Ping postponing 2020 Releases

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awtryau89awtryau89 Hoschton, GAMembers, ClubWRX  1502WRX Points: 296Posts: 1,502 ClubWRX
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Buried in a story on Covid-19 and the golf industry that dropped today was the statement Ping has already decided to push all summer 2020 launches into 2021. I am guessing this would not be published unless they had verification but who knows. Kinda sucks because I was looking forward to seeing the new irons but at least I know my i210s are going to be with me another full season.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10367WRX Points: 3,560Handicap: 8Posts: 10,367 ClubWRX
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    Do you have a source for this? Not surprising but curious to see if it can be fact checked.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • AThompson_3AThompson_3 Members  1522WRX Points: 168Posts: 1,522 Platinum Tees
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    That is what the entire 2020 season is going to become. The deals we’ll be out there to have for everything from clubs, apparel, shoes, etc. especially at clubs and courses because they will need the additional cash flow to make up expenses.

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  • tbowles411tbowles411 ClubWRX  25662WRX Points: 829Handicap: GolfPosts: 25,662 Titanium Tees
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    It wouldn't shock me if they ALL postponed their releases. Companies are going to have a heck of a time shedding inventory. There may be deals to be had this summer and fall because of it.

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  • semarlorsemarlor Charlotte, NCMembers  992WRX Points: 333Posts: 992 Golden Tee
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    I know it isn't required but if "tour validation" is a real thing and not just a buzz word for equipment companies, it's hard to make it happen with no tour golf being played. I am definitely interested to see how deep the discounts go to clear product.

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    For all the other OEM's maybe but golf is a small part of what Ping does in the business world. They have government contracts with their main company business so I'm sure there's no concern about keeping the doors open.



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    One of the leading investment cast companies in North America.

    God Bless

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  • awtryau89awtryau89 Hoschton, GAMembers, ClubWRX  1502WRX Points: 296Posts: 1,502 ClubWRX
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    Can't list the source on this site as it is a competing site and frowned upon.

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    Gotcha. You can dm me. I work as a fitter and checked with my ping rep after I saw this. He is currently unaware of any delays. He could just be saying that as a company line or he may not be told anything yet.

    I just know that if one release is delayed it could snow ball very quickly from one to the next to the next. These things are planned out 3-4 years in advance.

    i did read they (Ping) have closed they production floor. Many other companies have some form or layoff or furlough going on. Pretty sad.

    Hopefully the water gets turned on soon. You can say these companies charge too much. But then you see the people behind the products and their lives and families being affected just like the rest of us. These companies need constant influx just like all of us.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • ForeleftForeleft Members  2256WRX Points: 348Posts: 2,256 Platinum Tees
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    Any significant product launch may get held to next year. Launching into 2020, with 20% unemployment, will just not feel good.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    I’m calling “BS” on this one. I watched the latest episode of TXG with Chris Voshall from Mizuno tonight. He talked a bit about their release of the new JPX line late this summer that they are definitely releasing this year. I’m sure Mizuno isn’t the only ones that will release product as scheduled.

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  • golf_is_my_druggolf_is_my_drug Members  3WRX Points: 5Posts: 3 Starters
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    Well no g425 max driver or g425 max fairway woods til next year

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  • SquatchthegolferSquatchthegolfer Members  1WRX Points: 10Handicap: 3Posts: 1 Starters
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    No one is playing golf right now, why not postpone the release of 2020 equipment? saves them a year of research and development. the golf industry got hit hard this year financially. hopefully after this is all over there will be a boom across the market. godspeed! -Squatch the Golfer

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    Well no g425 max driver or fairways til next year

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    I also want to know more, "Investment cast company" doesn't say much to me.. What's the company called that is making them the government money?

    I would also like to know if this cancelled summer release is a fact because then I might just pull the trigger on em T100S's, was holding off for the new iBlade replacement..

    I also saw the Mizuno episode Chris had with TXG and looks like it's full steam ahead for summer release, would really be weird if one company released new clubs but others didn't. I have to admit seeing Taylormade lower the SIM line prices so soon into the release was a bit surprising, you can get a fully fitted SIM Max driver for like ~350€ already here so it's hard to see that making much money to anyone.

    awtryau89 can you mention what site, maybe use code so WRX doesn't get upset?

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  • Steele47Steele47 Members  1833WRX Points: 988Posts: 1,833 Platinum Tees
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    I'm with you. I'm extremely interested in seeing what replaces the iBlade. Been almost 4 years I believe since the iBlade came out. I'm hoping the iBlade 2.0 or i59 is hideous so I save my money.

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    Don’t disagree as it relates to PING financial strength but no one wants inventory when you have rampant unemployment. Can’t imagine TM’s PE ownership is loving life right now.

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    The investment cast company is called "Dolphin" and is also located in Phoenix. They do precision work for the Defense Department and many commercial customers. I went through the plant five years ago and it was fascinating. At that time the last iron head made there was the Karsten. Clubs are no longer cast there.

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    TM is a publicly held company. Ping is owned by the Karsten family and don't have to answer to a board or share holders.


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  • phelps22phelps22 Cincinnati, OhMembers  1959WRX Points: 144Posts: 1,959 Platinum Tees
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    Well it’s not. I enquirered about ordering a putter through Ping WRX with Morton’s Golf and the response was Ping is shut down as of now on the golf production side.

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    I'm still in love with the 400 series of woods but still want to see the i59

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  • JunglelandJungleland Members  605WRX Points: 115Handicap: 9Posts: 605 Golden Tee
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    TM is owned by KPS Capital, unless I’m wrong that is a PE and they have not yet spun off TM as a public entity. I founded, ran, and sold (to PE) a company that was at $800M in top line, trust me, as good as PING is, and they are good, no one likes inventory and idle machinery. However, they weren’t not the aim of my initial comment. My aim was that PING would likely delay their next release to 2021 so as to not get caught up in the slash and burn pricing that is certain to happen in the coming months. Tougher to sell your new driver for $500 when Callaway, TM or Cobra are doing a BOGO for a driver/FW/Hybrid at $399.

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    They have closed their production facility in the US. The thing is these releases are planned out years in advance. The next release after is already in the works and possibly the one after that. The ripple effect of delaying a release will be felt for years.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • tickyboytickyboy Members  2135WRX Points: 114Posts: 2,135 Platinum Tees
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    Guess they'll just have to start figuring in "global pandemic" into those release cycles.

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    ugh...... That will mess up a flow chart.


    I started to type something else but thought better of it... hahah.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    In all likelihood, there is a board of directors. Could be all family members, but I am very sure there is a board.

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