To be beloved or respected?

The classic Arnie v Jack argument, which I'm sure has been done to death on this forum. But in golf, or your career or whatever category you chose to apply to:

Is it better to be the most beloved or the best?

Its better to be feared.

OP kind of shifted the goalposts, but I would choose respected over beloved.

It’s not a classic Arnold vs. Jack argument, that has never been an argument, unless you think people ever failed in any sense to respect Arnold Palmer (which is stupid). Jack taking longer to be more of a perceived fan favorite in some ways, maybe. Respect for either? Come on.

Edit: the rest just isn't that important. Let's try a little harder and not insult either of the icons of the game just to have another "topic".

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Palmer vs player ?

Machiavelli asserted, "it is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

Either is preferable to being laughed at.

Usually if you are loved, you are respected too. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

For what reason?

I'm using those two as an example. Arnold was clearly the most beloved golfer ever and Jack was the better player. No one is saying Arnold wasn't respected. I remember during Arnold's funeral Jack saying: 'everyone loved Arnold more than us and we all knew it.'

Once again publish the "take" and change the goalposts. You used the word "respect" in juxtaposition.

Now it's "beloved vs. better player"? There is NEVER any argument about Jack's on course record vs. Arnold and never has been on here. Folks here, like most knowledgeable golf and sports fans respect and appreciate both of their accomplishments on and off the course - this isn't 1962.

They both smoked so we know you would consider them "riff raff" and want them out of the way on your executive 9.

Easy, both. I would want people to love how much they respect me.

They can both play on the 18, you on the other hand...

Sonny said,  “It’s nice to be both, but very difficult.” “Fear lasts longer than love… it’s fear that keeps them loyal.”

Interesting question. When given the choice between two players with similar careers, I'll take the gentleman over the jerk every time.

Homer Simpson: 'Just once I'd like to be called sir, without hearing: you're causing a disturbance.'

the real question should be : Who is loved by he fans, respected by sportsmen, feared by fellow competitors.....during their actual career, and not named Tiger Woods

Nolan Ryan

Rory Sabatini

Good question. How about Michael Jordan.

Hogan, Snead, Nicklaus, Palmer, Trevino, etc....

Niccolò, is that you? Are you writing a golf version for this "prince"? A little late for him but he says best and prefers both.

I just want to be able to get a table.

IMHO they kinda go together----

Shoot Hawk back in our growing up days everyone smoked or at least everyone I was around did. I never did but dip and chew to this very day. Now I do enjoy a cigar on the course from time to time. And just like in a few minutes I will be on the patio on my new course with a cigar and coffee and hand watching the sun come up. Yep unfiltered Camels and Chesterfields go right along with Persimmon woods, blades and ----- real metal spikes clanging on the cart paths------ Actually I liked a lot of the early stars growing up---- The 1986 Masters the last round was hard for me because I liked both Jack and Seve

Larry Legend and The Intimidator too.

If I had to chose, respected over loved, people don't have to love me but the will respect me, unless I do something to lose the respect, then love goes with it...

Sean’s and Hawk’s comments/posts say all that needs to be said on the subject!!

That being said(hahaha, you know me, I always gotta say somethin?), I have no qualms about contributing THE GREATEST pic that this thread will ever see(please remember that it is not bragging if it’s true, it’s merely stating fact?), and I would also put forward that if we were to do a mutually exclusive/either-or comparison, these two Gents would be a much better choice??

I’d normally say “respected,” IF they were mutually exclusive, however in this case, man-love? wins out.

Which one am I speaking of?

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Welcome to the Community Bow?

All my bloviating aside, nice thread?!!

Fairways & Greens 4ever My Friends⛳️

RP