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Tour Issue M3 head is super loud *UPDATE*

 Lloyd_Christmas29 ·  
Lloyd_Christmas29Lloyd_Christmas29 Members  351WRX Points: 80Posts: 351 Greens
Joined:  edited Jul 25, 2020 4:00am in Deal or No Deal? #1

Bought this off eBay. Visually everything seems in order. Seller seems reputable. 100% feedback and sells a lot of golf equipment. However, I get to the range tonight, and the driver sounds like a frying pan. Also the feel was terrible and the head felt much heavier than my sim. A little back story. I started the season with an m3 driver. Switched to a sim but haven’t been liking it so I decided to go back to another m3 head. My old m3 had much more of a “thwack” sound to it so I’m just thrown off. Performance wise it was hard to tell with range balls and I couldn’t see the landing area enough to tell if they were landing 250 or 290. Is it common for tour issue heads to be really loud? I will update once I compare on course with regular balls against my sim.

UPDATE*

Added a few grams of hot melt to try and tone down the sound a little and get the swing weight to D6. Since I’m using a 44.5 shaft the heavier weight in the head isn’t an issue. Sound still seems loud and feel seems on the harsher side but maybe I just got used to the Sim which is really muted in comparison. Anyways, I hit 13 fairways with it today and everything was flying my normal driver distance so if it’s a fake, I’m hitting a fake better than my Sim. Thanks for the replies.



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  • awtryau89awtryau89 Hoschton, GAMembers, ClubWRX  1577WRX Points: 322Posts: 1,577 ClubWRX
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    Did you weigh the head or get the weight on the sticker? I bet its in the 190s and that would include the sleeve. Most real tour issue heads come bone dry inside. By this I mean no hot melt or rattle glue. This way the tour truck can set the head up perfectly for the player that will be using it. Your head is real and probably just doesn't have any glue in it to mute the sound.

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  • swgolf12swgolf12 Members  1130WRX Points: 259Posts: 1,130 Platinum Tees
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    As previously mentioned, you got a tour head that has no hot melt/rat glue in it which they use to get the weight up and to mute the sound.

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  • Lloyd_Christmas29Lloyd_Christmas29 Members  351WRX Points: 80Posts: 351 Greens
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    That makes sense. I have not weighed it and it didn’t come with any stickers, just has the stamp on the hosel. I always see that tour heads have hotmelt so I expected this one to be quieter than normal if anything. Do you know of any way to quiet down the sound or where I can get it hot melted?

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    Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15 Speeder TS 8.2
    Titleist 818 H1 21 Speeder TS 8.8
    Titleist 712 AP2 4-9 KBS C-Taper 
    Titleist SM5 46-08, 52-08, 58-08, 60-07
    Scotty Cameron Golo OG
  • crsmith1234crsmith1234 Members  836WRX Points: 119Posts: 836 Golden Tee
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    I know you can send the head to will peoples and he will hot melt for a fee.


    Chris

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    Or you could buy a decent hotmelt gun and cartridge of glue for $125 from hotmelt.com

    Then you can still do other clubs later if you need.

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  • Lloyd_Christmas29Lloyd_Christmas29 Members  351WRX Points: 80Posts: 351 Greens
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    Will having no hot melt affect performance such as making it spin more? Or is it just about weight and sound?

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    Titleist 818 H1 21 Speeder TS 8.8
    Titleist 712 AP2 4-9 KBS C-Taper 
    Titleist SM5 46-08, 52-08, 58-08, 60-07
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  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9564WRX Points: 3,179Posts: 9,564 Titanium Tees
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    You would need a whole lot to make a measurable impact on spin,, but will for sure impact sound and weight. If all placed in one place (ie heel or toe) can impact draw or fade bias.

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  • swgolf12swgolf12 Members  1130WRX Points: 259Posts: 1,130 Platinum Tees
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    It should just be mainly sound, although depending on how much they use if they used a ton like 15+G it could marginally impact launch/spin depending on where it's placed.

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  • Lloyd_Christmas29Lloyd_Christmas29 Members  351WRX Points: 80Posts: 351 Greens
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    So I weighed the head and it is 203 grams without the sleeve. I want to hot melt it for the sound but I’m worried swing weight will get too heavy.

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    Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15 Speeder TS 8.2
    Titleist 818 H1 21 Speeder TS 8.8
    Titleist 712 AP2 4-9 KBS C-Taper 
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    It’s Simple. I bet there are YouTube videos that walk you through it. I have the “advanced” gun and I think it drops 2g of glue each full pull.

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  • TheMagicStingerTheMagicStinger Members  950WRX Points: 203Handicap: 7.6Posts: 950 Golden Tee
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    I forget about YouTube... I guess im concerned I would glue the wrong spot.

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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members  4022WRX Points: 2,028Handicap: 1.7Posts: 4,022 Titanium Tees
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    You can always buy aftermarket weights that are lighter than stock to make adjustments. Check the existing weights to make sure they are stock as well.

    @awtryau89 nailed it though. Tour Issue heads are almost always going to be lighter so they can be built up to spec for the player. A 203g head is on the heavy side for sure and could explain why it has no hot melt whereas a lighter one might.

    It is good to also consider the nature of the "Tour Issue" stuff that the public ultimately gets their hands on. These things aren't manufactured for the tour, just sorted for certain specs that are going to be more desirable for the tour player. This means that a lot of the time the "Tour Issue" stuff that ends up on eBay are the leftovers, things that are on the edges of those typically "desirable" ranges, like a heavier head for example. Don't be afraid to tinker with it, it is exactly what they they would do on the tour van. Swap weights, put hot melt in it etc etc.

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  • 14mh14mh Members  330WRX Points: 107Posts: 330 Greens
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    203 without the adapter seems heavy for a tour issue driver if it doesn't have hot melt already.

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  • ckayckay Members  4716WRX Points: 763Posts: 4,716 Titanium Tees
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    Pull the weights and see what they weigh. You can drop back down to 196 and add hotmelt to bring it back to weight and deaden the ting.

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  • VNutzVNutz Members  6867WRX Points: 787Posts: 6,867 Titanium Tees
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    Is there an access point to cotton-ball it? At this point I think that might be your only option given the weight.

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  • 86020818602081 Members  2144WRX Points: 252Handicap: 10Posts: 2,144 Platinum Tees
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    Chance it could be counterfeit?

    Frying Pan sound, heavier than it should.. It's most likely not a carbon crown?


    Look at the first picture on Serial number..


    There was a discussion on fakes ..



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  • Lloyd_Christmas29Lloyd_Christmas29 Members  351WRX Points: 80Posts: 351 Greens
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    Frying pan sound may have been an exaggeration. More of a loud “ting.” But I feel like my old M3 had more of a “smack” which is why I was thrown off. Performance was great today on the course actually, hit it incredibly straight and just as long as normal even though I still don’t love the sound and feel.

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    Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15 Speeder TS 8.2
    Titleist 818 H1 21 Speeder TS 8.8
    Titleist 712 AP2 4-9 KBS C-Taper 
    Titleist SM5 46-08, 52-08, 58-08, 60-07
    Scotty Cameron Golo OG

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