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Callaway Apex Vs. Titleist T-200


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Had a friend, index of 4, buy both Apex and T200 at Roger Dunn. He's a low ball hitter. Traded in his Cobra tour for the Apex. Apex were OK, not great, and not much better than Cobra, although they went further due to lofting. Titleist introduced T200 before his 90 days were up so he exchanged Apex for T200. He was extremely unhappy with very low ball flight of the T200. He immediately exchanged for Srixon 585/785 combo set and is very very pleased, good distance and higher trajectory. I don't remember what the shafts were in the Apex and T200, whatever they had in inventory for steel, stiff. The Srixon are Modus.

Also have a ex tour buddy who seldom plays, maybe once a month now. He said fuck it, I need a great cavity back and went all the way from Apex pros KBS C-Taper XS to off the rack Srixon 585 with Modus XS. He absolutely loves them.

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I play the Apex CF19's and have found them to be much better in terms of distance, consistency, and feel than just about anything else that I have compared them to... that includes the Z585's, Rogue X, and P790's. I'm a senior golfer so distance and consistency is very important to me because I don't have a lot of club head speed. My irons are equipped with UST Recoil 760 F2 shafts and I love them.

I have never hit a Titleist iron so I can't compare those.

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I have just ordered a set of apex, having tried the t200, Mizuno 915 forged and hmb, z585, p790 and cobra forged (not all in one go I hesitate to add). The launch monitor figures were better on the apex for me, but more than that they just felt the best and I was striking them more consistently. I don’t know why and they were probably in the bottom half of my list before I went in.

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I highly recommend the Elevate TOUR shaft from the Apex pro, not the regular 95g or 105g shaft the Apex comes with. Its a much better shaft.

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Had the apex 19s and currently play the t200s.

apex irons are great especially if you don’t practice much.

i love the badge design of the t200s which is part of the reason why I got them.

I think they have a little wider sole than apex and a bigger head size overall. . I don’t like the 43 degree pitch as It throws off gapping a little. Yesterday for first time in my life had 8 pars in a row on the back 9 and finished with a 3 putt bogey for 37. A lot of that had to do with the t200s forgiveness.

You can’t go wrong with either I just know t200s won’t be my last iron where for a lot of ppl Apex irons tend to say in the bag a while. if that makes any sense to you.

I am club ho so you know how that goes.

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I actually think the True Temper Elevate shaft is a good "stock" shaft that will fit many (the goal of a stock shaft). It may not be for everyone but to me it's a better feeling version of the XP95 and 105

Callaway Epic Speed 9° Driver
Callaway Epic Speed 4W - Smoke IM10

Callaway Apex UW (21°)

Mizuno Pro 225 (4i); 223 (5-9i); 221 (PW)
Jaws MD 5 50°, Full Toe 54°, 58° PM Grind
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Tested the Apex, T200 and my own 585. All 7 irons. T200 was about 5 yards farther and seemed the most forgiving. I tend to launch high so T200 kept flight down a little better. All felt great. The T200 loft may be a degree stronger so that may account for it. Liked the T200 better than the Apex (by a little) plus the 50% trade in bonus so went with the T200. Would be happy with either including keeping my 585/785 combp set but new is always fun.

 

 

 

 

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Having owned 45 + sets since 1976 ,most in last 20 years and many forged player cb variety along with 6 or 7 Ping models I obviously have a iron issue,LOL. Not wealthy and places like this forum allow me the option to trade,buy,sell. That said your choices are both excellent and really boil down to what you like to look at assuming thier preformance for you is similiar. One observation over the last number of years seem to reveal guys have a desire to keep their Apex models longer than any other including Ping. I don't have validated stats on my comment but just what I see and hear. FWIW I got the Apex 19 5-g PX LZ last year and have my annual iron jones spending time at CarlsGolfland Trackman range with the option to hit about anything thing. Sure I would like to own 3 or 4 top sets (as I use to but can't now) but have found nothing that improves over the 19s. Frankly disappointed in the new Titleist line looks . JMHO

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I’m 67 yrs old and just upgraded my 20 yo Titleist DCI 962 with Callaway Apex 21/ DCB combo set with TCH 65 Lite shafts( getting old is tough) I’m a 12. I gained approximately 10 mph ball speed and 12 yds with 7 iron  as a work through a swing change. I’m expecting those numbers to improve. Spin rate is 4000+ rpm and launch angle is ~ 18 degrees- I forget the flight apex . Nice forged feel- definite Improvement over cast head These are 1/2 “ longer than standard and the SW is ~ 2.5- big improvement over the Titleist 3/4” long, Dynamic Golf S300, 6 SW ( I’m 6’3”)

 

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I went with Apex 21 over 790 and T200.  Loved the looks of the T100, but didn’t like the new T200 looks. I already have a set of older T100S, and was committed to going with a more forgiving iron.  I didn’t want to wait out what was going to be a super long delay with anything associated with 790.  I really liked the Apex looks and feel, plus numbers were great.  Moreover, when I ordered they had the exact shaft I wanted in stock- DG 120 Tour Issue S400.  I got them in 2-3 weeks.  4 rounds in and no regrets.  They are fantastic- throwing darts!

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Titleist TSR2 16.5* (Set to 15.75*) Tour AD DI 7S
Titleist TSR2 18* Hybrid Tour AD IZ 85S
Titleist u505 4i (21*) Tour AD DI 95S

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Callaway Jaws 56*-Jaws Full Toe 60*-  DG 115 TI S200

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I'm with the Apex Team. T200 just wasn't what I thought it would be..

What's in the bag:

Driver: Taylormade M1 8.5 w/ HZRDUS Yellow 6.5

Fairway Wood: Sim Max 3w w/ HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 6.5

Irons: Taylormade P7MC 4-P w/ DG X100

Wedges: Vokey SM9 set (50/54/58) w/ DG S400

Putter: Scotty Mil Spec 

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Hit the new T100, T100s and T200 (and the new Apex Pro again).  All are fine clubs.  I loved the badge look of the T200 when they released but in person I'm not as big of a fan. It feels plastic'y' and while I guess that shouldn't matter it bothered me.  Best I could personally do with T200 would be a 4 and 5i (maaaaaybe 6i) to go as a combo of T100 or T100s.  T100s is so just I can't get my head around.  They look great but are so strong lofted I just don't know how I'd set up my bag.  I guess basically it would be 6 - AW (instead of 5-PW for T100) and I'd have to replace my 50/54 wedges for a 52/56.  Same with T200 if I tried to carry a full set which I personally just wouldn't do.

 

I LOVE the look of the new T100! But... all things considered the '21 Apex Pro may be the best of both worlds.  They're super solid.

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Callaway Epic Speed 4W - Smoke IM10

Callaway Apex UW (21°)

Mizuno Pro 225 (4i); 223 (5-9i); 221 (PW)
Jaws MD 5 50°, Full Toe 54°, 58° PM Grind
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As you can see  by my signature I just bought Apex 21's with UST Recoil Dart shafts.  This is my first venture into graphite iron shafts.

 

I have to say so far the results are not so good but it could be the Indian and not the arrow.  Quality is right on though.

 

Driver:  TM IQ10 10.5*

3 Wood:  TM Stealth2 16.5*; 9 Wood Ping G430 22.5*

Irons:  Srixon ZX5 4 - P

SW:  Titleist SM9 S 56*

Putter:  Bettinardi BB-8W

 

 

 

 

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On 2/28/2020 at 9:05 AM, third-times-a-charm said:

I highly recommend the Elevate TOUR shaft from the Apex pro, not the regular 95g or 105g shaft the Apex comes with. Its a much better shaft.

Are you talking about the ETS? I love elevate tour from apex 2019 but haven't tried the new elevate ets 115. I think the stock for 2021 apex is ets. I'm wondering if ETS is even better than elevate tour. 

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On 3/17/2020 at 9:38 PM, cmatthews77 said:

I actually think the True Temper Elevate shaft is a good "stock" shaft that will fit many (the goal of a stock shaft). It may not be for everyone but to me it's a better feeling version of the XP95 and 105

Totally agreed, one of the reasons I bought the CF19's was how much I liked the stock elevate 95 shafts compared to dg105 and modus 105 which I had tried previously.

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ok, I'm going the other direction.  I had the T200 prior year version and moved to the Apex 21 irons.  The T200s had nippon 950GH and the Apex had the elevate 95s that I was fit into.  Hasn't been the best experience for me, hated the elevate shafts and reshafted with modus 105.  Much better now but honestly I should have kept the T200s, just better for me.  Irons are such a personal thing, one is best for somebody but horrible for another person.  

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Glad this topic is revived. Thinking of going to the new T200 or Apex 21. While I like the Ping 425, the sole is a tad chunky for me and feel is non existent.  

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11 hours ago, sofla said:

Glad this topic is revived. Thinking of going to the new T200 or Apex 21. While I like the Ping 425, the sole is a tad chunky for me and feel is non existent.  

 Don’t overlook the TM ‘21 P790s. I just got some Apex 21s and after 3 rounds and 3 range sessions they ain’t for me, at least with the Dart 75 shaft, too light. 
 Took them back to PGASS and spent an hour and a half hitting P790, Apex 21 and ZX5’s with as many graphite shafts as the had available. MMT95, Recoil 95 and 780 smacWrap, SF fc 90 and i90 cw.

  Surprisingly, the TM’s won out with the Recoil 95. Now the wait begins.

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