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  • Skins Game 5Skins Game 5 Members  26WRX Points: 0Posts: 26
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    Golfingbanker wrote on 30 January 2010 - 07:34 PM:
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    307golf wrote on 30 January 2010 - 05:32 PM:
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    Yeah, the world needs more mass produced putters that look just like every other putter... Try to expand the mind just a bit and realize that these putters were intended to look 'rough' in that they are handmade, not mass produced. <br />
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    Some people like art, flaws and all, others just want more mass produced prints which have been sanitized of any creative thought process. If I were to order a handmade putter and it looked 'perfect' and like every other putter, I'd dump it quickly. For this type of product, the beauty is in the process...<br />
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    The beauty is also in how handmade putters like this feel. To each his own. <br />
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    Consider this though-McDonald's Quarter Pounders all look the same but does that mean they are the best tasting hamburger you can buy?<br />
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    I put a lot of thought into your Hamburger analogy, and the beauty being in the feel if these putters, that made me think about a joke I heard <br />
    about fat chicks and Mopeds, they both feel good but you don't want your friends to see you with them. Looking at these hand made putters<br />
    compared to Mills or even some of the small guys, Scratch's hand made's are not in the same league as the other makers in quality, or craftsmanship.<br />
    But that is just my opinion.<br />
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    TXGOLFJUNKIE wrote on 29 January 2010 - 10:43 AM:
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    'It' moved. gonna be hard to explain to the boss why I just can't get up to get that report off the printer just yet...<br />
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    Haha, the one in the red shirt and black skirt is VERY NICE man_in_love.gif If I go to the golf show, I plan on marrying her with the marriage sack (hopefully people get this reference)
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    Yonex EZONE Type 380 Driver, 9* with Grafalloy ProLaunch Red X-Stiff
    Adams Speedline F11 Fairway Woods, Ti 15* and Steel 18* with stock Aldila Voodoo Stiff
    Wilson FG Tour M3 Hybrid, 21* with stock Aldila RIP Phenom Stiff
    Wilson FG 51 Irons, 4-9 with True Temper Dynamic Gold S300
    Nickent ARC Blade, PW with True Temper Dynamic Gold S300
    Scratch 8620 Wedges, 53*/DD (bent to 54*) and 60*/DD with True Temper Dynamic Gold S300
    STX Sync Series 8 Putter, 34" with Red Face Insert
  • moose_1978moose_1978 Members  461WRX Points: 0Posts: 461
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    307golf wrote on 30 January 2010 - 06:32 PM:
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    Yeah, the world needs more mass produced putters that look just like every other putter... Try to expand the mind just a bit and realize that these putters were intended to look 'rough' in that they are handmade, not mass produced. <br />
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    Some people like art, flaws and all, others just want more mass produced prints which have been sanitized of any creative thought process. If I were to order a handmade putter and it looked 'perfect' and like every other putter, I'd dump it quickly. For this type of product, the beauty is in the process...<br />
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    Golfingbanker wrote on 30 January 2010 - 07:34 PM:
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    307golf wrote on 30 January 2010 - 05:32 PM:
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    Yeah, the world needs more mass produced putters that look just like every other putter... Try to expand the mind just a bit and realize that these putters were intended to look 'rough' in that they are handmade, not mass produced. <br />
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    Some people like art, flaws and all, others just want more mass produced prints which have been sanitized of any creative thought process. If I were to order a handmade putter and it looked 'perfect' and like every other putter, I'd dump it quickly. For this type of product, the beauty is in the process...<br />
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    The beauty is also in how handmade putters like this feel. To each his own. <br />
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    Consider this though-McDonald's Quarter Pounders all look the same but does that mean they are the best tasting hamburger you can buy?<br />
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    So are you saying you don't like perfection? Cause that does not make sense at all. I just can not even believe that someone would bring stuff like that to the biggest golf show in the country for all to see. Those are not suited for gamers or a collection in my opinion. They should stay with wedges and irons and give up on the putters if that is all they got.
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  • cardia10cardia10 Members  2621WRX Points: 251Posts: 2,621 Titanium Tees
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    Obviously the last poster prefers China castings at their finest. That's fine with the people who understand true handmade clubs. That leaves more for us. Keep buying those Camerons and 300 bucks a pop.
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  • moose_1978moose_1978 Members  461WRX Points: 0Posts: 461
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    No I do not like Camerons or any other stuff from China but what I am saying is just because it is handmade does not make it ok for it to look like a piece of junk. There are other companies that can do Handmades that actually look nice and finished. I realize that a handmade club will look different than one milled from and CNC machine but again these shown here have nothing going for them at all even the finish looks bad. There is no way you would walk on the green with one either or put one on the putter rack at home. To bring this to a close all I am saying is if you want to come into the putter world and be competitive you need to make something better than that. As for the there irons and wedges they look ok but putters are something they should probably give up on.
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  • GolfingbankerGolfingbanker Members  340WRX Points: 55Posts: 340 Greens
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    Skins Game 5 wrote on 01 February 2010 - 09:46 AM:
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    Golfingbanker wrote on 30 January 2010 - 07:34 PM:
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    307golf wrote on 30 January 2010 - 05:32 PM:
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    Yeah, the world needs more mass produced putters that look just like every other putter... Try to expand the mind just a bit and realize that these putters were intended to look 'rough' in that they are handmade, not mass produced. <br />
    <br />
    Some people like art, flaws and all, others just want more mass produced prints which have been sanitized of any creative thought process. If I were to order a handmade putter and it looked 'perfect' and like every other putter, I'd dump it quickly. For this type of product, the beauty is in the process...<br />
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    +1<br />
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    The beauty is also in how handmade putters like this feel. To each his own. <br />
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    Consider this though-McDonald's Quarter Pounders all look the same but does that mean they are the best tasting hamburger you can buy?<br />
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    I put a lot of thought into your Hamburger analogy, and the beauty being in the feel if these putters, that made me think about a joke I heard <br />
    about fat chicks and Mopeds, they both feel good but you don't want your friends to see you with them. Looking at these hand made putters<br />
    compared to Mills or even some of the small guys, Scratch's hand made's are not in the same league as the other makers in quality, or craftsmanship.<br />
    But that is just my opinion.<br />
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    Unless you have tried one of the Scratch handmade putters you can only have an opinion on how they look in the photograph, not on quality or feel. I am guessing that you have a handmade putter from Scratch? <br />
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    By the way, I am sorry you had to date fat chicks...cheesy.gif
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  • Skins Game 5Skins Game 5 Members  26WRX Points: 0Posts: 26
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    Golfingbanker wrote on 02 February 2010 - 09:22 AM:
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    Skins Game 5 wrote on 01 February 2010 - 09:46 AM:
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    Golfingbanker wrote on 30 January 2010 - 07:34 PM:
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    307golf wrote on 30 January 2010 - 05:32 PM:
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    Yeah, the world needs more mass produced putters that look just like every other putter... Try to expand the mind just a bit and realize that these putters were intended to look 'rough' in that they are handmade, not mass produced. <br />
    <br />
    Some people like art, flaws and all, others just want more mass produced prints which have been sanitized of any creative thought process. If I were to order a handmade putter and it looked 'perfect' and like every other putter, I'd dump it quickly. For this type of product, the beauty is in the process...<br />
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    +1<br />
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    The beauty is also in how handmade putters like this feel. To each his own. <br />
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    Consider this though-McDonald's Quarter Pounders all look the same but does that mean they are the best tasting hamburger you can buy?<br />
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    I put a lot of thought into your Hamburger analogy, and the beauty being in the feel if these putters, that made me think about a joke I heard <br />
    about fat chicks and Mopeds, they both feel good but you don't want your friends to see you with them. Looking at these hand made putters<br />
    compared to Mills or even some of the small guys, Scratch's hand made's are not in the same league as the other makers in quality, or craftsmanship.<br />
    But that is just my opinion.<br />
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    Unless you have tried one of the Scratch handmade putters you can only have an opinion on how they look in the photograph, not on quality or feel. I am guessing that you have a handmade putter from Scratch? <br />
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    By the way, I am sorry you had to date fat chicks...cheesy.gif<br />
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    I do not have a Scratch hand made putter and I never will as long as the look like the ones pictured, however I do have several handmade putters by other putter makers and all of them feel very good and look like art work<br />
    the ones made by Scratch are not even in the same class. I do believe that the putter needs to look good as well as have a great feel, so I will never get to feel these putters because as someone else pointed out they are hideous. BTW sorry you have to eat at McDonalds<br />
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    Just noticed your avatar and now realize you have a bag full of Scratch clubs, I really want to try the D.W. wedges, they are great looking and I do plan on buying some of them.<br />
    The point being they LOOK good to me so I think I will buy a couple and see how they feel. Can not say that about the putters!<br />
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  • cardia10cardia10 Members  2621WRX Points: 251Posts: 2,621 Titanium Tees
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    Well, opinions are like a**holes, everybody has one, some just stink more than others.
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    boys, boys, boys.......let's all get along
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    PING G410 17* & 19* - MITZ TENSEI BLUE X & EF BLACK X
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  • cardia10cardia10 Members  2621WRX Points: 251Posts: 2,621 Titanium Tees
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    No problem getting along, but constructive criticism is important. Not just saying, "that looks like garbage." If you want them to improve their product, tell them what you don't like. You have the owner here listening in, tell him what would make the putters better. Just spouting off because you play a different brand helps no one.
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  • oregongolforegongolf Lefty Boomers  8606WRX Points: 190Posts: 8,606 Titanium Tees
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    The wedges look great. On the other hand, the putters look pretty rough...
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    I thought the anser2 left handed looked good. I think the group pic of the 4 putters looked better than the other angles that were shot from behind. I would like to see how they look from address, which is an important factor in how a putter really looks.<br />
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    The rest of the stuff looked good too.
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    Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
    Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
    Odyssey Metal X Milled 330M (current gamer)
    Ping Scottsdale TR B60
    TP Mills Heritage 349g
    Byron Morgan 006 355g
    Byron Morgan Makers Proof #4/5 solid copper
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  • ThaddyThaddy Members  1191WRX Points: 1Posts: 1,191 Bunkers
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    Did Scratch happen to have any stand bags at the PGA show? I don't see any pictures with them...
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    Wow taking those putters black%20eye.gif to PGA show is like this.russian_roulette.gif Not your best decision.
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    Thaddy wrote on 02 February 2010 - 04:05 PM:
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    Did Scratch happen to have any stand bags at the PGA show? I don't see any pictures with them...<br />
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    Looks like the mackenzie walkers won out over a stand bag release.
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    <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/man_in_love.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':man_in_love:' /> Girl in red...
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  • tobybeartobybear Members, Media Staffer  1502WRX Points: 96Posts: 1,502 Platinum Tees
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    I think that the putters look great. Im more into the way they perform/"feel" then how they look. I know when i grind my own wedges im really more concerned about it working not if it will look pretty. <br />
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    The function is there and i think that is the idea behind these handmade prototypes. To show off what can be done. Im pretty sure some of the rare Adams tour prototypes that pop up on ebay that look really funky with weigh ports or unusual shapes work rather well and i think thats how you shold look at these putters too <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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    Keep up the good work
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  • mozgolfmozgolf Members  3954WRX Points: 2Posts: 3,954 Titanium Tees
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    I agree with the wedges and irons- gorgeous school of thought, but the putters... well a work in progress perhaps, and at first glance the hybrids dont induce any must have cravings. The sole looks great but that big silver/ grey strip on the topline looks clunky/ cheap
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    307golf wrote on 30 January 2010 - 06:32 PM:
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    ... Try to expand the mind just a bit and realize that these putters were intended to look 'rough' in that they are handmade, not mass produced. <br />
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    Guess everything I thought I knew... was wrong.
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    Jones/Ortiz 4 wood 17*
    Kasco hybrid 23*
    Adams Idea Black CB2 irons 26, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45*
    Callaway MD3 S grind 52, 56, C grind 60, PM grind 64*
    Tom Slighter Needle 450g, 3* loft, 74* lie
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    86 the putters and hybrids~
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    Vokeys
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    Various other putters currently in the closet,
    thinking about what they've done wrong,
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  • cardia10cardia10 Members  2621WRX Points: 251Posts: 2,621 Titanium Tees
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    If you put shiny black chrome on the scratch putter and do some deep face milling, it wouldn't look much different than the Byron. You can put perfume on a ****, but it is still a ****. I think Ari said it best here earlier. These are PROTOTYPES. Not production models. If you want a certain looking putter, call them. They have proved that customization is their specialty.
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    I want those blades!!!
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    9015D Speeder 6.2 TS / Romaro 460 HX Waccine / Baldo TA001 Basileus Z 60 / A-Grind 440 Veylix Arcane Proto etc. etc. Etc.
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    Epon Zen / Romaro CR-III /Lots of Camerons
    And other stuff that my wife would like to see gone.....
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    The putters are much better in person then the random pics posted. Ari's putter is out of control heavy, heavier then a heavy putter. He should name that thing after Thor's hammer "Mjölner".
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    cardia10 wrote on 04 February 2010 - 07:32 AM:
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    If you put shiny black chrome on the scratch putter and do some deep face milling, it wouldn't look much different than the Byron. You can put perfume on a ****, but it is still a ****. I think Ari said it best here earlier. These are PROTOTYPES. Not production models. If you want a certain looking putter, call them. They have proved that customization is their specialty.<br />
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    And who are they going to send to welding school so the next ones do not look like Turds, That is what the welds on these look like.<br />
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  • Lagolf31Lagolf31 Members  147WRX Points: 0Posts: 147
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    I think the general concensus is that there are two trains of thought here. On one track is the people that cannot understand why Scratch would bring a bunch of "handmade" prototypes to a large show when they are an unfinished product and on the other track is the people who understand that these are "unfinished" and can be milled, and sanded, and black oxide/polymer/bronzed etc...to the customers specs. I appreciate both but I can see the finished product in my mind (check out Ryan Moores flatstick for proof) and I see a piece of putting jewelry.<br />
    Maybe it wasn't a great idea to only have the unfinished product as opposed to some finished / some proto's to compare them to at the show but Ari seems to know what he is doing and is doing it well so far.<br />
    Just my $.03. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    I would say that if a customer wanted a weld cleaned up, it wouldn't be a problem. These are obviously unfinished. I'm not good at golf or making golf clubs and I can tell the difference between mass production and hand made. If I wanted a polished up putter with some crappy inse.rt, I would gladly buy an odyssey. I'd prefer my putter to be touched by human hands, not robotic welding
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  • 307golf307golf Powder River, Let'er Buck! Members  1408WRX Points: 55Posts: 1,408 Bunkers
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    And no doubt someone is bitching that the Byron is all scratched and not as clean as a 'real' putter should be... Different products for different tastes.
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    I like the putters. I actually like the "rough welded" look. If I had one in my bag, It would make me feel as though it was made just for me. Keep doin your thing. Stay true to your process and love. You'll always have haters, no matter what changes you make. If we all focused on the critics, we'd never get to enjoy the positives in our lives!
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  • dan360dan360 loisible Members  5605WRX Points: 597Posts: 5,605 Titanium Tees
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    Take a trip to someplace other than a golf event and see what pre-production prototypes and true prototype test objects actually look like....here is one for an example:<br />
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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 9° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70g
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70g
    Callaway Apex '19 3H HZRDUS Handcrafted HYB 85g
    PXG 0211 4-G Modus 105  ...or...  Miura Baby Blades 3-P Steelfiber 110cw
    Callaway PM Grind '19 54/60/64 KBS garbage
    PING Anser 2 Jim Wells 36"

    Outlaw Golf Association #21
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  • dan360dan360 loisible Members  5605WRX Points: 597Posts: 5,605 Titanium Tees
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    Here's another fine example....note the Gorilla Tape holding the mirror on the half million dollar prototype Ferrari...just makes you wanna go out and buy one, huh?<br />
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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 9° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70g
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70g
    Callaway Apex '19 3H HZRDUS Handcrafted HYB 85g
    PXG 0211 4-G Modus 105  ...or...  Miura Baby Blades 3-P Steelfiber 110cw
    Callaway PM Grind '19 54/60/64 KBS garbage
    PING Anser 2 Jim Wells 36"

    Outlaw Golf Association #21
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