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Jimmy Walker - Playing X100 Shafts in TS3 Driver/Fairway Woods @ Colonial

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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandUnregistered  2810WRX Points: 1,396Posts: 2,810 Titanium Tees
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    I loved the article. I still use TTDG-S300s in my 3- and 5-woods, so I can totally relate.

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  • pdaeropdaero Lefty Boomers  6057WRX Points: 188Handicap: 0.3Posts: 6,057 Titanium Tees
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    They did it for 43.5 and 45", but if they used the same shaft, they couldn't have tipped to length like Jimmy did. The shorter length led to greater ball speed, but the smash factor was still very low (<1.4).

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  • ThayneilThayneil Members  670WRX Points: 91Handicap: 11Posts: 670 Golden Tee
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    i watched the video dont think the shafts were tipped (3 wood 1inch only)

    Jimmy would be nearer 2 inch tipping i think at 44 and 3 for the 3 wood

    Ps I am big fan of txg videos and Ian /Matt

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  • No_Catchy_NicknameNo_Catchy_Nickname Kyushu,_JapanMembers  6321WRX Points: 1,577Handicap: mePosts: 6,321 Titanium Tees
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    "Compared to steel shafts, which were the driver shaft of choice for most pros until around the early 2000s..."


    That really surprised me. I remember even as a junior back in the late Eighties/early Nineties, most kids at my club and the ones we played matches against were using graphite shafts in our drivers, and quite a few had graphite shafts in their fairway woods as well. I got my first graphite shafted club around 1990; a TM Tour Burner driver (which I still have). Bearing in mind that a fair number of the pros playing in the early 2000s would have grown up in same timeframe, I'd have thought graphite shafts would have become the norm before that.

    Interesting to compare how steel overtook hickory within a decade, but graphite is still more uncommon than steel in irons and wedges

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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members  6329WRX Points: 1,763Handicap: 3Posts: 6,329 Titanium Tees
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    He is not the name that Jimmy Walker is but I see that Robert Rock has gone to steel in his woods as well. I can’t see it be a long lasting or wide spreading trend but it’s definitely nice to hark back to some days gone by.

    I can remember good players rocking up with steel shafts in their drivers up and until the Titleist 975J but after that, it was graphite all the way. I am sure that Tiger was a big part of it. In fact, it seemed like if you did every see someone with a steel shafted driver in the late 90’s or early 00’s it was always with a Titleist driver as well even when it came to the Tour Pro’s. I can recall Adam Scott and Paul Casey who were both considered bombers having steel in their drivers which were Titleist as well.

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  • NoCalHackNoCalHack Members  376WRX Points: 94Posts: 376 Greens
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    A tour player is good enough to hit anything. It’s why his numbers will be fine with it. But it’s also why this is a bad sign. He has access to any $500 graphite shaft he wants and can’t find one he likes. It means he’s hitting it badly. It reeks of desperation. Like having kids to save a marriage.

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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  14078WRX Points: 2,888Handicap: 3.1Posts: 14,078 Titanium Tees
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    Dear Jimmy

    Blueboard 103x, you’re welcome

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  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandUnregistered  2810WRX Points: 1,396Posts: 2,810 Titanium Tees
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    The problem for me is that you can't get them anymore. I've got one left in my inventory, and it's about 12 years old.

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    Driver     -     Cobra SZ Xtreme 9* w/ Aldila RIPX 75TX
    3W         -     Taylormade SIM Ti 15* w/ Aldila RIP Alpha 80X
    Hybrid   -      Callaway Mavrik Pro 20* w/ Project X evnflow black 85X
    Utility     -     Callaway Xforged 24* / Mitsubishi MMT 125TX
    Irons      -      Honma 737V / Mitsubishi MMT 125TX
    Wedges -      Callaway MD5 50S, 54S, MD4 60C
    Putter    -      Odyssey Versa 6
    Ball        -      Srixon Zstar XV

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  • J13J13 Dad golf MarylandMembers  16612WRX Points: 1,622Handicap: +1.6Posts: 16,612 Titanium Tees
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    haha yeah he's around. At one point he had the fastest street bike in the country. All kinds of proto parts ect... it was INSANE and had to be dismantled because you couldn't ride it.

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    3W         -     Taylormade SIM Ti 15* w/ Aldila RIP Alpha 80X
    Hybrid   -      Callaway Mavrik Pro 20* w/ Project X evnflow black 85X
    Utility     -     Callaway Xforged 24* / Mitsubishi MMT 125TX
    Irons      -      Honma 737V / Mitsubishi MMT 125TX
    Wedges -      Callaway MD5 50S, 54S, MD4 60C
    Putter    -      Odyssey Versa 6
    Ball        -      Srixon Zstar XV

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  • gators78gators78 ClubWRX  4040WRX Points: 235Handicap: 3Posts: 4,040 ClubWRX
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    Really curious of what weighting they had to do for the head to get it to the D4 or whatever spec he uses.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10855WRX Points: 3,965Handicap: 8Posts: 10,855 ClubWRX
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    Rock has not been relevant since the 2012 match play.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • GolfingfanaticGolfingfanatic Members  3836WRX Points: 737Handicap: 3.0Posts: 3,836 Titanium Tees
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    He had a putt for a 59 in the Irish Open last year. Plus he has one of the best swings in golf.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10855WRX Points: 3,965Handicap: 8Posts: 10,855 ClubWRX
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    Sure, great player, but didn't even win the Irish open..

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • nova6868nova6868 Members  5024WRX Points: 361Handicap: 2.1Posts: 5,024 Titanium Tees
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    Is it just me or is his swing a little different than it was a few years ago?

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  • Red4282Red4282 Members  1060WRX Points: 432Handicap: +0.2Posts: 1,060 Platinum Tees
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    Im sorry but the TXG test was laughable. They acted like it was a sledge hammer and you needed to be a monster to play it. Ummm didnt everyone use steel pre 95??? The seemed to hit it just fine, as a matter if fact since the inception of graphite, fairway percentage took a massive dip on the pga tour. Of course its going to be slower and shorter, but thats the point.

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  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10855WRX Points: 3,965Handicap: 8Posts: 10,855 ClubWRX
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    He probably has gotten away from stack and tilt due to back issues.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • QuigleyDUQuigleyDU Members, ClubWRX  10855WRX Points: 3,965Handicap: 8Posts: 10,855 ClubWRX
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    When you have played graphite your entire life in woods as Matt probably has. Picking up a steel shafted driver that is likely in the 100 gram range is going to feel very very heavy. If given time, he would adjust as we all would. But initially it is going to feel very heavy.

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
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    That was my takeaway as well. It was not a direct swap for his swing and it seemed they didn't try to fit the head to the shaft, just swap them out. I'd think if they started from scratch they could have put together a good combo for Matt using steel.

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  • GLF4EVRGLF4EVR Members  926WRX Points: 118Posts: 926 Golden Tee
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    I have an old driver TT steel shaft (not sure if it is an X or an S), that I stuck in a SLDR 12 degree near the end of last year. Used it on the range early into the start of this season. Have found it really helps with getting back the feeling of where my hands are in the downswing. Once that is obtained, kind of fun to try and unload on it. Can say I will consistently hit a straight ball with the thing. Not sure, but think the length is 43". So just from my POV, accuracy is the one thing I notice with it. After this weekend.......might actually try it on the course just for the fun of it.

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  • achappyachappy Bowie, MDMembers  1236WRX Points: 188Posts: 1,236 Platinum Tees
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    And we use that as a notion it applies to everyone? Matt has a very deliberate swing and probably has played graphite all his life so it's obvious weight could be a big impact to his timing.

    Those who grew up with DG in their woods and used the timing of the weight would know that feeling that Jimmy describes. It's like dropping a hammer on the end of a string into the ball.

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    Hmmm... I wonder who it could be... There have been a few posts recently where I thought. " I know this guy"...

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM 10.5 KBS TD 70TX
    3 iron Cobra King Utility Aldila Rouge 90 X flex
    4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
    WEDGES; CLEVELAND RTX4: 49 and 64
    WEDGES: Titleist SM7 54 and 60 KBS tour custom matte black shafts.
    PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
    BALL; 2019 ProV1 yellow/Snell MTB-X yellow
  • extrastiffextrastiff Members  1376WRX Points: 271Posts: 1,376 Platinum Tees
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    only thing I know of that would come close to a tipped X100 Weight and stiffness would be an mmt 125 hardstepped.

    I would say the only thing for sure close would be Brysons new 120 gram graphite shafts, I’d love to try those in a hybrid/3 wood

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  • molecularmanmolecularman Joplin, MOMembers  234WRX Points: 139Posts: 234 Fairways
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    Really, just that.

    From experience, a shaft that's heavier and a little softer helps me from getting too quick with the driver. You really get a good feel for the club falling into the slot. Lighter and stiffer and I really feel like the club is all over the place.

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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members  4001WRX Points: 2,008Handicap: 1.7Posts: 4,001 Titanium Tees
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    Definitely not laughable because guys weren't playing 130g steel @45". He had no problem swinging the steel at the more traditional length (for the time). A club that swing weights in the "E" range with a shaft that heavy is, by all measure, a sledgehammer.

    As far as people asking/speculating about Jimmy Walker's reasoning, he talks about it in this podcast:

    https://soundcloud.com/golfwrx/the-geardive-jimmy-walker

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  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 Foxboro, MAMembers  2897WRX Points: 281Handicap: +0.8Posts: 2,897 Titanium Tees
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    I ... HAD a Driver that weighed in at D8.5 with graphite .... YES! That was a freaking sledgehammer.


    I ... CURRENTLY swing my Super Hybrid 17° at D8.2. Will be taking some length off the butt. Sits at 42 1/2", going to go shorter a 1/4" at a time until it's right. (Edit, here, side note, shaft here is 104g shaft)


    Love to max out the weight, but eventually, you can cross the line of too heavy becoming counterproductive.

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    perhaps so, but he was also just trying crush everything which kind of defeats the point. Not to mention that even with a 130 gram shaft, the total weight if that build is what, 370-390 grams? A full 75 grams lighter than a 9 iron?

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    Someone send me a .335 x7 for my mizuno ladies 7w head plz thank you

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    Titleist 21* H2 evenflow blue 6.5
    718 tmb 4 iron
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    Someone send me a .335 x7 for my mizuno ladies 7w head plz thank you

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    718 tmb 4 iron
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    Vokeys
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    Various other putters currently in the closet,
    thinking about what they've done wrong,
    and how they've hurt me so.
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    I'm pretty Matt was just trying to maintain his speed to a certain extent to show how difficult actually doing that is/was.

    And yeah, total static weight is one thing, but obviously total MOI and how length factors in is the important part. If you were to use that logic, a 380g 9-iron @36" would feel that same as a 380g 9-iron @39", which obviously is not the case.

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