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Hey all, making a trip to Raleigh area late June. was considering Pinehurst 2 but not sure i can justify the $400+. would you guys say it justifies the cost?

On top of that think im going to hit tobacco road but looking for other suggestions in the area, I'm willing to drive a good distance.

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  • exgolfproexgolfpro Members  875WRX Points: 164Posts: 875 Golden Tee
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    It all depends on your definition of 'worth it'. I played there about 60 days ago and would play it again tomorrow. It is not a very 'scenic' course as compared to other Top 10 courses. It is fairly flat and some of the holes look similar. But if you value a truly Championship caliber course, I would say it is worth it. The course is not tricked up, it just gets harder and harder the closer you get to the hole. I have played all of the ranked courses in Wisconsin (Sand Valley, Mammoth Dunes, Erin Hills, Whistling Straits, Blackwolf Run, etc) and would put this course as one of my top 3-4 that I've played. If you can afford the $400, I would jump at it. If the $400 would kill your golf budget for the year, I would say skip it.

    Tobacco Road was a lot of fun and I would try to play if possible. If you want the Pinehurst challenge, but don't want to spend the money, go play MidPines instead.

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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandUnregistered  2810WRX Points: 1,396Posts: 2,810 Titanium Tees
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    No. I played it after a week at the Golf Academy, and I was underwhelmed. I'm probably not good enough anymore to appreciate its charms.

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  • tjbluetjblue Members  268WRX Points: 78Posts: 268 Greens
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    My wife and I played in 2014 with the Evergreen package. I would play the course again but not for 400+. If the money isn't really an issue I'd say go for it. Once in a lifetime experience and for some worth it.

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  • az2auaz2au Scottsdale, AZ/New York, NYUnregistered  2302WRX Points: 463Handicap: 4.8Posts: 2,302 Platinum Tees
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    Impossible for me to know how much $400 means to you (and it has very little to do with how much money you have, I know some very wealthy people that won't pay over $100 to play golf even though it is like me spending $1) but I love #2. If golf is more about amazing vistas or huge elevation changes to you then you won't think it is worth it. It is definitely subtle in many ways.

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  • jjthomp2jjthomp2 Members  317WRX Points: 155Handicap: 3Posts: 317 Greens
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    so here is my take. Yes it's worth it but there are so many subtle nuances throughout the course you'll really wish you could play it again so you have a better feel for it. I think it's an incredibly difficult course the first time around with or without a caddy. IMO

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    I played it a few years back with a member. *Its cheaper rate with a member

    Would I play it again.......I doubt I would at that price. As others have noted it does have a lot of subtle aspects. You need to place the ball in the correct area of the fairway to have to solid chance for the green complexes. Though it sounds odd.. IF you are trying to really score on the course you really have to know the it well or have a **** good caddie. I joked after the round... as flat and unassuming as it looks, it really is a target type track if your trying to score. It will work you mentally for sure.

    If you are doing a package deal with the resort where it is a $195.00 add then I would.. The history of the course is a big draw of course. walking in the foot steps of the greats,. The course I was not awe struck with, though it is a good track. I think Pine Needles is a way better track personally from a golf aspect.

    Its one the tracks you can check off the list which is a big reason everyone plays it.

    In PH area there are a ton of other fantastic tracks to play in the area for a lot less. The 3 that seem to be on everyone's list for good reason: Pine Needles, Mid Pines and Tobacco Road as you noted. (if you are doing Tobacco road, call them and ask if they you can book a Tobacco Road / Dormie Club combo....TR Booking can still get tee times for Dormie Club)

    • Tobacco Road is a course you have to try once. You will love it or hate it. I am still not sure about it but yet I still play it when we go LOL. I played it with a friend last year, his first time... after the round his response was there are 13-14 good holes and then 4-5 WTF holes.


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  • Bigtuna117Bigtuna117 Members  13WRX Points: 33Handicap: 12Posts: 13 Bunkers
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    Awesome thanks for the input everyone. 2 would knock out a significant amount of my budget for the trip. i think the plan right now is to play one of the other pinehurst tracks(probably 8), tobacco road, and another course TBD. Well see if i can practice some restraint and not blow the budget on 2 lol

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    See what they are charging for No.4. The recent REDO everyone says it is excellent.

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    It is less than $100 difference to play #4 so it would still be a big chunk of money to pay out. I just played no. 4 a couple of weeks ago at a significantly reduced rate and would not even think about paying full rate to play it again. I would say Dormie or Mid Pines for a similar experience for a good bit of savings.


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    WOW never knew they jumped the price on No.4 that much.

    Honestly a bit odd, because if you do a package deal (IE: Summer Tee Package) all the courses are included for play based on availability.......minus No.2 which is the $195 upgrade to the package. Sooo in the package No.4 is the same price as No.1 technically then? Based on the chart there is $200 difference. I am sure they pro-rate it that everyone is going to play 4 / 8 and whatever else looks good.

    Back on topic. IF you have a day the Cradle for $50 all day is worth it. Play... eat/drink... Play.......see the history in the clubhouse.... play.... eat/drink...heck maybe play it again.

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    It’s always hard for me to justify paying top $ for a course when I can fund an entire trip or golf for the same price as 1 round. I made the trip to the sand hills area a couple years back and we skipped Pinehurts golf and had a blast. We did make sure to take time to see the resort and ate at the Carolina Room which was really good.

    My favorite course on the trip we played was Dormie Club. I know there is chatter about it going fully-private. If you have a chance to play it, don’t miss it.

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    I played 2. It cost about $550 after caddie. I loved it, and it was a great memory. Very cool course.

    However given your budget constraints I would certainly suggest you check out Mid Pines or Pine Needles. Both are great and probably less than half of the cost of Pinehurst 2.

    if budget was really a concern, you could check our Southern Pines. An old Ross that has great bones but isn’t in the same kind of condition as the Pinehurst resort courses.

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  • Carolina Golfer 2Carolina Golfer 2 Members  9655WRX Points: 597Posts: 9,655 Titanium Tees
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    I cant say if much better than this.

    The only other thing i would add. If you do play it. Make a day of it. Get there plenty early to enjoy the range and short game area. They are both first class. Have enough time to browse the hallway of the clubhouse.

    Eat in the new grill and enjoy a beverage overlooking 18 if you can get a table there.

    Take a round on the cradle short game course that can be walked and played in about an hour.

    Don't try to cram No. 2 in as part of a 36 hole day. In my opinion it is a course that should have the day to itself and just enjoy the amenities of the resort.

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  • sabramsabram Members  1627WRX Points: 230Posts: 1,627 Platinum Tees
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    #2 is not very photogenic, but it is an awesome course. Greens are amazing. I'd play it again in a heartbeat, but try for shoulder season when it's less expensive, Rather than #8, I'd suggest you play Mid Pines. It's also a great course, great vibe and much less expensive than #2 or #4.

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  • gmarchesegmarchese Members  23WRX Points: 33Handicap: 2Posts: 23 Bunkers
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    Pinehurst 2 is a great course if you're a good player. It's a real challenge and one of my favs. I played with a 12 handicap and he must have shot 100. With a little wind that course can be brutal. But worth every penny, especially if you get a caddie.

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  • tjbluetjblue Members  268WRX Points: 78Posts: 268 Greens
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    I know it's a jacked up rack rate but those prices are ridiculous.

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    Absolutely not.

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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandUnregistered  2810WRX Points: 1,396Posts: 2,810 Titanium Tees
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    Totally agree. Beyond #2, the prices for 1, 3, and 5 are ridiculous. #5 in particular is muni-quality.

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    As others have said, it all depends on your definition of "worth it".

    From a pure quality of golf course to price ratio, probably not.

    If you're into checking off famous/top courses, it's on the list for sure.

    I would frame the question as: "Would I regret taking a trip to Pinehurst and NOT playing #2?". For me that would be kind of like going to St. Andrews and not playing the Old Course, or visiting Paris and not going to the Eiffel Tower.

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    I play to a 4 HDCP and If I was not playing with a member who knew the course as well as he did I would of shot over a 100 LOL

    Sabram is 100% right. No.2 is not a visual / photogenic course by any means. Adding to it, once on the course it seems sooooo "straight forward", hate to say it but sorta simple from the tee, right in front of you type of course YET It will beat you down in a bad way if you don't respect it. I still think it is one the tougher mental / thinkers courses I have played. and we had no wind. Though I played it in late June/July and it was firm and fast..!!!

    Keep thinking about No.2 last night based on this thread, There are a lot of fantastic tracks in the area for half the cost or 25% of the rate BUT if you really want to check it off the list it might be worth it. All comes down to each person and how important it is to them.

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  • Bigtuna117Bigtuna117 Members  13WRX Points: 33Handicap: 12Posts: 13 Bunkers
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    based off what everyones saying looks like ill be skipping no. 2 this time around. Im in the area pretty often so i will save for a later trip, though i think ill go chip around at the cradle this time. currently thinking cradle tobacco road mid pines and maybe dukes course since its close to where im staying

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    My $.02, FWIW, Any time I get a chance to play a course that has hosted the U.S. Open, I take it. Have been fortunate enough to play 6 courses that have hosted the U.S. Open and have not regretted any of them, regardless of what I paid for the experience.

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    You may want to check with Duke as it is currently closed. Finley and Lonnie Poole are both open currently and are just as good as Duke. I know you mentioned June so Duke may be open by then.

    -P

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    If #2 wasn't on the property would anyone pay 395$ to play #4?

    Of course not they'd pay the mid-pines/pine needle going rate.

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    it's the kind of course you'd want to play several times, but you can't at $400, so since it's not a scenic view, one time isn't going to do much for you ... unless you study it quite a bit before hand ...

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    the best course on the property. it's so good.

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    Well this thread is of great interest to me for sure. Next year is my 25th wedding anniversary and my wife and I are taking a trip to the Pinehurst resort. I am currently playing to about a 13, but have been single digits in the past (5 year layoff from golf, just came back this year). I am not a long hitter by any stretch of the imagination, but plan to play one of my 4 rounds at No. 2. I just cannot live with myself if I didn’t play it while I was there. The extra $195 is not too bad and I am a huge Payne Stewart fan. I still have a signed hat from the 1999 US Open both Payne and home town hero Tom Watson signed it for me. Will I shoot triple digits, probably, but I do not care as I am more about the history and enjoyment of the course and it’s subtleties. I will also pick 3 more courses to play as well as a round at Tobacco Road. Enjoy your trip and don’t worry about scores. They do not matter in the one round we get to play called life...

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    You'll be fine as long as you play the appropriate tees and tske a caddie. Guaranteed 5 shots saved there at a minimum.

    It's been said and very accurately I believe, No. 2 is a tough par, but an easy bogey. Meaning there is essentially no OB and no water. So no penalty strokes helps eliminate really big numbers. It's all in the short game there. If you can get a wedge on the green in one attempt and listen to your caddie, you'll probably score better than you think.

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    If you don't think you'll be back anytime soon you should play it. The history, uniqueness of greens, challenge - such a gem and would be a shame not to experience it. You will come away bruised but with a greater appreciation for architecture and have experienced on of the all time great courses in the world. It's such a treat that this has remained open to the public, albeit at an aspirational price

    I would echo Dormie, mid pines and tobacco road. Dormie and MP are head and shoulders better than anything else at Pinehurst save no. 4, and are very fun. No. 8 is also good but doesn't feel as classicly Pinehurst as the 2, 4 and MP. Lastly, the cradle is a blast, plan on playing at least once if you're staying on property.

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    is there really that much competition on their property?

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