram WestOK, on the South Canadian Riviera  5540WRX Points: 289Handicap: -.6Members Posts: 5,540 Titanium Tees
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    Same situation for me Ziggy. My last driver session on Trackman was a 108.8 average. I went with a TZ5 95HB M4 tipped 2.25 and plays @ 39.5" in a Exotics CBX 22*. I tried the M5 but couldn't get the height I was after. This is the first time in over a decade I've used a different hybrid shaft than an old Fuji Speeder 904HB.

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    Epic Flash SZ 3D 10.5* Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60
    Exotics CBX 119 13.5* & 18* Accra TourZ 382
    Exotics CBX 22* Accra TZ5-95H
    PING S55 5-9 Mitsubishi MMT-125TX
    Callaway MD5 JAWS 46S, 50S, 54W, 58C  Mitsubishi MMT-125 TX (9-iron)
    Cameron 009 Prototype (A010656)
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff Montreal 29345WRX Points: 2,242Handicap: 0.0Members Posts: 29,345 Titanium Tees
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    21-22 degree hybrid isnt crazy with the right shaft no matter swing speed. I have a 20 degree hybrid I launch pretty low with a 95g D+.

    Could easily use a 22 degree if I wanted with no problems

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    Ping G400 Max w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Ping G400 Crossover 20 w/ KBS Hybrid Prototype 85
    Ping G410 4-SW w/DG 300
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2.0 PM 60
    SGC NorthWood CS 400g 
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  • AFcelicaAFcelica  805WRX Points: 169Members Posts: 805 Golden Tee
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    915h 24* s+ 90 stiff. If you like hybrids I find it much more versatile than a 4i, and way better out of the rough. 215-220 with a draw 205 straight no problem. Never going back to a 4iron

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  • gdb99gdb99  1772WRX Points: 205Handicap: 3.3Members Posts: 1,772 Platinum Tees
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    I’m not as fast as you, but I have an older Cobra DWS 4 hybrid with a Nippon 950 steel shaft that came stock. It’s my most consistent club in the bag.

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    Cobra King LTD, Diamana Redboard stiff flex
    Titleist 917F 16.5, Diamana Tensei Blue regular flex
    Cleveland DST 3 hybrid, Diamana Redboard regular flex 
    Titleist AP1, 5-PW, Dynalite XP R300
    Vokey SM7 52F
    Vokey SM7 56M
    Cleveland 588RTG 60
    Odyssey #2
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  9012WRX Points: 1,292Members Posts: 9,012 Titanium Tees
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    This is my main thought.... In the deeper rough my home courseets grow out in summer, shorter par 5 or long par 4 from the rough become a nightmare of I need to pull 4i,even at my speeds. I feel like a hybrid can help me out of nasty lies better.

    @nitram did you try the m5 flex but tipped less? I use m4 flex in my driver actually as m5 just wasnt giving me great results. I wonder though in a heavier head like a 4h if I could get away with m5 flex but maybe play it straight in.

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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • BrianM18BrianM18  77WRX Points: 46Members Posts: 77 Fairways
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    i might be bias to the shaft because its my absolutely favorite shaft, i have it in my hybrid and my 4 wood but the weight honestly is perfect for it

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  • FoulerFouler  4WRX Points: 17Members Posts: 4 Starters
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    I got a 4 hybrid because my irons didn't offer a 4 iron (CB-2008)

    Went with the M6 with Aldila Rogue Black 85 and it does exactly what you're looking for. 200-210 with enough height and stopping power. Would recommend. Likely have to find used or in store as I believe you can't order them off T-Mades site right now.

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  • jlukesjlukes  270WRX Points: 127Handicap: 3.7Members Posts: 270 Greens
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    I think the 818 H1 I have is technically a 4H. I have it lofted down to 20 degrees and have it in a 3H length shaft. Fits in nicely between my 3wood and 4 iron.

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    Ping G410 Plus 9* ACCRA TZ5 65 M5
    Ping G410 LST 14.5 ACCRA TZ5 75 M5
    Titleist 818 H2 20* GD Tour AD DI 85x
    Mizuno 919 Tour 4-PW OBAN CT 115 X(-)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 49.07 F - 54.10 S - 59.11D
    Mizuno M Craft I
    Bridgestone Tour B X
  • n_ronesn_rones New York 662WRX Points: 258Handicap: 4.2Members Posts: 662 Golden Tee
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    I was fitted into a 22 degree sim max hybrid at the kingdom with a Fuji pro 2.0 8X shaft. Similar to you im around 110 swing speed with the driver and was consistent with the 4 hybrid around the 205-210 mark.

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    Taylormade Sim 10.5° GD AD IZ 7x 45.25 inches
    Taylormade SimTI 3 wood 15° GD Tour AD DI-7x 43 inches
    Taylormade SimTI 5 wood 19° GD Tour AD Di 7x 42 inches
    Taylormade Sim Max Rescue 22° Fuji Pro 2.0 8x 39.75 inches
    Taylormade P770 5-PW KBS Tour FLT 120
    Mizuno S18 50° 
    Titleist Vokey SM7 54°
    Taylormade Hi Toe 58°
    Taylormade Spider X copper single bend 35 inches
    -Pro V1x ball
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  9012WRX Points: 1,292Members Posts: 9,012 Titanium Tees
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    Nice! I was actually thinking about going Sim but figured the 818 would be about as good but for 20% the cost. I will look into the fuji though... Sounds like guys aren't having issues going with ~85g shafts despite having more speed.

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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • nitramnitram WestOK, on the South Canadian Riviera  5540WRX Points: 289Handicap: -.6Members Posts: 5,540 Titanium Tees
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    I tried the M5 with no tipping. It still felt smooth and it definitely took the left side out of the equation. I just couldn't hit it higher than 65 ft off the ground and was needing to be more 85-95-ish. After talking to 2 different Accra certified fitters I initially went with 2.00" tipping for evaluation and ended up the extra .25 in the end with the M4.

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    Epic Flash SZ 3D 10.5* Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60
    Exotics CBX 119 13.5* & 18* Accra TourZ 382
    Exotics CBX 22* Accra TZ5-95H
    PING S55 5-9 Mitsubishi MMT-125TX
    Callaway MD5 JAWS 46S, 50S, 54W, 58C  Mitsubishi MMT-125 TX (9-iron)
    Cameron 009 Prototype (A010656)
  • sailfishchrissailfishchris Long Island NY 1020WRX Points: 220Handicap: 4Members, ClubWRX Posts: 1,020 Platinum Tees
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    I still play my 910 3h and 4h off and on. The 3h has a 90 gram whiteboard and the 4h has a 96 gram pro force V2. My SS is 117-120.

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    Ping G400 LST 8.5 TPT 14.5 LKP LT LW 
    Ping G400 14.5 Tensei Pro Orange 80 TX
    Titleist 910 H 21* Diamana White Board & 24* Pro Force 96
    Mizuno JPX 919 Tours 5-PW Super Peening Blue X
    Vokey SM6 raw 52, 56, 60 DGTI-s400
    Byron Morgan Proto DH89
    ProV1X / TPX5
    Jones Utility Trouper
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  • PowderedToastManPowderedToastMan  4178WRX Points: 1,314Members Posts: 4,178 Titanium Tees
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    The day my G25 4 hybrid breaks is the day I mourn the loss of a dear friend.

    Perfect swings might be rewarded with more accuracy from an iron, but it’s nearly impossible to hit a bad shot with the G25, and I can hit every shot with it.

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  • GodfatherGodfather  333WRX Points: 94Handicap: 6Members Posts: 333 Greens
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    I am a fairly high launch guy and have been considering the same with similar swing speed. However, last time out I was faced with a 120 punch under and around a large tree and the 4-iron low punch gave me a shot at birdie so I’m hesitating.

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    Srixon Z 565 Tensei CK 60 9* driver
    Srixon H45 Kuro Kage Black 16*, 19* hybrids
    Bridgestone J15 CB DG Pro 4-PW
    Cleveland RTX3/4 50, 54, 58
    Rife Cayman
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  • AFcelicaAFcelica  805WRX Points: 169Members Posts: 805 Golden Tee
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    Sorry it was a d+ 90 stiff...I average 9.5 gir and still feel I have no business hitting an iron to a green 200+ out, find one that fits your gap and doesnt hook ( if you have that problem) and you'll be happy

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  • forrester_fireforrester_fire  122WRX Points: 77Handicap: 11Members Posts: 122 Fairways
    Joined:  edited Feb 7, 2020 8:32pm #21

    I'm ~108 w/ driver...not sure if that qualifies me as a faster guy or not...

    I broke the shaft in my 4i hitting a punch from under a pine tree last season and didn't bother getting it fixed. I never hit a 4i especially well and really only used it once every 3 or 4 rounds.

    Long story short, the shaft (xp 115) is discontinued, so I picked up a used 816 H1 4h that I'm going to give for a whirl this coming season. My irons are long in the tooth for a WRXer (850 Forged), so if it doesn't work out, I'll probably just replace my 4 - PW, haha.

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  • ian-500ian-500  1054WRX Points: 286Handicap: 12Members Posts: 1,054 Platinum Tees
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    I'm at 110 with driver and this is my 4h...so far so good. Nice high flight with a slight fade.


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    DR: Taylormade Original One 11.5° + Tour AD DI 8x.
    FW: in the making.
    HY: Callaway Apex19 4h 23° + Tour AD IZ 95x.
    Irons: Taylormade R9 Forged 5i-PW + Quadra 100i Pro x.
    Wedges: in the making.
    SeeMore SB1, Accra FX300.
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  • Krt22Krt22 East Bay 8836WRX Points: 2,512Members Posts: 8,836 Titanium Tees
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    I play the Mp18mmc flihi as my 4i to go with my MP20MMC irons, nice blend between my 5i and the 21* 818H2.

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  • ex0dusex0dus  532WRX Points: 128Handicap: 2Members Posts: 532 Golden Tee
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    SS about the same as OP. I had a 4h for awhile and liked it. However I had to abandon it because I frequently had to use it on a couple of long par 3s with elevated tees on my home course. It would get up too high and the wind would wreak havoc.

    Great off the deck, especially from the rough.

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    Nike SQ2 13
    Mizuno MP630 clk hybrid 20
    Mizuno Fli Hi  21
    Bstone J40 DPC 4 iron
    Cleveland 588 mb 5-9
    Cleveland RTX 4
    Cally Mack Daddy PM grind 54,60
    Putter....depends on the day
    Snell mtbx
  • Lincoln_ArcadiaLincoln_Arcadia We're supposed to be having fun here...yeah, right. So. Cal. 906WRX Points: 122Handicap: 7.4Members Posts: 906 Golden Tee
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    My driver SS is only 107, but my 4H does carry about 210 and lands pretty softly. It’s a great club.

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  • chinaskichinaski Dios mio, man.  388WRX Points: 99Members Posts: 388 Greens
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    I'm 105-108mph. I typically play a 4H or DI depending on course. I definitely prefer a 4i or 23˚ DI off the tee, especially for a par 3. Anywhere past the tee a hybrid is much more useful. They can be a great tool around the green, too.


    If I do drop the 4h for an iron, I will usually drop the 5w for a 3h.

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    M2 9.5˚ - Kuro Kage Silver TiNi DC 60 
    ST190 3W 15˚/18˚ Atmos Blue TS 7S
    Z U45 23˚ Nippon NS Pro 1150
    Z745 5-PW DG S300
    Z765 51/MD4 56S/60C

    Toulon Las Vegas H7

    Z-Star XV
  • ZA206ZA206  707WRX Points: 129Handicap: 4.2Members Posts: 707 Golden Tee
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    I’m 110-115 with driver.

    My 4H goes 215 on a smooth swing with a high, dead straight flight. My 3H goes around 230 but is more penetrating of course.

    I dropped the 4i several years ago after getting a 4H as an experiment during sloppy winter golf and then falling in love with it. My 3H and 4H are exact clones as I built them both.


    ZA

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    TM SIM 9.0 with Fujikura Ventus Blue-Velocore 6X
    TM M5 15 3W  with Fujikura Atmos Blue TS-7X
    TM M3 19 & 22 Rescue Hybrids with Fujikura Atmos Blue TS-8X
    Mizuno JPX 919F (5-PW) with DG 120 X100's
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  • tgoodspe1991tgoodspe1991 New England 1066WRX Points: 364Handicap: +2.8Members Posts: 1,066 Platinum Tees
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    One of the easiest rounds of golf I had was when I had 19* 23* and 27* hybrids in the bag, and my irons started at the 6-iron. I am a longer hitter, around 98-99mph with a 7-iron. Long irons are more one dimensional and never go as high as easily as I would like. High lofted hybrids are as easy as hitting wedges IMO.

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    time rewarding and maddening – and it is without a doubt the greatest game mankind has ever invented."
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  • bryanwmilburnbryanwmilburn  1438WRX Points: 53Members Posts: 1,438 Platinum Tees
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    I’d highly recommend trying a 4H before buying. I went in to the store last week with all intents on buying a 4H to replace my 4 iron. Walked out with a U510 4 iron instead. So much more consistent for me and I couldn’t stand seeing that much loft on a hybrid. Definitely try before you buy!

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    Driver: Ping G410 LST 9 w/ Hzrdus Smoke Green 6.5 TX
    3 wood: Ping G410 LST 14.5 w/EvenFlow Black 75X
    Hybrid: Ping G410 w/ EvenFlow Black 85X
    Irons: Srixon Z785 4-PW with Nippon 130X
    Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM7 Chrome 50, 54, 58 w/Nippon 125X
    Putter: Piretti Lucca/Cottonwood II
    Ball: Snell MTB Black/Bridgestone Tour BX
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  9012WRX Points: 1,292Members Posts: 9,012 Titanium Tees
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    Hit the Sim 4h today... it was super easy to hit and it actually went too far. Was hitting it 225-230... need the 4i/h to be more like 205-210 carry.

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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



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  • leftyswagdriveleftyswagdrive  6WRX Points: 22Handicap: 20Members Posts: 6 Bunkers
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    my bag goes driver 2H, 4i, 5H, 6h 6i, driver is 110-115 mph, but I can’t hit a 3 wood or a 5 iron, and playing in the wet NW I got a hybrid to play in the winter instead of a 3 iron off the fairway. Ended up hitting the hybrid so well that I added two more. 818 H1 Atnos Blue Hy 8x shaft

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