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  • CallawayKid86CallawayKid86 Proud Member of Big Blue Nation!! Advanced Members Posts: 3,331 ✭✭
    HitaHouse wrote:


    I did some grinding on an old Hogan Sure On wedge tonight. My objectives were to straighten the leading edge and make it more blunt, square up the toe, roll the trailing edge, and ease the edge around the back of the head. I also wanted to lighten it up as it was 308g and now is 303g. The pictures show the modified head next to an unmodified head. This is after grinding and belt sanding and I'll do some more with a file and sandpaper. It definitely looks better and I could envision playing it with the straighter, blunt leading edge. These were originally 55 deg fairway wedges and I would probably set it to 53-54 degrees. It still has kind of an odd look to it - too boxy looking, the toe is too high, the top line too thick?? These old forged Hogan wedges are inexpensive and nice to practice on




    Excellent job sir. What did you use to grind? My brother has an old bench grinder sitting in his garage and I have been thinking about getting it from him to play around with. I have a few old wedge heads I can practice on.
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  • HitaHouseHitaHouse Advanced Members Posts: 126
    Thanks for the feedback. I used a small bench grinder for the heavier grinding and a belt sander for the leading edge and smoothing out steps. I'm a still a hack and the lower power machines are nice so you don't take off too much too fast. I did polish this up, shafted it, and my first shot with it was a hole out chip shot. It's a decent wedge, looks cool, and will be in the bag for a while. A bench grinder is all you need to do some experimenting - let s know how it goes.
  • JudeJude Advanced Members Posts: 228
    joey3108 wrote:


    Here is the one i did for a player!



    Refinished it w/ bead blast finish!



    I'll add some more pics when i have time and found all the pics.




    What type of blast material did you use?. I tried a sandblaster on one of my old chrome wedges and basically removed the chrome to the nickel finish in some spots.
  • Rbh32Rbh32 Regular Guy Advanced Members Posts: 144
    60-10 with what I think would be a Miura/JP type heel grind. I can definitely tell a difference in bounce after this grind. Have to get used to it though, this is my first time actually gaming a lob wedge, but could not stand that giant hunk of metal back there. This makes it thinner, and I wanted to play with my Dremel. 👻
    RBH
  • NooneyNooney Members Posts: 50
    I was wondering what does a rounded/cambered sole do? I have a set of older irons that I hit better than my new set that have a rounded sole
  • Lagavulin62Lagavulin62 Advanced Members Posts: 1,889
    I'm in the market for a grinder and as soon as I buy and mount to my workbench I think I will give this a shot, just because it looks fun. What type of wedge do you suggest starting with, if that matters? My instincts tell me a nice thick sand wedge due to the fact there is more to grind off to my liking. Then again I know loft is a consideration. But I'm thinking a lob range that can be used for tight lies, as I tend to find the beaten down parts around the green often. What do y'all think?
  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Advanced Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Here's my first attempt at a grind, not sure how to classify it though, M-ish??? Used a stone wheel bench grinder and took about 12grams off, will be needing more lead tape! Hopefully now, my tight-lie flops will be easier to get under...



    Added a little stamping while the head was off too.

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  • CallawayKid86CallawayKid86 Proud Member of Big Blue Nation!! Advanced Members Posts: 3,331 ✭✭
    A.Princey wrote:


    Here's my first attempt at a grind, not sure how to classify it though, M-ish??? Used a stone wheel bench grinder and took about 12grams off, will be needing more lead tape! Hopefully now, my tight-lie flops will be easier to get under...



    Added a little stamping while the head was off too.

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    That looks excellent for your first shot. Great work!
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  • Gh0stGh0st Advanced Members Posts: 76
    is it possible to polish a wedge with a grinding wheel?
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  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Advanced Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭
    edited February 2017
    Gh0st wrote:
    is it possible to polish a wedge with a grinding wheel?


    That's exactly what I used, just be deliberate and use caution cause the stone wheel works fast.

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    Just removed some of the guards from the grinder and went at the head with some leather gloves on.



    Polishing is better done by hand or with a very fine belt sander. The stone wheels really chomp material quick/abrasively.
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    Vokey 56(57*), 60(63*) DG-R400
    Byron DH89 Longneck 33" (or any of 10 4 other putters...)
  • Lagavulin62Lagavulin62 Advanced Members Posts: 1,889
    When I think of polish I think of something used on silver. I know big difference, but how is a grinding wheel going to get that grind smooth and shiney like a new Vokey?
  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Advanced Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭
    Most wedges have a finish applied to the steel head in the first place, like chrome, which adds the majority of the SHINE to a Vokey etc. But, you can hand sand the RAW steel smooth cause I do it all the time with putters. If the finish is just dull and lightly scratched, start with 200 grit sand paper to remove the blemishes and work your way up through 1500 and higher. Once you are up in the 2000+ range the metal should start to be almost mirror-like and a simple Car polishing compound should bring it to a perfect POLISH.



    If your club is already smooth just take the polishing compound straight to the head. I use Meguire's polish but have yet to do any full swing clubs cause they just chatter around in the bag anyway. Good luck.
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    '16 M1 3w HL 17*, Xcon 7-S(untipped) 41"
    Ping Rapture 3i, AWT-R
    Ping G25 4-G, DG-R400
    Vokey 56(57*), 60(63*) DG-R400
    Byron DH89 Longneck 33" (or any of 10 4 other putters...)
  • Lagavulin62Lagavulin62 Advanced Members Posts: 1,889
    That makes sense. Thanks Princey.
  • A.PrinceyA.Princey Major Hacker Advanced Members Posts: 1,953 ✭✭
    Finally got out on the course to try my new grind. Well, the club seems to get the ball up quicker and I no longer need to open the face entirely up to get a really high flop. I have yet to try any full shots but I am hoping this is a sign that it will effectively play at a higher loft when squared to the ball. Full shot distance used to be 85yds, would be nice to get it closer to 50-60.
    Ping G 10.5*, Fuji Pro 63-R 43"
    '16 M1 3w HL 17*, Xcon 7-S(untipped) 41"
    Ping Rapture 3i, AWT-R
    Ping G25 4-G, DG-R400
    Vokey 56(57*), 60(63*) DG-R400
    Byron DH89 Longneck 33" (or any of 10 4 other putters...)
  • wrxmanwrxman Philippians 4:13 Banned Posts: 390
    edited March 2017
    Looks unreal, may need to send you my 60 (8) MD Forged wedge once it comes, so I can get it ground to 60 (4). Tried it on a table grinder and didn't turn out well to say the least.
    ---WITB---

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    3 Wood: XR16 14.5* w/Project X LZ 60 Handcrafted
    Driving iron: Taylormade M2 L.I.F.T. 17* w/KBS Tour Hybrid Proto 85
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  • greengolfer54greengolfer54 Advanced Members Posts: 135
    joey3108 wrote:


    Some of you guys asked me before if i could show you guys a step by step process.



    Be aware that operating your tool without caution may give you a severe injury.



    It looks very easy but if you never tried it, you will never know how hard it is to make them perfect.



    Hope this is help some of your questions.



    Joe

    Great work!
  • threeput4parthreeput4par Members Posts: 14
    very nice work!
  • awfidlstxawfidlstx Advanced Members Posts: 78
    what do you do to add the lost weight? Sorry if someone already asked
  • vjtexpvjtexp Advanced Members Posts: 82
    Have y'all had good luck with re-grooving wedges?
  • Aaronwilson_95Aaronwilson_95 Advanced Members Posts: 810 ✭✭
    While Joe didn't do these I had a set off lob wedges from the MD Forged that I took a bunch off bounce off the back end . Easier to handle around the greens and hard pan bunkers (for me ) out off fluffier bunkers I'll use my 54 bent to 56 to make it have 12 degrees off bounce . With this combination my short game has improved drastically in the few greens a round that I do miss . You gotta know what your doing and make sure you never take the lob wedge off dirt grass (lack of base layer ) or you're digging lol
  • sleezytsleezyt Advanced Members Posts: 361 ✭✭
    What would happen to a ping glide 2.0 if i were to grind some bounce off and more heel relief? Shouldnt rust right?
  • JeffPhelpsJeffPhelps Members Posts: 20
    We did miura and sm6 gringing. miuras were way easier to grind on
  • wrxmanwrxman Philippians 4:13 Banned Posts: 390
    Could a grinder such as this be used to grind a wedge/tune ferrules? https://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-x-36-inch-belt-6-inch-disc-sander-97181.html



    Thanks in advance



    All the best,

    Dom
    ---WITB---

    Driver: M2 2017 8* w/Project X PXv 39
    3 Wood: XR16 14.5* w/Project X LZ 60 Handcrafted
    Driving iron: Taylormade M2 L.I.F.T. 17* w/KBS Tour Hybrid Proto 85
    Irons: Apex Pro 5-PW w/Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120
    Wedges: Milled Grind Antique Bronze 50, 55, 60 w/Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Custom
    Ball: TP5X
  • getitdailygetitdaily Advanced Members Posts: 2,432 ✭✭
    Back in July I bought sm6 wedges...54 and 60 - both s grind. I demo'd the **** out of the wedges one Saturday and found i really liked the turf interaction of the s grind. I especially live the s grind 60. Now, around the greens and for full shots, the s grind 54 is awesome. BUT, my bunker play really started to suffer. I'm a fat and runner in the bunkers and that s grind was just digging way too much.



    Last weekend I hit the bullet and picked up a 54-14 sm6 and practiced with it this morning. The higher bounce was immediately noticeable in the bunkers. It was like my old bunker game came right back.



    However, around the greens I wasn't impressed. The turf interaction is so much different and I hit more shots a touch heavy.



    I notice callaway has a 54-12 and will trade the vokey unless you wedge masters can tell me what grinding the vokey from 14 to 12 will do. Will it make the club a digger in the bunker? Will the 12 degrees be as noticeably better around the greens? It's like I can feel the back of the flange bump the ground with the 54-14...and I don't like it.
  • bluejeeprubibluejeeprubi Advanced Members Posts: 1,019 ✭✭
    Has anyone tried grinding a pm wedge? I have a 64 but it has too much bounce.
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  • wareagle12wareagle12 Advanced Members Posts: 304
    If I want to lower the leading edge on open shots would I just add heel relief and leave the toe radius as is? What does grinding the toe radius do? Just to keep balance?
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  • twjamestwjames Advanced Members Posts: 227
    nice job

    How much?



    While Joe didn't do these I had a set off lob wedges from the MD Forged that I took a bunch off bounce off the back end . Easier to handle around the greens and hard pan bunkers (for me ) out off fluffier bunkers I'll use my 54 bent to 56 to make it have 12 degrees off bounce . With this combination my short game has improved drastically in the few greens a round that I do miss . You gotta know what your doing and make sure you never take the lob wedge off dirt grass (lack of base layer ) or you're digging lol




    Great look.
  • twjamestwjames Advanced Members Posts: 227
    What is the best way to grind a wedge at home for heel relief?
  • PorkerPorker Advanced Members Posts: 275
    Awesome work Joe, would chrome need to be removed first before you grind a wedge?
  • 00ogopogo00ogopogo Poa Made Me an 8 Advanced Members Posts: 82
    nice thread
  • twjamestwjames Advanced Members Posts: 227
    easy to get much needed heel relief.
  • Derek666Derek666 Advanced Members Posts: 1,482
    edited March 2018
    I'd be interested to get my MP33's with this type of sole grind, do you think this would be do-able as a DIY or would it require someone with mad skills?



    After reading a bit more its the rounded type grind i'd be interested in not the W i thought they were similar but they are not.



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    Or theres a more rounded grind but both look very playable.



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    Last Pic shows the trailing edge grind a bit better.



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  • RobotDoctorRobotDoctor Senior Hacker ClubWRX Charter Members Posts: 4,262 ClubWRX
    I just added this Miura 52 degree GW to my collection. The first two pictures show the pre-grind wedge. The primary purpose of this wedge is going to be a fairway/rough advancing club between my PW and LW (of course). I also want to be able to use this from normal grass conditions (lush grasses but not saturated with too much water) to dry conditions. This is the spectrum of Colorado golf. I will also be using this as a 3/4 wedge shot to cover 60-80 yards as well with a little spin. Finally I hope to use this wedge for moderate length greenside bunker play as well. In all, I want a versatile wedge to handle a wide spectrum of bread and butter shots, nothing too extravagant.



    I used a dremel tool with a course grit drum bit, a medium grit drum bit, a "flap sanding" bit (see images), a medium metal file, a fine metal file, 120 and 180 grit wet/dry sandpaper. A bit of patience and a steady hand. I would have rather used a belt sander but I don't have one and I wasn't going to buy one just for this purpose. I find using a dremel drum bit works when using a metal file to remove the uneven grinding. Patience is the key. Final swing weight is D4 for the GW. I added the lead tape to get the weight to D5 as an inbetween of my PW (D4) and LW (D7).



    I took the wedge out to the range this evening and it performed really well. So well in fact that I am willing to put it in the bag for my 2 day tournament starting tomorrow. Talk about trial by fire. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
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    Ben Hogan '99 Apex Blades (3-PW) Nippon Modus Tour 120 stiff
    -or-
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  • JayMattJayMatt Advanced Members Posts: 92
    Pretty Cool
  • soulcicciasoulciccia Advanced Members Posts: 191
    edited July 2018
    Here's my last job...sandwedge was grinded to match sole profile of 962 irons, lobwedge was back grinded (from full sole to v grind sole).

    Used a bench grinder and refinished with sandpaper on rotatory tool.

    lost 3 grams in the sw and 6 grams in the lw
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    W titleist 906 f2 15° w/ aldila nv 95x
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  • TzoidTzoid Advanced Members Posts: 1,633


    I just added this Miura 52 degree GW to my collection. The first two pictures show the pre-grind wedge. The primary purpose of this wedge is going to be a fairway/rough advancing club between my PW and LW (of course). I also want to be able to use this from normal grass conditions (lush grasses but not saturated with too much water) to dry conditions. This is the spectrum of Colorado golf. I will also be using this as a 3/4 wedge shot to cover 60-80 yards as well with a little spin. Finally I hope to use this wedge for moderate length greenside bunker play as well. In all, I want a versatile wedge to handle a wide spectrum of bread and butter shots, nothing too extravagant.



    I used a dremel tool with a course grit drum bit, a medium grit drum bit, a "flap sanding" bit (see images), a medium metal file, a fine metal file, 120 and 180 grit wet/dry sandpaper. A bit of patience and a steady hand. I would have rather used a belt sander but I don't have one and I wasn't going to buy one just for this purpose. I find using a dremel drum bit works when using a metal file to remove the uneven grinding. Patience is the key. Final swing weight is D4 for the GW. I added the lead tape to get the weight to D5 as an inbetween of my PW (D4) and LW (D7).



    I took the wedge out to the range this evening and it performed really well. So well in fact that I am willing to put it in the bag for my 2 day tournament starting tomorrow. Talk about trial by fire. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />




    what's up with the Swing Weight Tape? That's not enough to be a swing weight.
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  • dunndunn Advanced Members Posts: 6,353 ✭✭
    joey3108 wrote:


    THX!



    Here are some more w/ M grind combine w/ P grind on it.



    The P grind is act like a second bounce, It kicks the club up...thus it will lift the ball up and drop it soft on the green, especially out of the bunker. The M grind will still allow you to lay the club open from a tight lie. This combination grinds will allows the players to be a bit more aggressive from almost any lie.
    those cally x tours were great, nice job
  • AJDeffGolfAJDeffGolf Members Posts: 17
    Metalhead wrote:


    Joe- sure hope OSHA doesn't see these pics...man you shop is a mess..wires everywhere....but Genius survives in chaos!! Great pics and step by step Joe, thanks josh


    Lol i was thinking the same thing. Got me with the cord looped around the nail in background image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />
  • UndonersgUndonersg Advanced Members Posts: 90
    I would love to try this, but terrified that I will mess it up!
  • MSG Kunert-zero3PuttsMSG Kunert-zero3Putts Members Posts: 53
    All the parts can be bought super cheap at Harbor Freight to try this. Does anybody have any pics of this job attempted on the Callaway MD3 or MD4?
  • A_G GolfA_G Golf Advanced Members Posts: 91 ✭✭
    I've been interested in doing some of this stuff myself so thank you for showing us how it's done!!!
    Driver: Ping G400 LST, Hzurdus Yellow
    3- Wood: Cobra F8+, Hzurdus Black
    Irons: Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 3-PW, KBS Tour C-Taper X 130
    Wedges: Titiliest SM6 50* and 60*, Taylormade Spin Milled 56*
    Putter: Bettinardi BB1 (SummerLovin)
  • pcedenspcedens Advanced Members Posts: 77
    joey3108 wrote:


    Some of you guys asked me before if i could show you guys a step by step process.



    Be aware that operating your tool without caution may give you a severe injury.



    It looks very easy but if you never tried it, you will never know how hard it is to make them perfect.



    Hope this is help some of your questions.



    Joe





    Love grinding wedges!
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