Byron Morgan 007 or C&L 1, with or without sound slot?

I've decided, based on the feedback I've read on the various to either buy a BM 007, or a C&L -1. Hopefully they will ship to Europe...

However, I'm interested in the views of those who have used both, and i'm interested in the differences to feel/sound the slot makes.

Finally, which finish would you recommend - the "black star" finish looks great on the BM 007, however their website only offers Black oxide, satin, or triple polish.

Cheers - David

I will ship anywhere in the world. The order sheets on the website might not offer every option. With carbon putters coldstar,copper plate,oil can,black oxide are the finishes.Send me a pm and we can talk about a new Byron

Just do as I do, GET THEM BOTH!!!!

I cannot comment on C&L putters as I have never putted with one. However, I read that they are outstanding all the time. I don't ever recall reading a bad review of this putter so I believe them to be tremendous.

I own a Byron Morgan 007x with Rincon neck finished in misted Coldstar finish. This is one fantastic putter: great balance, weight, feel, looks, etc. Byron Morgan is a very talented putter designer and maker and the proof is in his work. I would never hesitate in purchasing a putter from Byron. Steve (ZMan) is a terrific representative for Byron and will make sure you get what you want. This is a first class organization producing first class products.

good answer.. they both look fabulous.

How do you choose WITB on a given day?

If pressed, which would you choose on a 40footer, and on a 5 footer?

i love my sound slot. it provided execellent feedback

I have had both. Two C & L floating face models and 3 Byron OO7 sound slot models. I still have one of each. A chrome C & L and an Oil Can Byron.

Both are great putters, but they have different looks. The C & L has rounded bumpers while the OO7 has flatter bumpers. The Byron hs a thinner topline while the C & L is thicker at address. IMO the C & L has a softer look than Byron. I have never been disappointed in my decision to use sound slot putters from either maker. I have always liked the additional audio they provide me.

Price is a wash as they are close, if not the same in price. Both makers are amazing at handstamping so your requests should be no issue either.

BEst of luck with your decision.

To those with both..

Carbon or SS?

Which from 40ft, which from 5ft?

Sound slot I'm heraring is a good thing...

As a practical matter, isn't a sound slot problematic on a carbon steel putter as moisture can reside in the slot and corrode (like a cancer) a masterpiece putter from the inside?

This is a real consideration for those of us in the pacific northwest.

To those with both..

 

Carbon or SS?

Which from 40ft, which from 5ft?

Sound slot I'm heraring is a good thing...

Feel is subjective, but IMO carbon. I perceive it as softer than stainless. I also prefer a darker finish on my putters than stainless typically affords.

As a practical matter, isn't a sound slot problematic on a carbon steel putter as moisture can reside in the slot and corrode (like a cancer) a masterpiece putter from the inside?

 

This is a real consideration for those of us in the pacific northwest.

A carbon putter is problematic as a whole (regardless of the sound slot), but is easier to maintain if it is plated. If you follow basic guidelines such as drying your putter after shots or after the round, don't store your putter in a wet headcover, and apply a 3 and 1 oil or CRC Silicone spray between uses you will be fine.

Other members in tropical climates use carbon putters with sound slots and they have no issues.

If you don't want to worry then you should probably get a plated finish, or go with stainless. Always remember though, even stainless or plated finishes will oxidize if they are stored in a wet headcover.

Herd8497. Sorry to be so Naïve... but what is a plated finish?

Herd8497. Sorry to be so Naïve... but what is a plated finish?

Some sort of nickel or copper plating that is applied to the carbon steel. A plating with a rust resistant finish will aid in preventing rust. A number of people offer plating services, Geoputters, Putterplating, Slighter golf (in the Seattle area), etc. Unless golf is played in late July through September, only, I would definitely get the putter plated.

Herd8497. Sorry to be so Naïve... but what is a plated finish?

 

Some sort of nickel or copper plating that is applied to the carbon steel. A plating with a rust resistant finish will aid in preventing rust. A number of people offer plating services, Geoputters, Putterplating, Slighter golf (in the Seattle area), etc. Unless golf is played in late July through September, only, I would definitely get the putter plated.

Carbon steel without plating is not a great idea unless you take very good care of your putter like you said, or you live in a desert, LOL. Even with plating it can rust and no putter should be stored wet, so make sure your headcover and putter are dry after the round. We do plating and polymer coating on our carbon steel putters and I advise people all the time to NEVER store a putter wet.

Just an FYI to all the stainless guys, it is stainless, not stain proof and if stored wet even a stainless putter can and will rust.

Get the Byron with the soundslot, you wont regret it!

To those with both..

 

Carbon or SS?

Which from 40ft, which from 5ft?

Sound slot I'm heraring is a good thing...

Again, I have both SS and carbon. Both are good on the greens no matter the distance! I have quite a few putters, and it usally doesn't matter which one I choose on that particulat day. If it is wet, I use stainless.

Thanks for your help...

Finally decided to go with a BM007 with sound slot.

Just need to decide on the finish. It's either "Coldstar" or "Copper plating".

Anyone got any pictures of these finishes or could describe them.

Cheers...

A couple of nice pictures of a coldstar 007

Cheers Z-Man, do you have any showing the face? and any of the copper plating finish, also showing the face?

Here is Coldstar mist on my 007x Rincon with sound slot and twilight zone face milling.

I don`t have any 007`s handy but here is a few of 006`s with copper plate and pre patina

Great pictures Sam.. Triple polish S bend copper plate 007.. This was a cool putter

Great pictures Sam.. Triple polish S bend copper plate 007.. This was a cool putter

I am admittedly not a fan of that hosel type......but damn that finish is beautiful.

Moving in the direction of the copper plating... The first coldstar looks very grey compared to the 2nd one... and the first copper one looks much brighter than the 2nd one, which seems to have more of a satin finish... this is hard! I should just go to a public vote...

Mine is copper plated and it just looks and sounds great! It has the sound slot. Its definately a head turner

Thanks for the pics everyone. Decision made after seeing Eddiea54's copper beauty... very tasty!

Thanks again for everyone's help.

David

Copper Plating is tremendous. That would be where I would go next.

Order sent to Steve... (Z-Man), who I must say has been very responsive.

Ordered 007 model, copper plated finish with sound slot and sight line on the flange... can't wait.. I'll send the pics when it arrives.

Awesome!!! Congratulations.

Here is Coldstar mist on my 007x Rincon with sound slot and twilight zone face milling.

Damn! That is one beautiful putter!!!

Here is Coldstar mist on my 007x Rincon with sound slot and twilight zone face milling.

 

Damn! That is one beautiful putter!!!

Thanks. I really love this putter. Byron did an outstanding job (as usual).