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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MOMembers Posts: 2,832 ✭✭
    I hit the TS3 with T1100 EF white against my z785 and the Ping 400LST last friday on GCQuad. Ping beat z785 in ballspeed by 3mph and TS3 was another 3mph faster than the ping! Crazy thing was how good the mishits were with the TS3. I hit a couple that i thought would be off the map and were still in the fairway on GCquad. I bought the TS3 on the spot, installed the adapter on my Tensei Pro White 70tx at 44.5" and cotton filled the head back up to swingweight. (was afraid hotmelt would mess up the weight tube port).



    Played yesterday and the driver sounds amazing now and is stupid long. Just an all around monster. I really like the EF T1100 as well but ive had the PW for 24 months and 3 drivers now and just know what to expect.
    Titleist TS3 8.5* ............................Tensei Pro White 70TX proto 44.5" D5
    Titleist TS2 15.75* .......................Tensei Pro White 80TX proto 42.5" D4
    Mizuno MP18 Fli-Hi #2 17.5* Handcrafted HZRDUS 105 6.5 39.75" D2
    Titleist 712U 4 iron ....................C-taper S+ 125 D2
    Wilson FG Tour V6 5-P .............PX LZ 6.5 +3/8" D3.5 off 46* PW
    SM6 50.12F ...................................PX LZ 6.5 + 3/8"" D5
    Mizuno T7 55.09 .........................PX LZ 6.5 35.5" D6
    Mizuno T7 60.10 .........................Tour Issue Onyx S400 35.5" D6
    Odyssey Tour Only Jailbird Mini Versa BWB Plumbers Neck WHP insert
    Bridgestone Tour B XS


  • PreppySlapCutPreppySlapCut This is just babytown frolics... Members Posts: 6,376 ✭✭
    Accra Prototype. Calling it in advance...
    Ping G400 MAX 9* w/ Tour 65 (S)
    Ping G 14.5* & 19.5* w/ Tour 80 (X)
    Ping G30 22* w/ Accra Kuchar Proto 85 (X)
    Ping i210 5-PW w/ Aldila RIP 115 (S)
    Ping Glide 2.0 50*, 55*, 60* w/ Aldila RIP 115 (S)
    Scotty Cameron Toolbox
  • spookyspooky Members Posts: 2,550
    The 919 Tour irons are just about perfect.



    I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the CTL on the course. I was fit for the same shafts - great numbers and felt lovely. So I got S-Tapers... image/to_become_senile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':to_become_senile:' />



    Also interested in how the S wedges work out. I tried a T7 wedge that I was given a few weeks ago and loved it - great feel and shape. And now they have decided to stop making them... Unbelievable!
    Taylormade M1 440 - Tensei CK Pro Orange TX
    Adams VST Hybrid (19) - GD AD-DI X
    Tour Edge Exotics CB4 (4 wood) - GD AD-DI X
    Mizuno JPX 919 Tour (5-PW) KBS S-Taper S
    Mizuno JPX 919 Forged (4) KBS S-Taper S
    Taylormade Milled Grind (52 & 58, SB) - Nippon Modus 130 S
    Taylormade Spider Tour (red) / Scotty Cameron Button Back Newport
    Titleist Pro V1
    Feeling sad and neglected: Taylormade P750 (4-PW) / Srixon 765 (4-PW) - Nippon Modus 3 130 S
  • Titleist+2Titleist+2 Members Posts: 164 ✭✭
    was going through the topic and noticed you played AP2s at one point and was wondering what your thoughts advantages/disadvantages are on them vs a titleist cb/mb combo set up? Awesome thread/collection btw!



    Thanks!
    WITB pending
  • Rosco1216Rosco1216 Members Posts: 2,975 ✭✭
    The DF is where it’s at.
    Tour Issue M3 8.5*(7.4* @ 3.4* open) - Diamana DF 70tx
    FW - who knows
    P790 UDI 17* - PX 7.0
    Miura CB 1008(4-P) - PX 7.0
    Bridgestone TourB XW1 50/55//60* - X100
    Piretti Matera 2 Limited Release


    https://www.instagram.com/rc_nova
  • Judge440Judge440 Titleist will always have my heart. ClubWRX Posts: 2,070 ClubWRX
    Any thoughts on 919T vs 718CB...I believe you had partial CB's at one point? Size and performance? Thanks.
    Titleist TS2 9.5* - Fujikura Atmos TS Black 6X
    Titleist 917F2  15* - Fujikura Atmos TS Blue 7X
    Titleist 818H1 19* - Fujikura Atmos TS Blue 8X
    Titleist 718 AP2 - PX LZ 6.5
    Titleist SM7 Raw - 50.12F | 54.14F | 60-12D - TI S400
    SC Tour Rat


    WITB Link

    https://www.instagram.com/judge44o/
  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,704 ✭✭
    edited Oct 11, 2018 #7058
    Pure745 wrote:


    Jeez.. figured it out, I think.



    Anyways image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> New bag for now:



    Driver: pending fitting - TS3 most likely

    3WD: pending fitting - TS3 most likely

    Mizuno MP18 SSC Fli Hi 3 iron

    Mizuno 919 Tour - 4-9 iron - KBS C-Taper Lite X hard stepped

    Mizuno S18 - 46, 50 - KBS C-Taper Lite X

    Vokey 55S/60V - shaft pending

    Scotty 009



    I haven't played Mizuno's since a brief stint with the MP67 and before that was the MP14/29. Very encouraged based on what I have seen indoors during my fitting, they look and feel incredible. They are noticeably softer than the Titleists, I already knicked on just by putting a club in too hard.



    For the driver, I'll do a fitting at Cool Clubs, my 917 is so good that this new one needs to be tested outdoor, my driver is an important club for me so it needs a little more specific fitting.. should be doing that this week. Specifically want to test the new Diamana and Kuro Kage.



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    Oh yeah.. recent picture of my Scotty debacle when unloading everything I had boxed when we moved.. image/censored2.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':censored2:' />



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    Didn't you own a set of MP100 at some point (beautiful looking irons)? Or was that someone else?
    rymail00 2018 WITB http://www.golfwrx.c...witb-pic-heavy/

    TM M1 430 8.5* Tour Issue w/ Tensei CK Pro White 70s (with high gloss SLDR finish from Continental Golf)
    Titleist 917 F3 15* D+ 80s
    Titleist 915H 21* D+ 90s
    Titleist 915H 24* D+ 90s
    Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
    Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
    Odyssey Metal X Milled 330M (current gamer)

    Ping Scottsdale TR B60
    TP Mills Heritage 349g
    Byron Morgan 006 355g
    Byron Morgan Makers Proof #4/5 solid copper
    C&L CL1 368g
    Scotty Cameron Newport Studio Style
  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,485 ✭✭
    Judge440 wrote:


    Any thoughts on 919T vs 718CB...I believe you had partial CB's at one point? Size and performance? Thanks.




    First round wasn't too great, 2nd round was much better. I feel like these clubs want to go much straighter, less spin, but still hitting it fairly high (but I"m a high ball hitter regardless). Much much better today, still getting used to the slight differences between the two. I'll take some comparison pics of the CB/MB's and SM7's vs the S18. I actually really like the S18 in the 46 and 50. Not sure I'd get them in the 56/60, definitely not the 60, love the V grind.



    So far, I don't think you can go wrong with either. I can't say that the 919T is light years better than the 718 or visa versa.. after a few more rounds and some range time I can give you more detailed info. Today's round, very impressed with the 919T/CTL combo.


    rymail00 wrote:


    Didn't you own a set of MP100 at some point (beautiful looking irons)? Or was that someone else?




    You're right! Last set was the MP100s!
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Titleist TS3 8.5 - Fujikura TR7
    Titleist 917F2 15 - Fujikura Speeder 857 Evo2 Proto
    Mizuno 919T - KBS CTL
    Mizuno S18 46/50
    [/font]

    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Vokey 54V/60V
    Scotty Cameron 009 Tool Box


    Instagram: @pure745 https://www.instagram.com/pure745/[/font]
  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,280 ✭✭
    Pure745 wrote:

    Judge440 wrote:


    Any thoughts on 919T vs 718CB...I believe you had partial CB's at one point? Size and performance? Thanks.




    First round wasn't too great, 2nd round was much better. I feel like these clubs want to go much straighter, less spin, but still hitting it fairly high (but I"m a high ball hitter regardless). Much much better today, still getting used to the slight differences between the two. I'll take some comparison pics of the CB/MB's and SM7's vs the S18. I actually really like the S18 in the 46 and 50. Not sure I'd get them in the 56/60, definitely not the 60, love the V grind.



    So far, I don't think you can go wrong with either. I can't say that the 919T is light years better than the 718 or visa versa.. after a few more rounds and some range time I can give you more detailed info. Today's round, very impressed with the 919T/CTL combo.


    rymail00 wrote:


    Didn't you own a set of MP100 at some point (beautiful looking irons)? Or was that someone else?




    You're right! Last set was the MP100s!




    You know there won't be much of a performance difference. Remember you changed because of boredom image/golfer.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':golfer:' /> image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
    Callaway Flash SZ 9* / ROGUE 130msi Silver 70TX
    Nike VR Pro LTD 15* / Aldila RIP 80X
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey White Hot Versa #6 Tour issue
    Srixon Zstar XV


    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub

    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/

    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590

    INSTAGRAM- @Jminis13
  • Judge440Judge440 Titleist will always have my heart. ClubWRX Posts: 2,070 ClubWRX
    Pure745 wrote:

    Judge440 wrote:


    Any thoughts on 919T vs 718CB...I believe you had partial CB's at one point? Size and performance? Thanks.




    First round wasn't too great, 2nd round was much better. I feel like these clubs want to go much straighter, less spin, but still hitting it fairly high (but I"m a high ball hitter regardless). Much much better today, still getting used to the slight differences between the two. I'll take some comparison pics of the CB/MB's and SM7's vs the S18. I actually really like the S18 in the 46 and 50. Not sure I'd get them in the 56/60, definitely not the 60, love the V grind.



    So far, I don't think you can go wrong with either. I can't say that the 919T is light years better than the 718 or visa versa.. after a few more rounds and some range time I can give you more detailed info. Today's round, very impressed with the 919T/CTL combo.


    rymail00 wrote:


    Didn't you own a set of MP100 at some point (beautiful looking irons)? Or was that someone else?




    You're right! Last set was the MP100s!




    Thanks. I'm assuming the 919T's are slightly bigger than the 718CB's.
    Titleist TS2 9.5* - Fujikura Atmos TS Black 6X
    Titleist 917F2  15* - Fujikura Atmos TS Blue 7X
    Titleist 818H1 19* - Fujikura Atmos TS Blue 8X
    Titleist 718 AP2 - PX LZ 6.5
    Titleist SM7 Raw - 50.12F | 54.14F | 60-12D - TI S400
    SC Tour Rat


    WITB Link

    https://www.instagram.com/judge44o/
  • deep18deep18 Members Posts: 1,850 ✭✭
    Tai, curious your thoughts on forgiveness and distance compared to the CB/MB combo you had before, especially in the longer irons. I have the same combo (716s not 718s) and these new Mizzys have my attention.
  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,485 ✭✭
    deep18 wrote:


    Tai, curious your thoughts on forgiveness and distance compared to the CB/MB combo you had before, especially in the longer irons. I have the same combo (716s not 718s) and these new Mizzys have my attention.




    I'll take pics this weekend. Another round today.. 33 on front, 40 on the back with a double on 18 (par 5), which stung. I'd say these are half a club longer than my Titleist set, sometimes a full club. I'd attribute it to the heads and the shafts are definitely lower in spin. They still feel/load different than the LZ's, but today I hit some nice shots with them. Every time I get into trouble is when I try to finesse a shot and just dump the club.. that happened a few times and ruined an otherwise really solid round - probably my best in a long while. I hit 2 shots over the green, but were pure, so can't be mad at that, and not PXG over the green, but slightly. One cost me by taking a hard bounce into a hazard long, the other just long and I got up and down. Liking the Fli Hi as well, better than the TMB and longer for me.
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Titleist TS3 8.5 - Fujikura TR7
    Titleist 917F2 15 - Fujikura Speeder 857 Evo2 Proto
    Mizuno 919T - KBS CTL
    Mizuno S18 46/50
    [/font]

    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Vokey 54V/60V
    Scotty Cameron 009 Tool Box


    Instagram: @pure745 https://www.instagram.com/pure745/[/font]
  • deep18deep18 Members Posts: 1,850 ✭✭
    Pure745 wrote:

    deep18 wrote:


    Tai, curious your thoughts on forgiveness and distance compared to the CB/MB combo you had before, especially in the longer irons. I have the same combo (716s not 718s) and these new Mizzys have my attention.




    I'll take pics this weekend. Another round today.. 33 on front, 40 on the back with a double on 18 (par 5), which stung. I'd say these are half a club longer than my Titleist set, sometimes a full club. I'd attribute it to the heads and the shafts are definitely lower in spin. They still feel/load different than the LZ's, but today I hit some nice shots with them. Every time I get into trouble is when I try to finesse a shot and just dump the club.. that happened a few times and ruined an otherwise really solid round - probably my best in a long while. I hit 2 shots over the green, but were pure, so can't be mad at that, and not PXG over the green, but slightly. One cost me by taking a hard bounce into a hazard long, the other just long and I got up and down. Liking the Fli Hi as well, better than the TMB and longer for me.




    Hmm I’ll take another 5-10 yards. I assume they’re also a little straighter and gentler on slight misses too? I’m with you on the FliHi, never got along with the T-MB, the FliHi is just better all over.
  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,280 ✭✭
    Pure745 wrote:

    deep18 wrote:


    Tai, curious your thoughts on forgiveness and distance compared to the CB/MB combo you had before, especially in the longer irons. I have the same combo (716s not 718s) and these new Mizzys have my attention.




    I hit 2 shots over the green, but were pure, so can't be mad at that, and not PXG over the green, but slightly.




    image/cheesy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheesy:' />
    Callaway Flash SZ 9* / ROGUE 130msi Silver 70TX
    Nike VR Pro LTD 15* / Aldila RIP 80X
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey White Hot Versa #6 Tour issue
    Srixon Zstar XV


    GolfWRX WITB Podcast - Irons reveal 11/14/18 http://www.golfwrx.c...utm_content=sub

    GolfWrx WITB Podcast 2017 : http://www.golfwrx.com/482668/tgtg-golfwrx-forum-member-j13-talks-witb-and-club-testing/

    WITB- http://www.golfwrx.c.../page__st__1590

    INSTAGRAM- @Jminis13
  • Smitty120Smitty120 MDMembers Posts: 437 ✭✭
    Another WIN for the 919 Tours....! Goooooo Eddie....! image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

    M6 - ACCRA TZ6 M5

    M3 HL - Tensei Pro White 80TX

    P790 3 - ADDI 95X

    P760 4, P730 5-PW - X-100 Tour

    MG Raw 52,58 - S-400 Tour

    Toulon Garage Atlanta

    TP5X

  • WHC888WHC888 Members Posts: 2,712 ✭✭
    Pure745 wrote:

    Smitty120 wrote:


    Who cares about Golf.... let's talk about the P car and more importantly let's get that thing to the track and put some laps in! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    Lol! Yeah, debating on switching up the wheels on it now.. but that's a different forum topic image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />






    if you want to go with classic 2 piece P-car look may I suggest BBS LM-R

    if you want to go with performance, and light weight may I suggest BBS FI or FI-R

    and lastly, you can't go wrong with HREs..

    I have FI on my E92 M3 and had FI-R on my F10 M5, very satisfied with the purchase.
    Taylormade M5 9* w/ CK Pro Orange 60s
    Callaway Rogue SZ 13.5* w/ Proforce V2
    Taylormade P790 3 - 4 Irons KBS FLT
    Taylormade P750 5 - 6 Irons KBS C Taper Lite
    Taylormade P730 7 - 9 Irons KBS $ Taper

    NIKE OVEN Engage Wedges 46* Mike Taylor Specials

    ARTISAN GOLF 0318 mallet ws8C8Un.jpg
    ARTISAN GOLF custom grind 49* wedge / KBS $Taper
    ARTISAN GOLF custom grind 53* wedge / KBS $Taper
    ARTISAN GOLF custom grind 58* wedge / KBS $Taper

    Taylormade P7TW on deck







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  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,485 ✭✭
    Smitty120 wrote:


    Another WIN for the 919 Tours....! Goooooo Eddie....! image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />




    #NetChampionshipSZN!!!


    WHC888 wrote:

    Pure745 wrote:

    Smitty120 wrote:


    Who cares about Golf.... let's talk about the P car and more importantly let's get that thing to the track and put some laps in! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    Lol! Yeah, debating on switching up the wheels on it now.. but that's a different forum topic image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />






    if you want to go with classic 2 piece P-car look may I suggest BBS LM-R

    if you want to go with performance, and light weight may I suggest BBS FI or FI-R

    and lastly, you can't go wrong with HREs..

    I have FI on my E92 M3 and had FI-R on my F10 M5, very satisfied with the purchase.




    I went all out.. got E88's arriving today (3 piece/race), don't like HRE's. I have both CH-R's in 20" and 19" E88, will keep both and sell the set I don't like as much image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Porsche fitment/offsets don't work with LM and LM-R.. really wanted 20" LM.
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Titleist TS3 8.5 - Fujikura TR7
    Titleist 917F2 15 - Fujikura Speeder 857 Evo2 Proto
    Mizuno 919T - KBS CTL
    Mizuno S18 46/50
    [/font]

    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Vokey 54V/60V
    Scotty Cameron 009 Tool Box


    Instagram: @pure745 https://www.instagram.com/pure745/[/font]
  • spookyspooky Members Posts: 2,550
    WHC888 wrote:

    Pure745 wrote:

    Smitty120 wrote:


    Who cares about Golf.... let's talk about the P car and more importantly let's get that thing to the track and put some laps in! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    Lol! Yeah, debating on switching up the wheels on it now.. but that's a different forum topic image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />






    if you want to go with classic 2 piece P-car look may I suggest BBS LM-R

    if you want to go with performance, and light weight may I suggest BBS FI or FI-R

    and lastly, you can't go wrong with HREs..

    I have FI on my E92 M3 and had FI-R on my F10 M5, very satisfied with the purchase.


    Volks on my E92 M3. Are we still on topic?
    Taylormade M1 440 - Tensei CK Pro Orange TX
    Adams VST Hybrid (19) - GD AD-DI X
    Tour Edge Exotics CB4 (4 wood) - GD AD-DI X
    Mizuno JPX 919 Tour (5-PW) KBS S-Taper S
    Mizuno JPX 919 Forged (4) KBS S-Taper S
    Taylormade Milled Grind (52 & 58, SB) - Nippon Modus 130 S
    Taylormade Spider Tour (red) / Scotty Cameron Button Back Newport
    Titleist Pro V1
    Feeling sad and neglected: Taylormade P750 (4-PW) / Srixon 765 (4-PW) - Nippon Modus 3 130 S
  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,704 ✭✭
    Tai,



    How did you do to get those Vokeys (from awhile back) that blue color? Or was it a limited release?
    rymail00 2018 WITB http://www.golfwrx.c...witb-pic-heavy/

    TM M1 430 8.5* Tour Issue w/ Tensei CK Pro White 70s (with high gloss SLDR finish from Continental Golf)
    Titleist 917 F3 15* D+ 80s
    Titleist 915H 21* D+ 90s
    Titleist 915H 24* D+ 90s
    Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
    Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
    Odyssey Metal X Milled 330M (current gamer)

    Ping Scottsdale TR B60
    TP Mills Heritage 349g
    Byron Morgan 006 355g
    Byron Morgan Makers Proof #4/5 solid copper
    C&L CL1 368g
    Scotty Cameron Newport Studio Style
  • Smitty120Smitty120 MDMembers Posts: 437 ✭✭
    Tai,



    Did J forward the message? "I hate you" ........ image/pimp.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pimp:' />

    M6 - ACCRA TZ6 M5

    M3 HL - Tensei Pro White 80TX

    P790 3 - ADDI 95X

    P760 4, P730 5-PW - X-100 Tour

    MG Raw 52,58 - S-400 Tour

    Toulon Garage Atlanta

    TP5X

  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,485 ✭✭
    Outdoor driver fitting completed this AM.. first time outdoor in a while, definitely a learning experience. Picked up 20-30 over the 917..



    Digesting the results now image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Will post later.
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Titleist TS3 8.5 - Fujikura TR7
    Titleist 917F2 15 - Fujikura Speeder 857 Evo2 Proto
    Mizuno 919T - KBS CTL
    Mizuno S18 46/50
    [/font]

    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Vokey 54V/60V
    Scotty Cameron 009 Tool Box


    Instagram: @pure745 https://www.instagram.com/pure745/[/font]
  • mukstermukster Is this the year? North of the 49thMembers Posts: 3,477 ✭✭
    Pure745 wrote:


    Outdoor driver fitting completed this AM.. first time outdoor in a while, definitely a learning experience. Picked up 20-30 over the 917..



    Digesting the results now image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Will post later.




    Wow
    Callaway XR16 driver, 9 degrees, Diamana S+ shaft
    Callaway Epic Subzero 13.5, Mitsubishi Fubuki Z 65
    Mizuno ST180 5 wood, Tensei Blue shaft
    Nickent 3D 3 hybrid, generic shaft
    Srixon Z765 5-PW irons, KBS Tour V shafts
    Cleveland CBX 50* wedge
    Hogan Equalizer 54* wedge
    Mizuno S18 58* wedge
    Nike Method Core Drone 2.0 putter
  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,485 ✭✭
    edited Oct 18, 2018 #7074
    Okay.. lots of data to digest.



    I haven't done an in depth driver fitting since TPI for the D4, maybe 3 years ago? The "fittings" I've done of late have been half assed kinds of fittings to get a good idea and then "that's good enough" type of thing. I'm still kind of like that, but I've found such good results with the 917, I am not willing to give up "much" accuracy for distance. I played with a pro golfer in a $$ game a few weeks ago and he really pointed out how much my driver was spinning and how much more optimized I "should" be. I have my driver really good for my course where I can get away with really long carries and high ball flight, but that doesn't translate so well to other tracks where lower flight/spin is needed to get more out of my shots with wind etc.



    So.. after loving my irons and doing the "good enough" iron fitting.. the driver is so important that I getting fit outside was a must. I've joked about how good the 917 is when I know most people (on here especially) think it's a dog.. the reality is that I've hit some really long drives with it, I can hang or hit past most of the "long" guys at my club and up and coming tour guys.. so I know it's not short.. but as I was telling someone, what really gets me going is how incredibly BAD I can hit it and it still goes straight.



    I think we get too wrapped up in to what is good indoors on a monitor vs. what is the actual best driver in terms of playability. The 917 is exactly that.. it really sucks on Trackman and everything else, but I can't argue with real world playability and results. Stuff I've seen with my own eyes, that others have seen, and knowing where the ball goes with how good/bad I hit it.



    That all being said.. Trackman is not wrong and the results of an outdoor fitting are not wrong. BUT.. how does this all translate to the golf course, how much longer do I really want to be, what trouble is brought into play, how much accuracy am I sacrificing, what does lowering my spin do? Home course, away?



    I bring this all up because I'm torn between two drivers.. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    These numbers are not normalized and are with range balls.. once normalized they were better but we'll just use these for now.





    Let's start with my 917 9.5 with Atmos Black 7TX - I removed two bad shots that we would have removed later on in the fitting to keep things more consistent. You can still use my averages below - but I hit two low on the face that were spinning like crazy which one of them would have been taken out of the averages below. The thing about my 917 is all these shots were dead straight and would not have missed a fairway. I also wasn't as warm as I was for the last two.



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    M3 - Fuji Speeder TR 757x

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    TS3 - same shaft

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    Basically the M3 won - the TS3 was a close 2nd. I hit some absolute bombs, but didn't like the window as much. The TS3 felt like a better version of the 917, I could control it more, shot shapes looked much more familiar and the windows were more like my 917.



    BUT.. I can't argue how insane the M3 results were paired with the Speeder TR (which I have also never heard of or thought to try). I have a TS3 en route, I will probably go with that and then see how happy I am with it. Especially with the M5/6/7/8 whatever it is coming out, I would not want to get the M3 and then have to try the new one coming out.



    Shafts tested: Fuji Speeder TR, Pro 2.0, Diamana DF, Diamana BF, Accra (black/red), Tensei White.



    That's it for now.. let me know what you guys think image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    Edit: Looking at the #'s now, the "normalized" data with premium ball vs. these range balls is more accurate to actual distances.. but this is still accurate for what we saw today.
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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MOMembers Posts: 2,832 ✭✭
    Stupid question, but did you try the TR shaft in the 917 for comparison? Or the Atmos in the TS3?
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  • WarrickWarrick ClubWRX Posts: 10,247 ClubWRX
    ****, that is a considerable jump, good call on the outdoor fitting. I can't find that where I live, but folks just got a place in Palm Dessert, assuming I can get it done out there in February.



    I have been tempted to try the M3 440, looking for a demo.



    I would love to hit it that far....
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  • TheKrushhTheKrushh Members Posts: 1,014 ✭✭
    It seems like they should be able to get your smash factor higher with a better fit shaft. I would a think a guy with your swing could get to 1.51-1.52 pretty easily. Clearly, you like what you're seeing but it seems like some ball speed is missing for your swing speed. (For reference my swing speeds only hit 117-118 but I can usually get 178-179 off ball speed (1.52)).
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  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,485 ✭✭
    edited Oct 18, 2018 #7078


    Stupid question, but did you try the TR shaft in the 917 for comparison? Or the Atmos in the TS3?




    Yes - the numbers are with the TR in the 917. The TR shaft was tested against all of the others I listed and was the best in both heads.


    TheKrushh wrote:


    It seems like they should be able to get your smash factor higher with a better fit shaft. I would a think a guy with your swing could get to 1.51-1.52 pretty easily. Clearly, you like what you're seeing but it seems like some ball speed is missing for your swing speed. (For reference my swing speeds only hit 117-118 but I can usually get 178-179 off ball speed (1.52)).




    When you normalize these numbers it bumps my smash factor up to more "normal" numbers. 1.51-1.52 are all smoke and mirrors Trackman speak - I just care about spin, carry, and dispersion.. which is why I've gone away from any type of indoor driver fitting. I care about what I actually see and where the ball actually land.. not smash factor etc.. don't believe in that stuff anymore, or I should say, I just take it with a grain of salt.



    Edit: not sure if you saw the part where all of these numbers are raw with range balls.. premium balls/normalization would bring things up to what you're seeing. This was a good enough test for me since everything was the same.
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  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,797 ✭✭
    Tai, how did the Speeder TR feel? Read they feel the most "boardy" in the Fuji line.
  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,485 ✭✭
    4rheel wrote:


    Tai, how did the Speeder TR feel? Read they feel the most "boardy" in the Fuji line.




    Actually thought it was really solid feeling. I'd argue the Atmos is way more boardy than the TR. 100% getting the TR, very impressed by it. I was surprised how much I didn't get along with the Diamana or Tensei shafts.
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