NEW Mizuno MP Fairway wood

My rep is bringing them by next week. He said all the new woods are fantastic. He called the fairway wood a "rocker launcher". $249 price point. I will have more next week.

what is the stock shaft on this club? in my experience the mizzy lines of woods have consistently always fallen short of expectations due to the shaft offerings. The stock shafts never do the heads justice especially in the fairways, and even the custom options never have anything near 80g, which imo is a major turnoff for better players considering mizuno woods.

fubuki stock, i'm pretty sure

Made for MIzuno Fubuki

Mizuno simply won't be able to command that kind of money for this club or the MP-630 Fast Track. They keep trying to get Japanese level price tags but they just don't have the tour presence in the U.S. These clubs will gather dust until they get the price cut by at least half. The competition is simply too good at less money.

I have this Fway and all I can say is wow! The set up looks amazing sits behind the ball so nicely off the tee or off the deck. Square to open face and I agree with the rep its a rocket launcher feels great and quite forgiving on mishits. One thing that lets it down is the Mizzy Fubuki shaft its POO! Way too torquey and inconsistent for my swing so I have replaced it with a SYNERG 95 and the results are way better.

I am a big Miz fan (Mx 300's on way, previously 30, 33 & 60's along with FW woods).

Looks like a winner that no one will play. For whatever reason, possibly the shaft as mentioned, Miz woods just do not catch on.

Demoed this 3 wood today with a s flex. Very nice 3 wood. Gets the ball up in the air. Hit it off some tight lies due to the bermuda being dormant. Hit it long off the tee. Best 3 Wood I have hit to date.

Tried the new Mizuno MP driver and MP fairway wood. The fairway wood and driver sets up nicely at address and has a decent compact shape. The stock Fubuki does not feel that good though. Maybe Mizuno should offer an alternative stock shaft for them.

The MX-700 was a nice fairway so I can only imagine this club will be a good head.

I too think Mizuno continues to miss the mark with their stock shafts. If they could use a 'real' shaft, they could see better adoption from better players.

I hit it. It's got a fairly compact head compared to today's standards. Smaller than my Launcher 3W, for sure. It launches a beamer. Nice trajectory, seems to go long, got a good trampoline feel. Good shaft, felt like it played stiffer than it says - which is the same thing on the MP-630 Driver.

Following is a response I copied from the Mizuno European discussion board, from Miz R&D to a post asking about the "made for Miz" Fubuki:


Re: Fubuki shafts on new MP wood range

Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:42 pm

Posted by Grilled Cheese

Good Afternoon from the R&D crew.

We actually worked really hard with Mitsubishi on developing this shaft specifiacally for the MP-630 driver. We tested the original Fubuki structure as well as a number of slight variations to it in order to find the ideal candidate for this head.

With the original Fubuki structure, we actually had a bit more spin than we were looking for (becuase his is an MP head, we wanted as little spin as possible). What we ended up doing is going with a modified Fubuki structure where the tip section is reinforced a bit more and is a bit stiffer. The remainder of the shaft is the same EI (pretty much right in between a Blue and White Board).

The result is a shaft that waggles in your hand a bit soft (due to the weak butt section for easy loading), but actually plays very very tight and with very low spin.

I hope this helps!

-GC


Here's the full link:

http://www.mizunoforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=824

I agree with the pricing issue. People are not breaking down the doors to spend that on a driver or fwy. They will fail because of this. I love mizuno but they have to get realistic with their woods. I have their mp68's and they are at a fair pricepoint so I'm confused with the woods pricing.

I had a chance yesterday to hit all the new woods at a Mizzy demo day. The 630 sets up nice but the stock Fubuki was terrible for me. $500 for the fast track version is a joke and I would imagine in 3-6 months that will be down to $299. Hybrid and FW woods were nice also but again, the stock Fubuki did not work well for me.

I have had the 630 in my bag for the last two days as a demo. The head is outstanding. A great feel. I notice a tendency for everyone to bash the stock "made for" shafts" -no matter the brand. For me, the stock Fubucki is a great shaft. Doesn't give me a problem with an aggressive swing and it is point and shoot. I suppose everything will change after I buy it, but for now, this is one of the best drivers I have ever played.

I saw this club in Golfsmith yesterday and it really setup nice. Compact, no alignment and totally square to my eye. The only other fairway wood that looked anywhere near as nice was the R9.

[quote name='J13' date='07 March 2010 - 06:50 AM' timestamp='1267973403' post='2299065']
I agree with the pricing issue. People are not breaking down the doors to spend that on a driver or fwy. They will fail because of this. I love mizuno but they have to get realistic with their woods. I have their mp68's and they are at a fair pricepoint so I'm confused with the woods pricing.
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Really? SuperTri TP costs $499. The regular one costs $399. Superfast is $249 because it is not adjustable. The Mizzys are around the same pricing. I don't see where the failure is.

[quote name='Prof3ssor' date='07 March 2010 - 07:36 AM' timestamp='1267976206' post='2299148']
I had a chance yesterday to hit all the new woods at a Mizzy demo day. The 630 sets up nice but the stock Fubuki was terrible for me. $500 for the fast track version is a joke and I would imagine in 3-6 months that will be down to $299. Hybrid and FW woods were nice also but again, the stock Fubuki did not work well for me.
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I found it to be a bit stiff too. You have to be a decently accurate and strong swinger for it. I may stick to my SuperTri because of that. Much more forgiving.

I hit the fairway and drivers. Fairway wood is very nice. Long compared to most and very nice feel. May beat my CB2's out or the Diablo tour edges I was thinking on buying. I only hit the demos when rep was in Golf store. I didn't care that much for either driver.

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Following is a response I copied from the Mizuno European discussion board, from Miz R&D to a post asking about the "made for Miz" Fubuki:


Re: Fubuki shafts on new MP wood range

Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:42 pm

Posted by Grilled Cheese

Good Afternoon from the R&D crew.

We actually worked really hard with Mitsubishi on developing this shaft specifiacally for the MP-630 driver. We tested the original Fubuki structure as well as a number of slight variations to it in order to find the ideal candidate for this head.

With the original Fubuki structure, we actually had a bit more spin than we were looking for (becuase his is an MP head, we wanted as little spin as possible). What we ended up doing is going with a modified Fubuki structure where the tip section is reinforced a bit more and is a bit stiffer. The remainder of the shaft is the same EI (pretty much right in between a Blue and White Board).

The result is a shaft that waggles in your hand a bit soft (due to the weak butt section for easy loading), but actually plays very very tight and with very low spin.

I hope this helps!

-GC


Here's the full link:

http://www.mizunoforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=824
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Very interesting, but Not one of Mitsubishi Rayon's shafts worked well with the head?? Not the Blue Board? not the White Board? not the Fubuki Alpha, nor Kai'li nor 'ilima???

I don't buy it. They even claim the butt is weakened! In reality I am sure the "Made for" shaft is a great shaft and works for most players, but when targeting the "Better Player", perception [u]is[/u] reality and for a premium price, you can have a different paint job but not a different shaft. If it is not a Fubuki profile, then call it a Mizuno shaft by Mitsubishi Rayon, and take off the throwing stars/snowflakes.

I spent extensive time yesterday and today hitting the Mizzy MP 630 Fast Trac with the Fubuki. I also demoed everything else that is out and new including the FT Tour, FTi-Z Tour, Diablo Edge Tour, Cleveland DST Tour, Nike VR Tour, VR STR8 Fit, Mach Speed, Burner Superfast, R9 Super Tri and Ping I15(I did not demo the G15 because it is currrently my gamer).

For me the Mizzy was hands down the winner. Mid high boring trajectory with good roll out after hitting the ground. Dispersion was tight and feel was amazing. Cosmetically elegant looking driver with great sound. Plenty of forgiveness and the Fast Track system performs as advertised. I was very, very impressed. I also hit the CLK Hybrid and liked it also. $499 is a bit steep for the driver so I may wait until it drops in price. It is definitely worth a look.

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[quote name='J13' date='07 March 2010 - 06:50 AM' timestamp='1267973403' post='2299065']
I agree with the pricing issue. People are not breaking down the doors to spend that on a driver or fwy. They will fail because of this. I love mizuno but they have to get realistic with their woods. I have their mp68's and they are at a fair pricepoint so I'm confused with the woods pricing.
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Really? SuperTri TP costs $499. The regular one costs $399. Superfast is $249 because it is not adjustable. The Mizzys are around the same pricing. I don't see where the failure is.
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The SuperTri TP also comes with real shafts, some of them very expensive upgrades such as the Matrix HD6. If Mizuno wants to command that much for a club, they can't put watered down versions of shafts in there. The buyers just won't go for it. Also, TM has a massive tour presence and has the "street cred" to command a that price for a club. Whether or not it's justified is debatable, but Mizuno doesn't have that kind of pull in the U.S. Market.

Surely the Fubuki is just one of the shaft options?

They offer the various Axivcores and Prolaunches as well - but maybe these arent exotic enough?