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best child club lines

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Besides the USA Kids line of clubs, what are the best clubs for kids? Ping, Callaway, and Cobra seem to provide decent lines? All opinions and advice is appreciated.

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Callaway Epic Flash Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 
Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 75
Callaway Heavenwood 20* - RCH 75w
Callaway 2017 Epic 4-PW, AW Project X LZ 95 Steel (PTIP)
Titleist Vokey SM6 Chrome 54.08M 
Titleist Vokey SM6 Chrome 60.08M
Scotty Cameron 2014 GoLo 7, Odyssey TriForce 2
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  • MB19MB19 Members  131WRX Points: 99Posts: 131 Fairways
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    This has multiple answers, it seems, and has been a topic of discussion on this forum.

    For beginners: USKids Ultralight and Flynn Velocity lines of clubs are quality products and are easy to hit. These clubs are sold as packages or as individual clubs. The Ping Prodi G line is prohibitively expensive for a young beginner, but for a child perhaps 9 or older it could be a good investment due to their Get Golf Growing promotion where you can swap out for longer and stiffer shafts free of charge if you purchase five or more clubs. Callaway, Cobra and Taylormade are generally thought to make inferior beginner sets to USK UL, Flynn Velocity and the Ping Prodi G lines. Of note, Flynn will not be sold at big box stores--it is mostly an online operation, but it is also the best option for customizing clubs for a child.

    For Intermediate/advanced junior golfers: USKids TourSeries, Flynn Alto and Ping Prodi G are the clubs one will typically find in the bags of kids playing at a USKids Regional Tournament/Worlds. A caveat--Cobra makes excellent lightweight drivers for juniors (F9 series is the current model) and you'll find these in the bags of many competitive juniors who aren't quite big enough to swing ladies/senior/mens clubs yet. Drivers are probably a sub-category all their own, though, and there are many paths to customization...many major brands' driver heads can be put on ultrilight shafts to create potent junior drivers.

    My personal adventure into the world of junior clubs is almost a year-old, and it started with a mixed, used set of Cobra Jr and Ping Pal I picked up at Play-it-Again Sports. These clubs got my kids started swinging, even though they were too big and heavy. I later bought a used Ping Moxie set, which ended up being a little short for my junior, and later moved to mostly USKG Ultralight and Flynn Velocity (and Flynn Advantage, a discontinued line). Woods and hybrids, moved through a bunch as well. The most important part is that the clubs are the right length and aren't too heavy, IMO.

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  • Mr. 31Mr. 31 Members  23WRX Points: 43Handicap: 12Posts: 23 Bunkers
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    Awesome info. Very much appreciated.

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    Callaway Epic Flash Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 
    Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 75
    Callaway Heavenwood 20* - RCH 75w
    Callaway 2017 Epic 4-PW, AW Project X LZ 95 Steel (PTIP)
    Titleist Vokey SM6 Chrome 54.08M 
    Titleist Vokey SM6 Chrome 60.08M
    Scotty Cameron 2014 GoLo 7, Odyssey TriForce 2
  • Kcct82Kcct82 Members  338WRX Points: 221Posts: 338 Greens
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    I’d like to add that Flynn clubs are not suited for kids shorter than 50” tall. They’re the equivalent of US Kids TS series. For kids shorter than 50”, go with US Kids UL’s (ultralights) in correct lengths.

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  • heavy_hitterheavy_hitter Members  3870WRX Points: 1,175Posts: 3,870 Titanium Tees
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    US Kids or Flynn.


    OEM's are toys.

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  • Evan_ParEvan_Par Members  14WRX Points: 19Posts: 14 Bunkers
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    This should be a sticky. Like me, I'm sure many people have been introduced to this forum when searching for kids clubs.

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  • heavy_hitterheavy_hitter Members  3870WRX Points: 1,175Posts: 3,870 Titanium Tees
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    I will rephrase my response.

    US Kids and Flynn. Ping ProdiG are good if you want to invest that amount of money. Cobra Junior Driver is good. Other than that, stay away from OEM's for junior clubs.

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  • Golfingdawg19Golfingdawg19 Members  493WRX Points: 219Posts: 493 Greens
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    Flynn has three or four different head weights to fit whatever level your junior is at. The folks that like Flynn usually point to the excellent customer service and the ability to customize things. I don’t think you can go wrong with Flynn or US Kids.

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  • Kcct82Kcct82 Members  338WRX Points: 221Posts: 338 Greens
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    US Kids Golf makes heads up to 30% lighter in their UL series. The lightest series in Flynn doesn’t even come close to being that light. The lightest Flynn’s heads are a few grams lighter than TS3-51’s (15% lighter), so they’re about 17% lighter than adult’s give or take. Trust me, I have a full set (irons and wedges) of UL-48, TS3-51, and Flynn Alto S1’s. The OP mentioned children so I just wanna make sure to include clubs for the younger ones (3-6 years old). At 7 years old and older, you’d be correct that Flynn has “different head weights to fit whatever level...”.

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  • MB19MB19 Members  131WRX Points: 99Posts: 131 Fairways
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    Are there weight differences between Flynn Advantage, Flynn Velocity and Flynn Alto series irons and wedges?


    It seems like a better rule of thumb to go by height/weight rather than pure age. My son was about 50”/ 62 lbs and 6.5 y.o. when I bought him a clearanced Flynn Advantage 7i and 51*, along with a 60* V2—all series 1 heads with steel shafts.

    Just before turning 7 he grew 2.5” and I had to buy him a longer, clearanced Flynn Advantage 7i and 51*, series 2 head...and he inherited his sister’s v2 56 and 60* with series 2 head/lightweight shaft.

    In between, I snagged a cheap, older gen TS 57-39 6i and 8i and they were far too heavy for him. That said, he could get around with the UL 60” 6/8/P his sister used with some choking up.

    Overall, if you measure your child and give them a UL set a size up from what they measure at, seems like that is a quality first set at a reasonable price they can use for a bit.

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  • Kcct82Kcct82 Members  338WRX Points: 221Posts: 338 Greens
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    Yes, I think using height/weight is better than age. My personal take on the bare minimum for TS3/Flynn would be 48” and 50lbs with swing speed above 55mph. To be honest I don’t think the results will be any better than using the UL series when you push it close like that. The only thing that MIGHT make a difference would be a lightweight OEM driver (gain a couple yards and tighter dispersion).

    Basically, just follow the US Kids guide line with the UL series up until your child reaches 48” and 50lbs. Then choose the right time to “upgrade” to Flynn or TS3 as long as your child is an intermediate golfer. Continue with those hybrids/irons/wedges and start playing around with OEM driver/woods. I don’t know anything about when kids can/should move on to ladies clubs. Someone else will have to chime in on that part.

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  • Golfingdawg19Golfingdawg19 Members  493WRX Points: 219Posts: 493 Greens
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    One thing I’ve learned throughout the junior golf process is lighter isn’t always better. I remember my daughter taking a lesson from her coach and he told me he loved the weight on her Flynn irons. He went on to say that he felt some of the US Kids clubs were too light. The analogy he gave me was trying to knock down bowling pins with a 6lb ball. Yes you throw it faster than the 10lb ball, but there is no mass behind it to do anything. Obviously at very young ages, you can’t go too heavy. Just be careful about always going with the lightest option.

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  • leezer99leezer99 Boy - 2026 Members  1886WRX Points: 1,217Handicap: A BillionPosts: 1,886 Platinum Tees
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    Why isn't anyone mentioning the iGen irons by Pat Dempsey? Great forged clubs with interchangeable weights made by a knowledgeable and respected coach. High end shafts as well.

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    Off-board discussions that I have had with others on these clubs is that they look very nice, specs seem great, and adjustable weights seem great also. Primary complaint is price. Secondary concern is will the irons be durable and last long enough to grow with them. As an example, when my kid moved from TS-51 to TS3-54, those TS-51's were pretty beat up and really only ready for a beginner to whack around some. I'd also note that I saw at least two IG accounts that I know that were stating how good the clubs were, yet that is not the clubs in their bag.

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  • Kcct82Kcct82 Members  338WRX Points: 221Posts: 338 Greens
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    We drove out to see Pat right before lockdown. He made a 7 iron for us to try, but it was really really heavy. I forgot the exact weight but the lightest configuration was the equivalent of 5-10% lighter. I believe that puts them in the TS3-57 range.

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    FYI - just found this great fit chart on the iGen site. What does everyone else think? Is it pretty accurate?



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  • heavy_hitterheavy_hitter Members  3870WRX Points: 1,175Posts: 3,870 Titanium Tees
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    I would buy them over any OEM. I seem to forget about those guys.

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  • wildcatdenwildcatden China Cat Sunflower Members  1284WRX Points: 680Posts: 1,284 Platinum Tees
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    This is the USKG 2014 TS Specs....I'm sure the new TS3 specs are very, very, very similar. A quick glance at comparing the iGen's specs for a 54" tall junior to the USKG 54" specs shows them within 1/2" to 1" of each other.


    Note: I don't see anything on the weight of the clubs for IGen?

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  • Kcct82Kcct82 Members  338WRX Points: 221Posts: 338 Greens
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    The Igen 7 iron head without any weights was 245g-250g (don’t remember the exact number). My kid’s Flynn Alto Series 1 7 iron head is 227.2g.

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    We've hit a demo 7i for the iGen and it was a nice club for sure. A tiny bit heavier than the Flynn Alto S2 club we are currently playing. I can't justify the price on them, even thought they might last an extra season. There's something to be said about the enthusiasm in the game my kid has when he has new equipment, versus old equipment that's just reshafted.

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    The igen’s could be the best clubs to purchase before moving onto adult clubs. Pretty much infinitely adjustable in loft/lie/weight for kids going through puberty.

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    I don’t know anything about the IGEN so I can’t give you any Feedback. My daughter started off in the Flynn clubs at 9 and loved them. When she got to 11 I moved her into adult irons and she had an adjustment period and then was fine. She is now on her second set of adult irons. I ordered the clubs with women’s shafts and cut them down to US Kids specs for her height. They had recoil shafts so the weight was fine. I think the only possible thing i could have done differently was maybe look into the Ping Prodigy series when I bought her first set of adult irons. They seem to be built really well and the price wasn’t too bad. I went with the adult irons because I got a good price bring that Im a high school golf coach and we get deals through some of the major companies. Had it not been for that, I would have gone with the Prodigy clubs.

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  • MB19MB19 Members  131WRX Points: 99Posts: 131 Fairways
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    Thanks for bringing these clubs up.

    I saw them being discussed in a different thread some time ago, but I've never actually seen a pic of them before until your other post in this thread

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    The issue with iGen is price (and are they USGA approved yet??) I can't really see them holding up over time enough to spend that kinda of money. You can get OEM cheaper than those clubs. Love the idea behind them with the weight good recoil shafts, nice custom options easy to bend lie angels, perhaps they are the best of both worlds. Haven't demoed those but the price sure will scare you away. Other odd thing is the PW is 48 but the GW is 50. Not sure I understand that logic or thinking.


    For those asking about the weight, the weight is close to the USKG 60 Specs or Flynn series 3 head. A bit heavier than normal for vs USKG golf if you are under 60. But about 10-15 grams or so lighter than the lightest OEM head. So Gives you adult technology with kids weighting.


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