Iron Spin Rates. TM 2019 P790 vs P760

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  • GolfChannelGolfChannel Orlando, FloridaMembers  2514WRX Points: 751Handicap: 0.9Posts: 2,514 Titanium Tees
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    Driver: Ping G410 Plus w/Tensei Orange
    3 Wood: Titleist TS2 w/HZRDUS Smoke
    Hybrid: Titleist 718 H2 w/Atmos Blue TS 
    Irons: Ping iBlade Nippon AWT 2.0 Stiff
    Wedges: Callaway MD3 50, 54, and 58
    Putter: Original Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7
    Ball: Bridgestone XS
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  • nsxguynsxguy Just anudder user FloridaMembers  6910WRX Points: 1,235Handicap: 3.9-9.3-7.7 (Health issue)Posts: 6,910 Titanium Tees
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    No, but a hollowed out "blade", foam filled or not, is a perimeter weighted, more forgiving club, hence the GI.

    But if you want to tell me it's not that big an internal cavity and call it a "Player's CB", no worries. I ain't cutting one open to find out. It still ain't a "blade" though no matter how much it looks like one.

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  • FairwaysToHeavenFairwaysToHeaven Members  3567WRX Points: 283Handicap: 5Posts: 3,567 Titanium Tees
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    they did well enough to qualify for the finals but not sure about qualifying for the actual PGA championship. But shooting under par in initial qualifying tournaments tells me these irons fit more than simply the 15 handicap who isn't a long hitter.

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    Ping G400 LST 10 w/ Hzrdus Black 6.0 75g
    TM M2 3HL w/ Rogue Black 70 S
    Cobra F8 19*
    J15CB w/ Modus 120X 4-P
    Cleveland RTX3 CB 50 54 58
    TM Spider Tour Black w/ T-sightline 36" 
  • KMeloneyKMeloney Members  5057WRX Points: 327Handicap:[email protected] 7Posts: 5,057 Titanium Tees
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    So, if they didn't qualify, it was because they were using P790s? Or is it that by using P790s, they can't possibly be good enough to qualify?

    Such an inane, condescending argument.

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  • OspreyCIOspreyCI Valley of the SunMembers  5453WRX Points: 478Handicap: 10Posts: 5,453 Titanium Tees
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    Great post ^^^^

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    TM SIM Max 9* Speeder 661 S
    TM M4 15* AD DI 6S Black
    TM M2 #3 19* Fujikura
    PXG 0211 4-PW Modus 120S
    TM MG2 50* Modus 120S
    TM MG2 54*
    TM HT 60*
    PXG Gen2 Gunboat
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  • dpb5031dpb5031 Jupiter, FLMembers  5877WRX Points: 1,441Posts: 5,877 Titanium Tees
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    Why is it so important to categorize the 790s? It's obvious they're not MB blades. It's just as obvious they're not full out SGIs. Everything in between is along a continuum between those extremes and highly subjective to the individual. In the end, you either like them and they fit your game, or not.

    I've seen plenty of scratch and plus players using 790s in FSGA and Palm Beach County events. Plenty of club pros as well...

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    USGA Index: ~0

    WITB:
    Ping G410 LST 9 degree - Tour AD IZ 6x
    Ping G410 LST - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
    Kasco K2K 33 - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
    Callaway RazrX Tour 4h - Tour 95 shaft
    Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
    Taylormade HiToe 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
    Taylormade HiToe 64 (Bent to 62 & 2 flat)
    Palmer AP30R putter (circa 1960s)
    Taylormade TP5X Ball
  • Redjeep83Redjeep83 Members  6001WRX Points: 580Posts: 6,001 Titanium Tees
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    They aren't popular on tour in full sets because tour pro's aren't trying to gain distance on their scoring clubs. For the average golfer who doesn't have the distance and height of a tour pro, I think they would be great.

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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2858WRX Points: 742Posts: 2,858 Titanium Tees
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    I suppose anything that’s not a true muscle back could be considered a GI to some. That’s fine. Obviously they have some performance enhancements and offer a level of forgiveness. The better players I’ve played with, scratch or better, more times than not played with something other than an MB. Many have played with ping G series. The term “player iron” is pretty subjective to me.

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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2858WRX Points: 742Posts: 2,858 Titanium Tees
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    I know for a fact at least one of them played in the PGA championship. Can’t remember his name though.

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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2858WRX Points: 742Posts: 2,858 Titanium Tees
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    I thought you were arguing anything with performance attributes built into the head was GI....except when it’s MBs.

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  • JLewJLew Minneapolis, MNMembers  1033WRX Points: 166Posts: 1,033 Platinum Tees
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    In my opinion (and that's what we're all giving here - opinions, not facts), the P790's can fit just about any HC. Personally, over half of the 10-12 guys I regularly play with have switched to 790's and that is a range from scratch to 15 handicap as well as guys that were already long and guys that are short hitters. My core group is all sub 5 handicaps and all but one has switched. One guy has a combo set w/ the 790's in just the 4 and 5 irons and he is well above PGA Tour average with speed - 124mph w/ driver on Trackman.

    In relation to OP, you can't compare the 7 iron in the 790 to the 7 iron in the 760 if you are comparing distance, spin and descent. A more appropriate comparison is the 790 7 iron to the 760 6 iron. Get the flight you want and the feel you want and then adjust your set from there. I went w/ 4-PW on the 2017 790's because I didn't need a 3 iron due the distance changes. Then I added another wedge.

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    Taylormade M5 : AD-IZ 6X
    Titleist 915F : Rogue Black 70X
    Taylormade SIM Max 3 Rescue - AD-DI 85X
    Taylormade P790 4-PW : PX LZ 6.5
    Taylormade MG 50/54/58 : PX LZ 6.5
    Taylormade Spider X
    Taylormade TP5X
  • 2717B2717B Members  283WRX Points: 87Posts: 283 Greens
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    Good points! Really liking mine.

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  • Skitzo71Skitzo71 Chicago, ILMembers  203WRX Points: 76Handicap: 3.2Posts: 203 Fairways
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    AVGUY, your elbow issues are probably from the PX shafts, they can be very harsh on joints. I developed pretty severe "golfers elbow" which is tendinitis in the left elbow (right handed). Never had it with DG, or the original rifles. Changed to PX and had it after the first season. Switched to Modus 120 and it went away.

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    Epic Sub Zero, Rogue Silver I/O 60X
    Rogue SZ 15deg, Evenflow Blue 75 6.5
    BB Alpha 815 Hyb, 20deg, Speeder 865 X
    Honma TW737V 4-PW, Modus 120X
    MD4 50S (120X), 54S (120S), 60X (Modus 125 Wedge)
    Bettinardi Kuchar Sig #1, Std length
    Chrome Soft X
  • avguyavguy Replacement Player Sonoran Desert, AZMembers  1139WRX Points: 157Posts: 1,139 Platinum Tees
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    Skit-yep, I've owned that Callaway set with PX shafts since 2011 which covers 3 episodes of the left armed tendon tears.....😕

    This bout is my least severe, so once I can get my P760 with that elbow-friendly Recoil 110 shaft I know I'll be ok.....

    This thread got a touch contentious on the plus/minus for P790 - I think TM did a great job in those, but the look of P760 will likely blend better into my garage of irons I still will play.

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    BAG ONE:                                                                                                                     BAG TWO:
    D-Titleist 917 D2                                                                                                              D-Cobra F9 Tour Length 
    5- Mizuno MP titanium                                                                                                    3-TM R11ti
    H-Titleist 915 H1 18, Titleist 816  H1 21, Bridgestone Precept ECU 25                           H-TM 2.0 SF 18 & 21, Cobra AC 25
    I - TM P760 /Recoil F4 110 5-PW                                                                                     I - Titleist T100/MR KK TiNi 105 
    W- Mizuno 52, Vokey SM6 58                                                                                        W- Mizuno 53, Cally 58
    P- Bellum Winmore Midi  787                                                                                         P-Guerin TS Black 370

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