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Who else hates blind fairway holes?

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Used2PlayALotUsed2PlayALot Members  336WRX Points: 101Posts: 336 Greens
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There is a hole that has a straight ahead fairway but is blocked from plain view by large dunes

I have hit a dead straight drive to dead center of the fairway and could not find the ball.

Last 3 times on this hole, I hit some of the best drives of my life, and lost ball.

I hate that.

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  • savingparsavingpar Members  27WRX Points: 53Posts: 27 Bunkers
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    Preach on! I hate blind shots. Hard enough already to see your target hahaha lol

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    They are OK as long the blind fairway is wide enough and the rough not insane. But fairways that are impossible to see and instant ball losers for a minor error are unfair.

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    One local course near me the first hole is a double dog leg where the tee shot has to be played just to the right of a tree to find the left dog leg. It's a blind up hill shot. There is a driving range on the left and trees on the right. I hate it.

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    Worst is when it's the first time you're playing the course!

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  • NaptimeNaptime Members  697WRX Points: 132Posts: 697 Golden Tee
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    Just slows down play unless the carts share GPS data with the group behind. Aside from the ball finding delays. If we played to large galleries and forecaddies it would be different.

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  • TourSpoonTourSpoon I'd rather be driving a Titleist... Members  162WRX Points: 95Handicap: 4.5Posts: 162 Fairways
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    We have an interesting course here that was built on a recycled land fill that has plenty of elevations and some blind shots. The tee shots aren't too bad because there are some targets to aim at and there is one uphill par 3 that you can see the flag but not the green but its short and predictable. The one ridiculous hole is the par 3 9th that plays blind only from the tips at 243 yards. Now I don't play that far back but you can't even see the green from the tee box because it sits so far down the hill. Here is a 3D from Google Earth and the tee is far right.


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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 IowaClubWRX  21795WRX Points: 5,791Posts: 21,795 ClubWRX
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    Loved a couple blind shots in particular at Prestwick, Traigh and Brora. Played some others as well. Kind of fun, as a change.

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  • RSinSGRSinSG St George, UT (Formerly Palm Springs, CA)ClubWRX  3518WRX Points: 542Handicap: 7.3Posts: 3,518 ClubWRX
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    Funny stuff here - but true. I'm getting cataract surgery this month. I don't want to as my everyday vision is good enough and with glasses I can read, BUT I can't see the ball beyond 125 or so yards. Conversely, my golfing buddy who is a couple of years older than me has Coke Bottle reading glasses but he can tell you the number on a ball from 250 yards. (Exaggeration but you get my point.) He is always the one to find wayward tee shots.

    As far as blind tee shots, the only time they bug me is when I'm playing a new course without a guide. Its miserable to hit a perfect drive and not find your ball.

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  • ChancemanChanceman Members  970WRX Points: 315Handicap: 14Posts: 970 Golden Tee
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    Blind shots are part of life - why not in golf?

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    One of my long time golfing buds had his cataracts done 2 years ago. They input lenses and he's not 20/25 and doesn't wear contacts or glasses anymore. Sending good thought to you on comparable success!

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    Slightly off topic, but I detached my retina in my late 40s and the treatment results in a cataract. So I had both eyes done, picked a lens that corrected for mid-range and distance (for golf and driving) and have no issues on the course. I use readers but my golf vision is tremendous.

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  • RoodyRoody A little gust, Romes Rochester, NYMembers  1317WRX Points: 362Handicap: 5.1Posts: 1,317 Platinum Tees
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    Not as much as I hate uphill blind par 3 shots. My home course has two of them.

    As far as blind fairway shots, we have one at my home course. I don't mind it so much, the only thing that bothers me is there is a bell up just near the end of where most people can reasonably drive the ball to. And the group ahead is supposed to ring it when they're about to move ahead so the group behind can tee off. More often than you'd think, the groups forget to ring the bell.

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    You would hate golf in Western PA. blind fairways and blind approaches all over the place.

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    Guess you won't be playing the Dell and the Klondike at Lahinch then,

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    Blind shots are not a good idea on busy courses as it there are times where there is no way to know if it is okay to hit from the tee. We have one hole where you cannot see the green or the fairway so it is difficult to know when to hit. Anyway I prefer to be able to see where the ball ends up but I can see where other golfers might enjoy blind shots. I guess it is kind of fun to walk up to the green wondering if the ball stayed on or might be close and then surprise, it's in the hole!

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    I've played a few courses with bells or gongs and one that had a periscope.

    I think blind shots when constructed so as to obscure the landing area or portioning of a landing area but no to the point of not being able to see the group in front of you or to the point you don't know they are there is not good. Slows play.

    Similarly, greens obscured with a bunker or an infinity green are interesting when used once or at most twice a round. Just to the point the green surface is not visible. Or better yet, let there be an option (hopefully not readily recognized) from the tee that opens the view to the green surface from the fairway but the "easy" path results in a hidden green.

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  • CactusGolfCactusGolf ClubWRX  1876WRX Points: 75Handicap: 6Posts: 1,876 Platinum Tees
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    Not a big fan of the blind tee shots, mostly because they really slow up play since many courses don't have any way of knowing if the fairway is clear or not. I've played on a few courses with bells, but Goodyear Golf Club had a light system. Push the light when you leave the tee box, flip the switch when you reach the end of the fairway. It worked really well.


    Since I've been playing different courses this year, I had to buy a GPS that had the hole layouts.

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    This hole and periscope?

    I've played blind tee shots, and blind par-3s, and lots of others. My home club has an uphill blind par-3, two or three par-4s where I'm aiming over trees to get to the good part of the fairway, and maybe 2 or 3 more blind tee shots I think they're fine as an exception, not great when too frequent. My home course is pushing the frequency a bit, but I'm used to it by now.

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    I am not a fan of blind tee shots without someone at the hilltop letting you know it is safe to hit. I nearly killed somebody on such a hole in a club championship a few years ago.....

    walked over the hilltop to see him bleeding from a head wound....i was the third guy to hit in our threesome, all of us split the fairway.....we hit after we waited for 5 minutes on the tee after the other guy came back to re-hit while we were there because he lost his tee shot that was slightly right of center....

    the guy I hit had stayed down there to watch for his re-hit ball.....but he didn't see it so they looked and looked finally finding it. My ball caught him behind the ear as he drove his cart back across the fairway, in the air, no bounce. After slowing the bleeding, he kept playing and did surprisingly well on the last few holes. I kept playing did not do well, kept watching him in front of us hoping he wouldn't keel over.

    We should have gone to the hill crest to watch them but we were all walking & figured with somebody watching for the drive and only 1 ball left to hit from there 5 + min was plenty....we were wrong.

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    There is a local goat track that has ladders players climb to see if it is safe to play (hole #1, hole #6).

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    I don't care much for blind shots...to me it is a sign of poor golf course architecture.

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    If the OP really hit it dead straight in the middle of the fairway they would have found their ball.

    Nothing wrong with blind shots, tests players confidence and abilities. I find them kind of fun, especially when pull of a good shot required by the hole's architecture.

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  • smashdnsmashdn Let's cut them trees down. Members  2656WRX Points: 1,048Posts: 2,656 Titanium Tees
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    No, unfortunately not. I am not that widely traveled. It is near UK but not United Kingdom, rather University of Kentucky. Spring Valley has a hole that has a periscope. Great old club that has one of those well done old school designs with geometric features. It was built after WW2 so it must have been a conscious effort to build it in that style or it has been renovated to have those features.

    Lakewood Country Club in Russel Springs, KY has a gong you have to hit after playing a par five with a rolly polly fairway where you may not be able to see the green depending upon whether you are up on top of the hill or down in a valley.

    A local muni had a blind driving hole as the number one hole. It was a pain to get off the first tee as you had to drive up to ensure the group in front of you had cleared then you had to drive back to the tee, often having to clear the tee of the group behind you who thought you had already hit.

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    There is a blind shot on Pebble Beach. Actually there are a couple.

    I've always thought that Pebble Beach was kind of overrated.

    Something like 8 very good to exceptional holes and about 10 just good holes.

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  • RSinSGRSinSG St George, UT (Formerly Palm Springs, CA)ClubWRX  3518WRX Points: 542Handicap: 7.3Posts: 3,518 ClubWRX
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    Maybe not. I've played several courses where the fairway ran out unbeknownst to us. Into a ravine or impossible rough. Its easy to lose a straight 250 yard shot when the blind fairway ends at 240 yards.

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  • PepperturboPepperturbo Midwest and SouthwestMembers  16996WRX Points: 1,082Handicap: 4-5Posts: 16,996 Titanium Tees
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    With blind fairway area length of hole is not the determining factor for club choice. Where people error in judgment is pulling driver or any club that hits the ball so far that you can't see the ball finish. When I face similar conditions most times I either use 2i or 3i or even a shorter club and hit my ball to a landing area that is visible. If that means I have a long shot in from there or have to play a Par 4 as if a Par 5, fine. I'd rather have a chance to save par using a wedge or take a bogie than a double-bogie or more for lost balls. That to my way of thinking is course management.

    I am reminded of all the blind shots at The Home of Golf - St. Andrews and other UK courses, it's rather natural and common.

    Said it before and will again, I read what the designer intends and then measure up to the conditions, not the other way around. One thing you won't see me doing is making the same mistake over and over wishing it was different. 🤣 Good way to pad one's handicap though.

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