True spec fitted me into a graphite design tsg blue?wtf is that

So I had a fitting yesterday and got great numbers with the shaft mentioned above. Is graphite design really making custom shafts for true spec, or is it a renamed current line. It was touted as high launch low spin so I’m thinking ad di or ad Iz. Anyone came across this before?

many help would be greatly appreciated

Hmm....Last year I came across Graphite Design Tour AD VR, on tour. A mid launch design/low spin. Very similar to Tour AD IZ in profile, slightly lower launching. Can it be that one maybe!?

I would guess one of the GD shafts rebadged.

I have a Mitsubishi shaft from Cool Clubs with Cool Clubs graphics. Seems to play like a Blueboard/BF/S+.

Did you happen to get any more details on this? I was fitted into it as well, but I’m just curious to get a better understanding of the shaft profile.

i Did not. I was told by the fitter that it is a high launch low spin shaft made for them by graphite design. I picked up an ad iz and seem to be getting the same result. Pretty sure either of the ad shafts would work if that was the shaft they fitted you for.

Yeah, I’m going to dive into this and figure it out because I’m pretty curious.

I just called graphite design directly. The tsg blue is closest to the BB model, as well as the XC model. He said that the TSG is made specifically for true spec, so there isn’t a 1:1 shaft on their line but those are definitely the closest.

Hey everyone - just seeing this do not sure if it’s relevant or not but figured I would chime in.

I got fitted by TS in March and asked “if you guys are brand agnostic, why are you partnering with brands?” The fitter told me that as they fit golfers, they find some characteristics that don’t exist in shafts the way they think would be optimized best.

They then work with GD and Mitsubishi to build those shafts.

That seems hard to believe with all the shafts out in the market. I am sure TXG could find a similar one at half the price.

Does anyone know what the closest comp to GD/TrueSpec’s Tour AD TSG Silver 65X would be?  Got fitted into that this morning and although at first blush it seems suspicious to be fit into their proprietary shaft, it certainly felt/appeared as if it was performing the best.  Thanks!

I would be interested to hear if anyone has more info on the TSG shafts - specifically the silver and what a close comp would be.

For you guys asking, I was fit into the TSG Silver as well and I just found out that it is the Tour AD 9003.  I was also surprised that the cost from TSG is $325 and the cheapest I can find the 9003 online is $420, so it at least seems that they are not price gouging on the shaft. 

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just curious, is anyone on the thread selling a true spec ad shaft?  if so please DM me, i am interested in replacing my old shaft.

Please understand why this happens. If True Spec fits you into any old Graphite Design shaft that is sold in general retail, then you can just go and buy it anywhere from anyone. However if they can convince you that this one "special" shaft that just happens to only be offered by them is the only one for you, then purchasing from them becomes your only option.

Of course this would severely call into question their brand agnostic claims and interest in only fitting you into the right equipment for you. But that couldn't be the case??

I am not trying to defend TSG as I have no affiliation and have been there once, but I can honestly say they did not try to fit me into “their” shaft.  It was probably the 4th or 5th shaft that I tried and it truly gave me the best results.  I tried a couple other shafts after that one and eventually came back to it and confirmed it was the best result for me.

They also told me what actual Tour AD shaft it was made from so I could have ordered it myself if I wanted, but the TSG version was actually cheaper.  Sure I probably could have found the head a little cheaper on eBay and probably saved a little money, but the difference in the shaft cost would have mostly made up the difference and ended up about net the same.

That was just my experience.

An ad shaft will be worth Money after you leave, their brand = not so much

On 1/7/2021 at 4:37 PM, Heelin2 said:

For you guys asking, I was fit into the TSG Silver as well and I just found out that it is the Tour AD 9003.  I was also surprised that the cost from TSG is $325 and the cheapest I can find the 9003 online is $420, so it at least seems that they are not price gouging on the shaft. 

Where did you find out that the TSG silver is the Tour AD 9003? I am looking for shafts with a similar profile to the TSG silver 75x. Ventus Blue 7x?

the old YS6 65S fit lots of people and was cheap before those Cool New Words lo spin mid launch were invented😏

5 hours ago, RogerinNewZealand said:

the old YS6 65S fit lots of people and was cheap before those Cool New Words lo spin mid launch were invented😏

just bought some YS6 reloaded  in R and S

tips quite soft in the R

I always played the S untipped  in days gone by

Remember GD also  had  pershing, purple ice and the YSQ for reasonable prices!

I have now been fit twice at Turespec.  The first time into the Tour AD TSG Blue, which was a great shaft.  This past week I was fit into the Fujikura TSG Pro XLR8 shaft.  After leaving I googled it and the shaft is no longer on Fujikura’s website and hasn’t been made since 2016.  I somewhat suspect that a 5 year old shaft is the best shaft for me (although it may be) but the price at $250+ seems steep for 5 year old shaft.  And again the TSG I am guessing stands for True Spec Golf and means that they are also getting their own shafts from Fujikura.

48 minutes ago, jmnx973 said:

I have now been fit twice at Turespec.  The first time into the Tour AD TSG Blue, which was a great shaft.  This past week I was fit into the Fujikura TSG Pro XLR8 shaft.  After leaving I googled it and the shaft is no longer on Fujikura’s website and hasn’t been made since 2016.  I somewhat suspect that a 5 year old shaft is the best shaft for me (although it may be) but the price at $250+ seems steep for 5 year old shaft.  And again the TSG I am guessing stands for True Spec Golf and means that they are also getting their own shafts from Fujikura.

The Pro XLR8 is a great shaft, I played it for a while years ago. It has been 'made for' many companies including Cobra for the 2016 F6/F7 driver I believe it was.

I wouldnt doubt TSG is getting them from Fuji still as its an easy shaft for Fuji to make.

Here is the made for Cobra version: https://www.globalgolf.com/golf-accessories/1041973.11-fujikura-pro-xlr8-61-shafts/

The 'real' version is black/yellow and can be found here for example: https://amzn.to/3xJWMG4

Thanks, I agree seems like a legit shaft was just surprised at the cost considering its 5 year old.  As long as it goes Straight(ish) and long I don’t care when it was made.  

On 4/2/2021 at 12:34 AM, RogerinNewZealand said:

the old YS6 65S fit lots of people and was cheap before those Cool New Words lo spin mid launch were invented😏

And they can still be had for about $100

On 5/27/2020 at 3:06 PM, mistaklavin said:

I just called graphite design directly. The tsg blue is closest to the BB model, as well as the XC model. He said that the TSG is made specifically for true spec, so there isn’t a 1:1 shaft on their line but those are definitely the closest.

That is very much a cop out statement. What do you expect the manufacturer to say? Assume they are very close except for paint. I doubt Tru Spec ordered enough of them for a "custom build" run other then graphics. Of course I could be wrong.

On 5/3/2021 at 1:05 PM, JCAG said:

That is very much a cop out statement. What do you expect the manufacturer to say? Assume they are very close except for paint. I doubt Tru Spec ordered enough of them for a "custom build" run other then graphics. Of course I could be wrong.

I hear you. I mean I personally don't have the equipment to test this, so that's all I've got to work off of. What I can say is that I love the shaft, and sure its expensive as hell but it works great in my 3 wood 😀

I always say that you should play the setup that fits YOU.  This means using a reliable launch monitor and either fitting yourself or from someone that's reputable with the numbers.  Now the "made for" TSG shaft may be the best fitting, but the only down side is resale value.  If you don't care about that, go for it.   

On 5/3/2021 at 7:15 AM, jmnx973 said:

I have now been fit twice at Turespec.  The first time into the Tour AD TSG Blue, which was a great shaft.  This past week I was fit into the Fujikura TSG Pro XLR8 shaft.  After leaving I googled it and the shaft is no longer on Fujikura’s website and hasn’t been made since 2016.  I somewhat suspect that a 5 year old shaft is the best shaft for me (although it may be) but the price at $250+ seems steep for 5 year old shaft.  And again the TSG I am guessing stands for True Spec Golf and means that they are also getting their own shafts from Fujikura.

How funny (in an suspiciously coincidental sort of way). So glad I stumbled across this thread. I was just fitted with True Spec earlier this week. They fit me into the EXACT two shafts mentioned in this thread -- the Fuji Pro XLR8 for my driver and the GD Tour AD TSG Blue for my 3 wood. Jmnx973, I had your EXACT thought when I googled that Fuji Pro shaft, i.e., why in the hell am I paying $275 for a 5 year-old shaft?!? My thoughts are just as yours -- there HAS to be something newer that is comparable. The strange thing is, that shaft did give me the best numbers (and I have been fit enough to know what I am looking at. Wasn't just taking his word for it). Same with the 3 wood shaft. 

My issue now is that it calls into question the credibility of the whole process in my mind. Seems pretty clear they are pushing a 5 year-old shaft simply for the profit margins it produces for them. Have to be getting that thing dirt cheap from Fuji. Hell, maybe bought all their old inventory at a HUGE discount, which they are now turning around and selling at new-shaft price points. 

My "fix" is to get a second opinion. Going this coming week to my old fitter who uses Trackman outside (versus inside with True Spec). Curious to see the results. 

Never understood why golfers cared so much about what there club is worth. Buy what works.  Spend on performance the shaft provides not the "eye candy" of having the latest and supposedly greatest thing to hit the market.  Don't Buy Paint!!!

On 5/27/2020 at 12:06 PM, mistaklavin said:

I just called graphite design directly. The tsg blue is closest to the BB model, as well as the XC model. He said that the TSG is made specifically for true spec, so there isn’t a 1:1 shaft on their line but those are definitely the closest.

BB and XC are both mid-low launch/low spin models.  Strange that the TSG would tout their made for shaft as high launch/low spin.  Only two shafts from GD that match that profile would be the DI and IZ.