Shaft comparable to Modus 120

 mallrat ·  
mallratmallrat Members  3284WRX Points: 436Posts: 3,284 Titanium Tees
Joined:  in WRX Club Techs #1

A little background, over the past year I have made some drastic (for the better) swing changes. Along with these changes I decided playing blades was not in the best interest for me shooting my lowest score possible. I picked up a set of 718 cb’s with stiff modus 120’s in them. I’m not in love with the heads but the shafts are perfect. Now my issue is, is there a similar shaft that promotes a lower ball flight. My swing changes combined with equipment changes has helped me pick up a couple yards a club but my ball flight has gone through the roof. The peak height doesn’t bother me as much as the ballooning at times does.

Any recommendations?

Posted:
1

Comments

  • CAT GOLFERCAT GOLFER Members  1035WRX Points: 142Posts: 1,035 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #2

    If you believe the Mizuno Shaft optimizer, it gave me recommendations of Modus 120, Project X LZ, and Dynamic Gold 120.

    these are all slightly lighter shafts, the modus and PX LZ both have similar profiles. I’m not a fan of the DG 120, but full disclosure not a fan of any DG shaft, the PX LZ was my preference of the 3, might be worth a try for you.

    Posted:
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • av1084av1084 Members  1250WRX Points: 115Handicap: 5.0Posts: 1,250 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #3

    C taper lite stiff perhaps.

    Posted:
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members  9658WRX Points: 1,606Posts: 9,658 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #4

    No way, these do not feel similar... At least not to me. Modus has a decent kick to it, C taper does not.

    Closest feel to modus I personally feel is the PX LZ. However, before you go changing shafts (because they have limited effect on things like "ballooning") I would try a ball like a TP5x, which is one of the lowest spinning tour balls available now. If you swing change made your AoA steeper, this could explain your increase in spin due to increasing your spin loft on any given club.

    Posted:
    D - SIM Max | Tour Z Xtreme 475; 4w - SIM Ti | Diamana B 80; 4h - 818H2 | Tensei White 90; Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120; GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue; SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue; LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue; P - Toulon San Diego or Directed Force 2.1; Ball - TP5 Pix 2.0

    Incoming gear: Speedzone Xtreme 9* Driver,  Speedzone 5w, Speedzone 4i & 5i

  • av1084av1084 Members  1250WRX Points: 115Handicap: 5.0Posts: 1,250 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #5

    CTL and modus 120 like for like flex seem to perform very similarly, but the feel is much different. It could result in a lower launch. Just have to try it.

    Posted:
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members  9658WRX Points: 1,606Posts: 9,658 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #6

    Flex means nothing really. Sometimes you can look at an EI profile and glean some information... and the EI for 120 is much different than most iron shafts. Most KBS shafts are pretty linear, and don't quite have much kick/feel to them, at least the ones in the 115g+ range. They are very stable shafts. Good for aggressive loaders of the shaft or for those who like a more firm feel. Both Modus 120 and Project X LZ have softer middles which give that "kick" feel to them. Everyone feels things different but I would really never compare the C Taper series to the Modus line.

    Posted:
    D - SIM Max | Tour Z Xtreme 475; 4w - SIM Ti | Diamana B 80; 4h - 818H2 | Tensei White 90; Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120; GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue; SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue; LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue; P - Toulon San Diego or Directed Force 2.1; Ball - TP5 Pix 2.0

    Incoming gear: Speedzone Xtreme 9* Driver,  Speedzone 5w, Speedzone 4i & 5i

  • mallratmallrat Members  3284WRX Points: 436Posts: 3,284 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #7

    I have a steeper AoA on a slightly shallower swing. My biggest swing changes have come from stopping swaying and proper weight distribution during my swing.

    I have a club with a C Taper Lite shaft; I bought 3 separate 7 irons on the Bay and used them as demos to see what heads I liked, and hate that shaft. It feels like I have no idea where the club head is.

    My previous sets had PX 5.5, which I liked but wanted a slightly higher ball flight and TT Elevate 105 which I hated.

    Posted:
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • deep18deep18 Members  2170WRX Points: 322Posts: 2,170 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #8

    Sounds like you need to go get properly fit now that you’ve got your swing in a good spot.

    Posted:
  • mallratmallrat Members  3284WRX Points: 436Posts: 3,284 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #9

    Yeah that’s part of it. I was fit about 9 months ago but I was set on playing blades and they fit me in TT Elevate 105’s and C Taper Lites. Changes aside a HUGE difference is I learned how to swing and stop hitting the ball.

    Posted:
  • DMartiniDMartini at home on the rangeMembers  117WRX Points: 60Posts: 117 Fairways
    Joined:  #10

    TT Elevate Tour is 120 also.

    Posted:

    ⟻ gamer set ⟼

    Ping G 9° ✦ Ping G 22° ✦ X-Forged UT 18° ﹢ 21° ✦ Apex Pro '16 4-AW ✦ Callaway PM Grind 2.0 56° ✦ Callaway MD5 Jaws 58° ✦ Ping Cadence TR

    ⟻ practice/backup set ⟼

    Ping G 9° ✦ Ping G 22° ✦ Apex UT 18° ﹢ 21° ✦ Apex Pro '19 4-AW ✦ Callaway PM Grind 1.0 56° ﹢ 58° ✦ Ping Cadence TR

  • YarraYarra Members  879WRX Points: 83Posts: 879 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #11

    Then you need another fitting session, or a follow-up... that's your best bet.

    Posted:
  • deep18deep18 Members  2170WRX Points: 322Posts: 2,170 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #12

    The other thing about Modus 120 at least for me is there isn’t anything else like it from a feel perspective. PX LZ felt terrible to me, super loose in the mid section. Modus 120 feels the best of anything out there and fortunately for me, fit the best numbers wise. But like everything, it’s so player dependent. That’s why the fitting process is so important (and having a good fitter), something that took me too long to figure out.

    Posted:
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • Red4282Red4282 Members  890WRX Points: 363Posts: 890 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #13

    Feel wise, og dynamic gold but down a flex. Performance wise (launch and spin), its pretty close to og project x, again, down a flex.

    Posted:
  • Red4282Red4282 Members  890WRX Points: 363Posts: 890 Golden Tee
    Joined:  edited May 24, 2020 3:26pm #14

    This is the best answer btw.. a shaft might give or take a few 100 rpms, but if balooning is an issue its likely not a shaft you should be looking at. Give the tp5x and avx a shot and see if that helps.

    Posted:
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members  9658WRX Points: 1,606Posts: 9,658 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #15

    Yeah so now that you come from the inside but give a more descending blow to the ball, you are very liking increasing the spin loft. Do you notice the ball launching a touch lower but then suddenly rising, and even stalling out but with the same clubs as before? Well.. like I said, that's probably fine, just try a lower spinning ball. TP5/x is the perfect candidate... AVX like mentioned above is okay but I find it's a little too soft. Maybe even Srixon XV but I find them to be very firm and not the best feel.

    Relative to modus 120s, the C taper lite I would guess is causing that feeling due to a) much more stiff mid section and b) possibly a higher balance point. If you like the modus 120S but want a little lower flight.. you probably need to lower your spin rates. What ball are you in now? If you're already in the TP5 then that's a different story compared to if you're in something like a BXS or ProV or other higher spin ball. .

    Posted:
    D - SIM Max | Tour Z Xtreme 475; 4w - SIM Ti | Diamana B 80; 4h - 818H2 | Tensei White 90; Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120; GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue; SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue; LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue; P - Toulon San Diego or Directed Force 2.1; Ball - TP5 Pix 2.0

    Incoming gear: Speedzone Xtreme 9* Driver,  Speedzone 5w, Speedzone 4i & 5i

  • HobbsHobbs ClubWRX  100WRX Points: 51Posts: 100 ClubWRX
    Joined:  #16

    Are you keeping the 718 CB heads? You mentioned your loved the shafts but not the heads. Maybe a change in heads (if that is an option) might be what is needed?

    What I've found is ballooning is more related to ball type and loft. With your current swing changes (bravo to you for making those adjustments), your dynamic loft might have changed as well. As someone mentioned above, might be a good time to get fit again to see what others things changed in your swing when you made your initial swing adjustments.

    But if shafts are the issues, have your thought about hard stepping the shafts? Should lower flight a tad without adding much stiffness.

    Good luck.

    Posted:
    Cobra F9 - Diamana DF 60s | Cobra F9 Tour 3/4 - Oban Isawa Red 75 04 | MP-18 MCC 3 Iron | Wilson FG Tour V6 4-PW | RTX4 50*, 56* & 60* | SC NP2 Button Back
  • jblough99jblough99 Members  1021WRX Points: 271Posts: 1,021 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #17

    I also love the Modus 120, have played them in the last few sets of irons in 120X but am looking into the 120TX. The only other shaft that works as well for me is the standard Project X 6.5 or 7.0. The PX does produce a flatter ball flight for me vs the Modus.

    As others have said, changing balls might have the most influence and is alot cheaper of an experiment than trying different shafts. Most companies offer trial packs, or grab a sleeve at the proshop, if not im sure you could post in the WTB section for a sleeve of anything you might want to try.

    Posted:
    Driver - G410 LST 9* Ventus Black 7X (tipped 1”)
    Fairway - Under Construction
    Driving Iron - Cobra KING Forged TEC 3 PX Catalyst 80X
    Irons - Cobra 19 King Forged MB 4-GW KBS $-Taper 130X
    Sand Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 56.10 Versatile KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125
    Lob Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 60.04 Widelow KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125 
    Putter - Tour Issue Odyssey Protype PT12
    


  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • WoodieWoodie Members  129WRX Points: 67Posts: 129 Fairways
    Joined:  #18

    Go with lower loft and another ball and stay with the shaft!

    Posted:
  • ignitewvuignitewvu Members  2306WRX Points: 270Posts: 2,306 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #19

    LZ's Possibly

    DG 120 No way

    Modus 120 have a soft mid they feel nothing like Dynamic Golf shafts.

    Posted:
    SIM MAX10.5 Fujikura Ventus Black 6S Stiff
    M5 15 3 Wood Fujikura Motore Speeder TS 7.3 Stiff
    Bridgestone Tour B 19 Hybrid KBS Proto 85 Stiff
    M1 3i KBS Tour 105 Stiff
    Bridgestone J15CB 5-PW DG AMT S300
    Taylormade MG 52 S300
    Taylormade MG2 56/8 KBS HiRev 125
    Taylormade Hi Toe 60/10 KBS HiRev 115
    Scotty Cameron TeI Newport 2 Longneck 34"
    Bridgestone Tour B XS


  • CAT GOLFERCAT GOLFER Members  1035WRX Points: 142Posts: 1,035 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  #20

    I agree, I was pointing out that it spit out these three shafts, the assumption being if you fit into the modus 120 it would likely suggest PX LZ and DG 120 as the other top picks.

    Posted:
  • Red4282Red4282 Members  890WRX Points: 363Posts: 890 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #21

    if you compare a stiff 120 to the r300, frequency wise they are near identical.

    Posted:
  • Red4282Red4282 Members  890WRX Points: 363Posts: 890 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #22

    The 120x is a pretty soft x flex, the tx is probably equivalent to the rifle 6.5

    Posted:
  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • WristySwingWristySwing Members  883WRX Points: 504Posts: 883 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #23

    PX LZ 5.5 is the closest head to head head comparison and has a stiffer tip. So noticeably flight would be 6.0. The Modus 120 has a very odd bend profile that is very exaggerated.



    Posted:

    Taylormade SIM 9* - Aldila Rogue Silver 130 MSI 60 | PXG 0341 13.5 - Project X HZRDUS Handcrafted 75 | Callaway Rogue SZ 18* - Diamana Thump 85 | Titleist 917F2 22* - tbd | New Level 1031 Black 5-PW - Project X LZ | Vokey SM8 Raw 50.10, 54.12D & 60.06 Low Bounce K - Accra 123i | Bettinardi BB Zero Custom - Stability | Tour Velvet Midsize Cord | Srixon Z-Star Xv Yellow

  • Red4282Red4282 Members  890WRX Points: 363Posts: 890 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #24

    Just putting references to my earlier post: dg r300 vs modus 120s-

    Pretty darn close. Now the modus 120s is 13 grams lighter than the r300, prob why it has a little different feel.

    Posted:
  • ignitewvuignitewvu Members  2306WRX Points: 270Posts: 2,306 Platinum Tees
    Joined:  edited May 26, 2020 2:01pm #25

    I'm telling you as someone who owns both they are not remotely similar in any regards on the course or in testing.

    If you like the DG profile you will most likely hate the Modus 120 Flex for Flex they feel nothing alike.

    Posted:
    SIM MAX10.5 Fujikura Ventus Black 6S Stiff
    M5 15 3 Wood Fujikura Motore Speeder TS 7.3 Stiff
    Bridgestone Tour B 19 Hybrid KBS Proto 85 Stiff
    M1 3i KBS Tour 105 Stiff
    Bridgestone J15CB 5-PW DG AMT S300
    Taylormade MG 52 S300
    Taylormade MG2 56/8 KBS HiRev 125
    Taylormade Hi Toe 60/10 KBS HiRev 115
    Scotty Cameron TeI Newport 2 Longneck 34"
    Bridgestone Tour B XS


  • Red4282Red4282 Members  890WRX Points: 363Posts: 890 Golden Tee
    Joined:  #26

    And im telling you that dont compare flex to flex. Nippons, especially the 120 “feel” very weak and soft, and from a frequency standpoint, they are significantly weaker flex to flex to other brands. Im also not even really talking about feel, but the actual stiffness profile. On paper its nearly identical. Feel is subjective.

    Posted:
  • Jack PearsallJack Pearsall Members  3510WRX Points: 275Posts: 3,510 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #27

    To JP, the modus 120s feels unique.

    The 120s feels like a shaft JP is going to completely overpower but it holds up when he steps on it. It’s a mid flightier That is easy to sky but it isn’t ballooning.

    They are strange. Never feels like he hits them pure but the results are there when he plays them. Harder to flight low in wind play.

    Posted:

    tm sldr tp aeroburner flihi pcb tours sm7 wh#6

  • GolfWRXGolfWRX Warning Points: 0  11 Members Posts: 11 #ad
    Joined:  ...

    Advertisement
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers  3259WRX Points: 590Handicap: 8.3Posts: 3,259 Titanium Tees
    Joined:  #28
    Posted:

    Callaway Mavrik 9° driver Tensei Pro White 50 S Flex

    Callaway Mavrik 15° fairway wood Tensei Pro Blue 60 S Flex

    Callaway Mavrik 20° and 23° hybrids MMT 90 S Flex

    Mizuno JPX 919 Forged 4-PW Modus3 Tour 120 S flex

    Mizuno T20 Raw Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08, 58-12 and 62-08 Modus3 125 Wedge

    Odyssey Stroke Lab Ten S

    Callaway Chrome Soft Triple Track

  • DrivingrangeheroDrivingrangehero Members  147WRX Points: 93Posts: 147 Fairways
    Joined:  #29

    I loved the Modus 120x but ended up picking up a set of clubs that have TT XP 115 shafts in them, and I love these as well.

    I don’t know about the bend profiles in the Modus 120 or the XP 115, but both have seemed to work well for me, both mid flight, Mid spin....... the weight is very similar from the Modus 120 to the Xp 115’s, and if you are having a hard time finding XP 115’s, you could always go with the Dynalite Gold XP’s which are nearly identical, both models are in the same weight range depending on flex.

    Modus 120s is 114 grams

    Modus 120x is 120 grams

    TT Xp115 S300 is 117 grams

    TT XP x100 is 120 grams

    Dynalite Gold XP S300 is 117 grams

    Dynalite Gold XP x100 is 120 grams

    The XP label doesn’t mean high launch at least in this weight, unlike the XP 95’s ... they are worth checking out........ here is a link below comparing them to KBS C-Taper lites and KBS Tour V’s

    Hope that helps!

    http://www.dlancegolf.com/from-the-lab/true-temper-xp-115-shaft-review/

    Posted:


Leave a Comment

Rich Text Editor. To edit a paragraph's style, hit tab to get to the paragraph menu. From there you will be able to pick one style. Nothing defaults to paragraph. An inline formatting menu will show up when you select text. Hit tab to get into that menu. Some elements, such as rich link embeds, images, loading indicators, and error messages may get inserted into the editor. You may navigate to these using the arrow keys inside of the editor and delete them with the delete or backspace key.