TM ventus blue vs. Velocore ventus blue?

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I realize the TM version is the made for however Ive heard the tip section does have velocore. Anyone have any comparisons? Any reviews. Cant find hardly anything online. Im considering it in a SIM MAX.

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  • rjp322rjp322 IndianaMembers  3326WRX Points: 162Posts: 3,326 Titanium Tees
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    The tip section in the made for shafts do not have velocore. Check out The Ventus Black thread towards the end of it. Fujjikura has been posting in it and answering questions.

    https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1789613/the-new-ventus-black/p14

    Fujikura quote

    "The STOCK shafts used in the new TaylorMade products is a Ventus part without VeloCore Technology (no Pitch 70 ton or 40 ton in the bias core) that we worked in conjunction with TM to optimize the performance for a wide range of golfers. Please refer to TaylorMade for specs.

    note: TaylorMade is the ONLY company offering ventus without VeloCore as their stock shaft. And their custom upgrade shafts are the aftermarket versions, hence the upcharge. So if you see a ventus part at another OEM it is our aftermarket part with VeloCore and carries a $350 MSRP. the only exception is Tour Edge has a Ventus with "4T Core" which is same construction as VeloCore, but without the $$$ Pitch 70T material. 4T core is all high-mod 40 Ton in the full length bias core."

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  • nikeblades00nikeblades00 Members  201WRX Points: 133Posts: 201 Fairways
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    Thank you for that info.

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  • nikeblades00nikeblades00 Members  201WRX Points: 133Posts: 201 Fairways
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    i called Fujikura to ask them some questions and he said they have no info on specs and have to ask TM. So there you have it.

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  • StetsonStetson Members  2667WRX Points: 169Posts: 2,667 Titanium Tees
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    I WANT TRACKMAN DATA!!! Haha

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    VeloCore is what plants crave.

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  • PJECPJEC Members  28WRX Points: 58Posts: 28 Bunkers
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    I was going to post about the same thing. I tried the SIM driver at a demo day and the salespeople were all happy about saying Ventus is a shaft option for the standard price ($800 in Singapore) but after checking the website I realised it isn't really 'the' Ventus shaft is it.

    I am thinking it may be better to get an M4, or one of the models from the last of years, and put the real ventus shaft in it. It would end up cheaper and maybe better performance. Would anyone agree with this?

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  • nikeblades00nikeblades00 Members  201WRX Points: 133Posts: 201 Fairways
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    Thats an option for sure. The best thing obviously is get some numbers and then you know for sure.


    Can anyone who's gaming the sim max with ventus blue chime in. Im curious. But ill be going to golf shop tomm to find out for myself.

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  • dlow206dlow206 Members  308WRX Points: 121Posts: 308 Greens
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    I'm really curious to hear feedback as well. I have the TM made for Ventus Red but wondering if it is worthwhile to get the w/ Velocore as an aftermarket shaft.

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  • StetsonStetson Members  2667WRX Points: 169Posts: 2,667 Titanium Tees
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    I will have a real Blue in my 3w this week and a made for in my driver. So I can give opinions but no direct comparison of value. If I have anything of substance to report I will do so.

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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members  2677WRX Points: 926Posts: 2,677 Titanium Tees
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    Specs are on the tm website when you customize the club and choose the ventus non velocore shaft.

    As I understand it they sold the name to tm and while they make it it’s a tm shaft and thus no info on the fujikura side

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  • J13J13 Dad golf MarylandMembers  16249WRX Points: 1,248Handicap: +1.6Posts: 16,249 Titanium Tees
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    The Stock Ventus is what you would expect. Whippy junk that is a completely different shaft than the real Ventus Blue. The profile is about the same but the materials not even close. I've been testing a limited edition gold Ventus Blue and it's really good. You just have to tip it properly.

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    I think that’s going to depend on the golfer. The made for is designed for the abg golfer who typically doesn’t have a high swing speed or load shaft properly. A buddy of mine was at a demo day with one of his playing partners who hit the made for ventus and found it to work for him

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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm Members  2820WRX Points: 1,106Posts: 2,820 Titanium Tees
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    I have a hunch the 'made for' Ventus Blue for TM is just the old Fujikura 'Pro' profile from years prior which they made in many 'made for' forms - Cobra F7/F8 and Callaway Epic to name a few. They just painted it blue and slapped the Ventus name on it for TM. It's not a terrible shaft but it's a 'better fit for everyone' aka softer to flex shaft and is nothing like the VeloCore Ventus nor is it anything like the 2018 and newer shafts Fujikura has been putting out with their ENSO machine data like the Pro 2.0, ATMOS TS, Motore F1/F3, Ventus, etc.

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  • J13J13 Dad golf MarylandMembers  16249WRX Points: 1,248Handicap: +1.6Posts: 16,249 Titanium Tees
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    Of course it can work for players, especially those with slower swing speeds. My info is geared for people here or anyone that swings it faster than 95mph. They will get more out of the real ventus. Whether that "more" is worth it is up to the player.

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  • nikeblades00nikeblades00 Members  201WRX Points: 133Posts: 201 Fairways
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    I went and hit it yesterday. Didn't care for it especially with the sim max,. Just seems like a cheap trick to paint it and make it resemble the real ventus.

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  • J13J13 Dad golf MarylandMembers  16249WRX Points: 1,248Handicap: +1.6Posts: 16,249 Titanium Tees
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    It's deception and it's done by most OEM's. Unfortunately shaft companies do it because they need the revenue. Ive spoken to 4 different companies and none of them like doing it.

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