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  • StillCantPuttStillCantPutt Members  194WRX Points: 154Posts: 194 Fairways
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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    i got my shafts in - going to be at the range this afternoon -- whatever one i like more is going in the bag tomorrow for my pub links qualifier; STAY TUNED

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

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  • RonSwansonRonSwanson Honor: if you need it defined, you don’t have it. ClubWRX  1871WRX Points: 295Handicap: KidsPosts: 1,871 ClubWRX
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    Which two did you get again? I believe one of them was the White 2.0.

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    TaylorMade SIM 10.5* @ 9.5* - Rogue White 130 70 TX

    TaylorMade M5 TI 5 wood 18* @ 17* - Rogue White 130 80 TX

    Titleist U500 3 - MMT 105 TX

    Miura TC-201 4-PW - Modus 120 TX

    TaylorMade Hi-Toe Raw 50* @ 51*, 54* @ 56* ,60* @ 61* - DG TI S400

    TaylorMade Tour Issue Spider X Navy

  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    yes, white 2.0 and the aldila tour proto 1.0; both in 75TX tipped 1" and playing 44.5"

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • RonSwansonRonSwanson Honor: if you need it defined, you don’t have it. ClubWRX  1871WRX Points: 295Handicap: KidsPosts: 1,871 ClubWRX
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    Nice. I've been playing the Rogue White 70 TX, but have felt recently like I would prefer a "tighter" feel. Any thoughts on a comparison to that shaft would be much appreciated.


    And forgot we very similar spec'd drivers/shafts...Very interested in the results.

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    TaylorMade SIM 10.5* @ 9.5* - Rogue White 130 70 TX

    TaylorMade M5 TI 5 wood 18* @ 17* - Rogue White 130 80 TX

    Titleist U500 3 - MMT 105 TX

    Miura TC-201 4-PW - Modus 120 TX

    TaylorMade Hi-Toe Raw 50* @ 51*, 54* @ 56* ,60* @ 61* - DG TI S400

    TaylorMade Tour Issue Spider X Navy

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  • osubuckeyes691osubuckeyes691 Columbus, OHMembers  1266WRX Points: 391Handicap: 1.9Posts: 1,266 Platinum Tees
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    Can't wait to hear what you think @gioguy21 !

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    Taylormade SIM 8* - Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Taylormade SIM Ti 3w - Fujikura Ventus 7x
    Taylormade SIM Ti 5w - Fujikura Ventus 7x
    Srixon 745 4-PW - Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 - SST Pure
    Ping Glide 3.0 - 50SS, 54SS, 60Eye2
    Yes! Sally12 Std - Evnroll Gravity Grip
  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    Well, after a range session - I'm gonna go with the aldila 1.0 proto for tomorrow. Feels a touch softer than the white 2.0, and I don't feel like I need to go at it 110% to keep it where I want it. More to come.

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors  5158WRX Points: 445Posts: 5,158 Titanium Tees
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    Tipped 1 inch in the 2.0 75tx is very tight. The spin is super super low but it does require some heat at that tipping. These shafts are very sensitive to tipping and tighten up fast. I really did think you'd like that 1.0 proto. Testers have been comparing to the Kuro Kage Dual Core XT in the way it feels, maybe with a shade less spin.

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    Dear USPS, you suck. Was supposed to be delivered 2 days ago.

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    Driver: EF SZ Triple Diamond at 6.5* - T1100 6.5 tipped 1.5"
    Hybrid: G410 @ 16* - Evenflow Black 85x tipped 1.5”
    Ping i500 4i @ 20* - Modus 120tx
    Miura MC 501 4-P - Modus 120tx
    Bridgestone TourB XW1 50*/55* - X100
    Callaway MD 4 raw 60* - S400
    Scotty Cameron Catalina Two - original, oil can.



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    Anything on the KBS TD's?

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    Taylormade M3 9* with Tensei Blue 60g

    Taylormade M3 16*HL with Hzrdus Yellow Smoke 70g

    Mizuno MP-5's 3-PW with C-taper 125's / Cobra CB/MB 3-PW C-Taper 125's

    Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 Raw finish

    Cameron Studio Design 2 w Stability Shaft / Cameron Monterey Custom w Stability Shaft

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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, ABClubWRX  1165WRX Points: 340Handicap: 7.1Posts: 1,165 ClubWRX
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    I had some stuff shipped via USPS, and it took over a week to cross Los Angeles, through the various distribution points. Then it took another week to get from Los Angeles to Richmond (B.C.) Hopefully it'll get off the slow horse and onto one moving a tad faster.

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    **Gamer Bag**
    Driver: Taylormade SIM Max @ 8º (9.5) w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 6S
    Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16.5º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 75S
    Hybrid: Titleist 818 H2 @ 20º w/ Atmos Blue HB TS 8S
    Irons: Miura 4-6 (TC-201), 7-PW (MB-101) w/ Mitsubishi MMT 105TX (ss*1)
    Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º
    Putter: Artisan 0117

    **Retro Bag**
    Driver: Ping G LS Tec 9º
    Fairway: Titleist 915F 3W 15º
    Hybrid: Cobra Baffler Pro 2H 18º
    Irons: Taylormade RAC Forged TP CB 3-PW
    Wedges: Wilson Staff FG Tour PMP 52º; Nike VR Pro Forged Brushed Oxide Raw 58º
    Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach 1

  • mtg6193mtg6193 Damn you people, go back to your shantys Stuart, FLMembers  591WRX Points: 143Posts: 591 Golden Tee
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    It’s strange because I’ve sent probably a dozen or so things priority to all parts of the country lately and have had zero problems.

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  • gbang15gbang15 Members  18WRX Points: 39Posts: 18 Bunkers
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    secret prototype possibly the new Hzrdus rdx hexcel shaft?

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  • third-times-a-charmthird-times-a-charm Members  3364WRX Points: 1,456Posts: 3,364 Titanium Tees
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    Same here. Seems to be getting back to normal.

    Had a shaft Cali to Fl in 2 days, and MI to Fl in 2 days.

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    Epic Flash - Motore X F3 / Pro 2.0 7 / Apex 19h - Pro 2.0 8 / Apex 19 - Apex Pro 19 1050Gh HSx1 / MD5 / Phantom X5.5 - SS Mid Slim 2.0

  • nitramnitram WestOK, on the South Canadian Riviera Members  5909WRX Points: 521Handicap: -.6Posts: 5,909 Titanium Tees
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    JT, as always, a sincere thank you sir for taking the time to do this.

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    JBeam BM-435 Blackout 9* Accra TZ6 65 M5
    Exotics CBX 119 13.5* & 18* Accra TourZ 382 M5
    Exotics CBX 22* Accra TZ5-95H M5
    PING S55 5-P Mitsubishi MMT-125TX
    Chikara V1 Proto 51, 55, 59 KBS Tour X (8-iron)
    Cameron 009 Prototype (A010656)
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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors  5158WRX Points: 445Posts: 5,158 Titanium Tees
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    Happy to do it. I'll finish this one up in the next few days, then I have another feature planned.

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    well - my qualifier was great driving wise...it was other parts of my game that let me down. onto the next one.


    preliminary thoughts on these shafts-


    AV White 2.0 - This shaft is easily one of the most stable shafts i've played but does NOT feel like rebar. there isn't one iota of kick in it - you know where the head/clubface are at all times. that being said - i had to up the loft in this a bit b/c on the range it seemed like i had some knuckleballs (could've been the balls too tho). Overall i actually REALLY liked it b/c it was point and shoot - there was very little curvature of the golf ball to be had - loved a straight shot.


    Aldila 1.0 Proto - This one puzzles me. there are times when it swings alot like the AV 2.0, and there are times when it has definitive kick to it. not sure i have been able to tell the difference as to when...but when it does, i can hit a draw...when it doesn't, it goes straight or with a cut. the spin is very low with both of these shafts but, this shaft is a touch more playable for me.


    So far - im favoring the aldila---however, if i got my hands on a AV White 2.0 65TX it might make things interesting.


    more to come - i'm going to grab the sim sometime this week and get some numbers and some work done for you guys.

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • osubuckeyes691osubuckeyes691 Columbus, OHMembers  1266WRX Points: 391Handicap: 1.9Posts: 1,266 Platinum Tees
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    I've noticed anything that goes through the Elk Grove center in IL takes significantly longer than other USPS shipments. I currently have an Olson Retro putter sitting there right now. Very frustrating.

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    Taylormade SIM 8* - Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Taylormade SIM Ti 3w - Fujikura Ventus 7x
    Taylormade SIM Ti 5w - Fujikura Ventus 7x
    Srixon 745 4-PW - Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 - SST Pure
    Ping Glide 3.0 - 50SS, 54SS, 60Eye2
    Yes! Sally12 Std - Evnroll Gravity Grip
  • RonSwansonRonSwanson Honor: if you need it defined, you don’t have it. ClubWRX  1871WRX Points: 295Handicap: KidsPosts: 1,871 ClubWRX
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    I have had the same experience with that distribution center. Awful.

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    TaylorMade SIM 10.5* @ 9.5* - Rogue White 130 70 TX

    TaylorMade M5 TI 5 wood 18* @ 17* - Rogue White 130 80 TX

    Titleist U500 3 - MMT 105 TX

    Miura TC-201 4-PW - Modus 120 TX

    TaylorMade Hi-Toe Raw 50* @ 51*, 54* @ 56* ,60* @ 61* - DG TI S400

    TaylorMade Tour Issue Spider X Navy

  • SC-TX 88SC-TX 88 Members  1118WRX Points: 139Posts: 1,118 Platinum Tees
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    Thanks for taking the time to post the write up. A question that came to mind; I think you had tried the KK XD in the past, would you say the Raw White 2.0 is closer in terms of feel/performance to the XD then say the original Pro White?

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    SIM 9.0 w/ Kuro Kage XD 70TX tipped 1”
    SIM TI 3 (actual 15.4; set one click lower) w/Tensei Pro White 80 TX tipped 1.5”
    Miura MB 001 3-PW w/ PX LZ 7.0
    Artisan 51,55,60 inbound
    Toulon Las Vegas (Artisan inbound)
    Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS

    Course dependent: 3 iron replace with -  SIM Rescue 19 w/PW 90TX; TP UDI 3 w/ Fuji Pro 115 X; SIM 5 wood w/ Tensei Proto 90TX



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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    no. i think the Aldila 1.0 is actually closer to the XD...but similar to original tensei pro white TX in stability. the raw white 2.0 is honestly a lot more of a stronger av raw 1.0 (in TX)

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors  5158WRX Points: 445Posts: 5,158 Titanium Tees
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    I'd add, that 2.0 isn't a shaft for everyone. It's stout and very low spin, very sensitive to tipping and needs to be fit to the player. It's not one of those shafts that fits a ton of people, but those who it does fit will love it.


    The Aldila tour proto 1.0 is more like dual core XT in that it holds up under aggressive swings but still maintains some smoothness and load. It's a much better option for most people and lower speeds or guys who aren't super aggressive. I expect most will love this shaft.

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    I don't know, that putt on #2 was maybe the best putt I've ever seen without dropping. Hit me up if you need someone to fill a foursome.


    Had the pleasure of playing with Gioguy21 - he's a player. Good luck on next event. See you at mid-am

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    was a blast playin with you and the other Paul -- hope to play again soon.

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

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    Looking forward to your full thoughts on the products.

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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    I will be hitting my simulator either today or tomorrow. i gamed the white 2.0 yesterday --- now that i've played it i have a very different opinion of it. I like it more than the aldila tour - i'll have in-depth discussion/thoughts in the next day or so.


    Man they're both excellent tho -

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

  • Rosco1216Rosco1216 Members  3184WRX Points: 296Posts: 3,184 Titanium Tees
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    I’ve got dibs on the white 2.0 if you end up going to a 65 in it!

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    Driver: EF SZ Triple Diamond at 6.5* - T1100 6.5 tipped 1.5"
    Hybrid: G410 @ 16* - Evenflow Black 85x tipped 1.5”
    Ping i500 4i @ 20* - Modus 120tx
    Miura MC 501 4-P - Modus 120tx
    Bridgestone TourB XW1 50*/55* - X100
    Callaway MD 4 raw 60* - S400
    Scotty Cameron Catalina Two - original, oil can.



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  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers  8213WRX Points: 1,410Handicap: +1.5 (1194646)Posts: 8,213 Titanium Tees
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    how'd you know i was thinking of doing that...? lol i think a 65TX, tipped 1/2" would be IDEAL for me after how it played yesterday. sorry for not gettin back to your text -- i was out at a private lake these last couple days with no reception...it was heaven haha


    hmmm

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    SIM / 9* (set 1 tick higher loft) / RIPx 65TX tipped 2" playing 44.25"
    Epic Flash SZ / 3+ (set -1/N) / HZRDUS Smoke Black 75g 6.5 tipped 2"
    SIM Max 3H / Tensei PW Hybrid 100TX
    Apex MB Chrome / 3-PW / Modus 130 X
    MD4 Chrome / 52, 56, 60 / DG 115 S200 (for now)
    Piretti Tour 801R / 35.5"

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  • Rosco1216Rosco1216 Members  3184WRX Points: 296Posts: 3,184 Titanium Tees
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    Driver: EF SZ Triple Diamond at 6.5* - T1100 6.5 tipped 1.5"
    Hybrid: G410 @ 16* - Evenflow Black 85x tipped 1.5”
    Ping i500 4i @ 20* - Modus 120tx
    Miura MC 501 4-P - Modus 120tx
    Bridgestone TourB XW1 50*/55* - X100
    Callaway MD 4 raw 60* - S400
    Scotty Cameron Catalina Two - original, oil can.



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