New From the T.P. Mills Co. 1310 Tradition!!

Nice looking putter there Glen, and that grip looks sick! Looks alot closer to the original Ansers then the current "Anser" styles in the market.

My favourite anser style putter in the WORLD!

I think I'm going to have to get an oil can one...

I'm not a plumbers neck guy, but that putter is absolutely gorgeous!

Kevin

Not sure that the looks bring anything new the market of "Anser style" putters but it looks nice especially with the sight dot.

Do you have any specs yet?

Not sure that the looks bring anything new the market of "Anser style" putters but it looks nice especially with the sight dot.

 

Do you have any specs yet?

They are all cut to length as they customer desires.

Loft = 3*

Lie = 71*

and as always, lie can be adjusted +/- 3*

Headweight = 344 grams

Jay

Not sure that the looks bring anything new the market of "Anser style" putters but it looks nice especially with the sight dot.

 

Do you have any specs yet?

well, to me, Mills have always seemed to be quite limited with plumbers neck products, so the new 1310 line gives buyers the opportunity to finally get Mills putters with their preferred neck style

i'm waiting out for the Softtail

what are the price points of these putters?

Perfect! Love the finished product, and that GripMaster is sweet!

what are the price points of these putters?

The First Fifty putters will be $599 + shipping.

Jay

It is obvious that this putter was really well thought out. It took years for Mr. Mills to actually put it into production.

Unlike another putter manufacturer who just chrun out one Anser copy after another with little regard to engineering and performance, but more towards aesthetics, stampings, and desirability.

This 1310 putter looks like it is skim-milled. Can anyone confirm? I'm not saying it is a bad thing at all. Just curious as to the manufacturing process.

Thanks.

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This 1310 putter looks like it is skim-milled.

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It's not skim milled.

Gorgeous.

It is obvious that this putter was really well thought out. It took years for Mr. Mills to actually put it into production.

 

Unlike another putter manufacturer who just chrun out one Anser copy after another with little regard to engineering and performance, but more towards aesthetics, stampings, and desirability.

 

This 1310 putter looks like it is skim-milled. Can anyone confirm? I'm not saying it is a bad thing at all. Just curious as to the manufacturing process.

 

Thanks.

Jick

They are not skim milled.

Skim milling is a term that is associated with cast putter heads. These heads were not cast.

They were milled from a forging.

Jay

here are a couple of pictures of the forging and the milled putter head is produced from the forging. This forging is pure 1030 carbon steel. We do not use cold rolled steel, it has too many impurities and imperfections.

jay

Not even close to skim milling. Skim milling is attributed to castings. I am sure we all have seen some off brands and components in brass , stainless or sometimes even carbon that have a standard shape but millmarks on the face. THATS skim milling.

Or to cast a head to a rough shape then cnc mill the rest of the head.

To have a forging made, THEN to mill it is in another league all together and not easy.

The shape may have an Anser type look- but the cavity, bumpers.....everything on it screams "TP Mills". Great work in my opinion.

what are the price points of these putters?

 

 

The First Fifty putters will be $599 + shipping.

 

Jay

dang it! :(

How many of these first 50 will be available in the uk and when can we see the other models with plumbers jay ?

How many of these first 50 will be available in the uk and when can we see the other models with plumbers jay ?

Paul's will be enroute this week to him in Brighton.

As soon as I get the other models, I will post pictures.

Thanks

Jay

Thanks for being upfront with the process.

This is actually better than "milling from a block of steel" because this method seems to have less wastage.

The putters are beautiful.

The price is just out of my league right now, and I'm not a big fan of oxidized finishes.

Once there is a production model of this in stainless steel, or in carbon steel that is plated - then you can count me in for one.

Great job by the people in TP Mills. You have definitely earned my highest respect.

So the putter is forged into the general shape above, then cnc'd/milled to the final shape?

What are the advantages of this process over milling straight from the single block (aside from wastage)?

I would suppose tighter grain structure? What else?

This is one of my favorite designs yet. When Jay and I were discussing this exciting new series of putters we were trying to come up with a cover that gave the "1310" meaning. I said that something that contained the address would be great, he mentioned a road sign and I ran with it.

As you can see the entire address is displayed on the headcover. You'll also notice the Oval 50. The oval obviously has a long tradition with the T.P. Mills Co. and it's used in this case to represent the "First 50" in this series.

Each model will have it's own color headcover and matching grip.

A lot of hard work went into this new series by all at the Mills Co. We're proud how it turned out...

Jim

So the putter is forged into the general shape above, then cnc'd/milled to the final shape?

 

What are the advantages of this process over milling straight from the single block (aside from wastage)?

 

I would suppose tighter grain structure? What else?

forgings are made up of purer metal, so when a forging is made from 1030 carbon steel, it is very nearly 100% 1030 carbon steel.

the grain patterns are tighter.

cold rolled steel is not as pure as a forging process

jay

Gorgeous putter.. and I'm curious to see how the other models will look.

So the putter is forged into the general shape above, then cnc'd/milled to the final shape?

 

What are the advantages of this process over milling straight from the single block (aside from wastage)?

 

I would suppose tighter grain structure? What else?

 

 

forgings are made up of purer metal, so when a forging is made from 1030 carbon steel, it is very nearly 100% 1030 carbon steel.

 

the grain patterns are tighter.

 

cold rolled steel is not as pure as a forging process

 

jay

Is there a name/techincal term for this process?

TIA

what are the price points of these putters?

 

 

The First Fifty putters will be $599 + shipping.

 

Jay

uh, this new line of putters by mr. mills looks incredible, and i'm sure they will be of the highest quality like all the other putters he does...BUT...since when is $599 + shipping considered "affordable"?

what are the price points of these putters?

 

 

The First Fifty putters will be $599 + shipping.

 

Jay

 

uh, this new line of putters by mr. mills looks incredible, and i'm sure they will be of the highest quality like all the other putters he does...BUT...since when is $599 + shipping considered "affordable"?

I think the normal production ones are $379?

the 599 price is only for the first 50

Jay and Jimmy correct me if I'm wrong

what are the price points of these putters?

 

 

The First Fifty putters will be $599 + shipping.

 

Jay

 

uh, this new line of putters by mr. mills looks incredible, and i'm sure they will be of the highest quality like all the other putters he does...BUT...since when is $599 + shipping considered "affordable"?

I think the normal production ones are $379?

the 599 price is only for the first 50

 

Jay and Jimmy correct me if I'm wrong

ok, that's a bit more reasonable...but still not what i would consider "affordable". affordable is what you would call the ping karsten series, odyssey dfx series as well as a host of other putters that can be had well under 2 bills.

no offense to the mills co. as they make some spectacular putters as i've seen his handmades in person, but certainly not what i would call affordable.

as a comparison, i've never heard of anyone calling a scotty cameron "affordable", and they can be had well under 3 bills if you go through the right sources.

now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the price isn't justified(sorry for the double negative), but i guess i'm in a lower class of society if this is considered affordable.

ok, that's a bit more reasonable...but still not what i would consider "affordable". affordable is what you would call the ping karsten series, odyssey dfx series as well as a host of other putters that can be had well under 2 bills.

no offense to the mills co. as they make some spectacular putters as i've seen his handmades in person, but certainly not what i would call affordable.

as a comparison, i've never heard of anyone calling a scotty cameron "affordable", and they can be had well under 3 bills if you go through the right sources.

now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the price isn't justified(sorry for the double negative), but i guess i'm in a lower class of society if this is considered affordable.

i think the term 'affordable' would be directed at the product rather than the class of products or the class of buyer

of course the karsten or white hot are affordable, but we're talking about a milled putter from a high-end putter maker here

before, if one wanted a tp mills putter with a plumbers neck, they would need to have it custom made and that would definitely be less affordable than the 1310 line

just like cars, the C class would be an affordable mercedes, and you really can't compare it to a toyota yaris

i'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, but this is just my take on it

what are the price points of these putters?

 

 

The First Fifty putters will be $599 + shipping.

 

Jay

 

uh, this new line of putters by mr. mills looks incredible, and i'm sure they will be of the highest quality like all the other putters he does...BUT...since when is $599 + shipping considered "affordable"?

I think the normal production ones are $379?

the 599 price is only for the first 50

 

Jay and Jimmy correct me if I'm wrong

 

ok, that's a bit more reasonable...but still not what i would consider "affordable". affordable is what you would call the ping karsten series, odyssey dfx series as well as a host of other putters that can be had well under 2 bills.

no offense to the mills co. as they make some spectacular putters as i've seen his handmades in person, but certainly not what i would call affordable.

as a comparison, i've never heard of anyone calling a scotty cameron "affordable", and they can be had well under 3 bills if you go through the right sources.

now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the price isn't justified(sorry for the double negative), but i guess i'm in a lower class of society if this is considered affordable.

Affordable when you consider these are not mass produced putters. Each one of these 1310 putters will pass through the hands of David Mills for inspection, hand finishing, oxide application, paintfill, etc. I'm sure Jay can get into the details further. They are FAR from off the assembly line and out the door putters. Not to mention the materials are the highest quality...

If you're comparing these to Ping Karsten or Odyssey DFX putters, then you're comparing apples to oranges.

Little personal story...I'm often approached by individuals around my club and at other courses whom are shocked by the values/prices of some of my personal putters that I have/had. Many of these individuals are lawyers, accountants, doctors, etc. I start my response by asking them how much their company/firm charges for their time per hour. Before they can answer, I say how many hours do you think it took to make this putter by hand or to hand finish? I usually get the response.... "Good deal".

Jim

Little personal story...I'm often approached by individuals around my club and at other courses whom are shocked by the values/prices of some of my personal putters that I have/had. Many of these individuals are lawyers, accountants, doctors, etc. I start my response by asking them how much their company/firm charges for their time per hour. Before they can answer, I say how many hours do you think it took to make this putter by hand or to hand finish? I usually get the response.... "Good deal".

 

Jim

Good story. It can be easy sometimes to lose sight of the amount of work that goes into these putters.