New Rules in Effect and clarification of Rules *Update 5/16*

Running up of post counts is against the standard forum rules and can constitute a permanent banned account.

But you don't need 75 to send a PM to the seller to buy an item do you?

Probably a silly question, but I figure the 75 rule is just easier to apply to the whole sub forum rather than only to post new topic stuff.

FINALLY! I really like this idea. I do have one question...Are some people going to be "grandfathered" in so this rule won't apply to them? I know of a few guys who are great sellers but don't meet the post requirement so I was just curious.

I'm not sure what my post count is but what about those with a relatively high feedback rating but just don't post that much?

I am sure its to stop those who just sign up to sell things, but just curious because I don't think I have 75 posts...

Just saw I am only at 64

[quote name='Stinger82' date='15 May 2010 - 08:49 PM' timestamp='1273974546' post='2443926']
FINALLY! I really like this idea. I do have one question...Are some people going to be "grandfathered" in so this rule won't apply to them? I know of a few guys who are great sellers but don't meet the post requirement so I was just curious.


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+1

I have the same question. My feedback on here speaks for itself, although it is not high. Will I be "grandfathered" in?

Same here - I don't think I qualify by post count, as I spend most of my time reading, not posting - however my feedback is pretty solid.

Not trying to be disrespectful, but what does the "75 Posts" rule truly accomplish? Anyone know? I do know there will be a lot less good deals in the BST now because this limits the number of people who can post. Not a big fan of this.

Good idea in theory, but still nothing on PP gifting. I think that would do more to protect site members than anything else. Make sellers do the math and protect our BST

So I'm guessing that if you want to buy an item and you don't have 75 posts you must PM the seller?

I think this is a good move and should only improve the site.

I know people are still complaining about paypal gifting. Simple answer-- Don't do it, just say no! If they wanted it gifts walk away.

[quote name='Stinger82' date='15 May 2010 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1273974546' post='2443926']
FINALLY! [b]I really like this idea[/b]. I do have one question...Are some people going to be "grandfathered" in so this rule won't apply to them? I know of a few guys who are great sellers but don't meet the post requirement so I was just curious.
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I agree too! Not sure about the grandfather idea though. That would violate the new rule which would make no sense.

Appreciate the changes as I think it will help to deflect some of the bad experiences that have been occurring w/BST transactions. I hope they have the intended effect.

Also, FWIW, I do think we might have an odd situation with some current members under the 75 post requirement, but with decent feedback history (5 or more) who've demonstrated a good working knowledge of using the BST properly. I realize exceptions can be difficult to manage, but it'd be shame that this audience will be restricted under the new terms. Of course, the owners/founders and mods have a much better working knowledge of the issues and I think most of us will trust the decision that is made.

No grandfathering. Does not effect PMing members in the BST. This has been in public discussion for over a month. See the BST Ad help section for the ongoing thread about how it was decided.
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/365179-how-many-posts-should-a-member-have-to-be-able-to-post-a-bst-ad/


There are paid alternatives for those who don't meet the 75 post requirement.

We do not condone Paypal gifting but, it is an unenforceable requirement and should be handle between buyer and sellers.

Glad to see this, and I would opt for the PP gifting ban also.


The 75 rule prevents people from coming here and just selling stuff for free, without making a meaningful contribution to the site. In the case of someone wanting to just sell, they could then buy a site sponsorship.

75 posts and 10+ positive feedback. better?

If you're under 75 posts, the answer is pretty clear, start participating more. If everybody just reads, then we don't have as much diversity and depth to the forum. Realistically, the people who read more than post probably have some pretty intelligent things to say. Those of us who blab all the time, well, that may be another story...

Everybody wants to sit in the wagon and nobody wants to pull...

well done, thank you

The 75 minimum posts requirement is absolute and stands on its own.


GolfWRX owners, with [url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/365179-how-many-posts-should-a-member-have-to-be-able-to-post-a-bst-ad/"]ample input from the membership[/url], have determined it is in the best interest of the forum.

Thanks.

As of now, the only programmable enforceable option is post count.

If we instituted a paypal gifting ban, what are the enforceable actions? Ban/suspended an account because of conduct between two members where one has reported? Otherwise its just a wink wink deal.

I'm new to this site,,, i have looked for a long time at articles and reviews and finally joined,,, already bought putter off of here,,,, this hurts people from getting deals ,,,,thats all,,, like myself I read and look a pictures everyday on here,, i just don't like to gab alot.....

[quote name='coach_harris1' date='15 May 2010 - 08:58 PM' timestamp='1273975127' post='2443949']
Not trying to be disrespectful, but what does the "75 Posts" rule truly accomplish? Anyone know? I do know there will be a lot less good deals in the BST now because this limits the number of people who can post. Not a big fan of this.
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My 2 cents...it stops the noticeable increase of FS ads from people who have absolutely no history on GolfWRX. I'm going to speculate that the increase in bad transactions has a higher likelihood of occurring with those who don't use the site (low post history), have no vested interest and feel it's a quick way to anonymously rip someone off.

Will it stop all bad transactions? No. Like locks on doors, it keeps the honest people, honest. It won't stop a real thief, but it makes it more burdensome for the average Joe from ripping off others.

[quote name='LBattaglia93' date='15 May 2010 - 09:02 PM' timestamp='1273975330' post='2443968']
So I'm guessing that if you want to buy an item and you don't have 75 posts you must PM the seller?
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That is what I'm reading. Quite honestly, I wish more people would just PM the seller versus responding to the posting. As someone who's sold on this site (and as others have mentioned), responding to a FS post should really only be done when clarification is needed for the general public or an update is made to the posting. I've had a few too many instances where someone responds to my post saying they'll take it and never send payment.

The result is that other interested buyers thought they were too late and didn't even ask until I then provided another update to say that the person never responded to my PM's for payment. Talk about annoying!

[quote name='LBattaglia93' date='16 May 2010 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1273975330' post='2443968']
So I'm guessing that if you want to buy an item and you don't have 75 posts you must PM the seller?
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Is there ever a time which you want to buy something from a sellet on the BST and you wouldn't pm them?

[quote name='Pondy' date='15 May 2010 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1273975754' post='2443993']The 75 rule prevents people from coming here and just selling stuff for free, without making a meaningful contribution to the site.[/quote]

... and, hopefully, slow down those who join/place ad/take money/do not ship/get banned from re-registering and ripping off more members.

Not a fan of this at all but I guess I have to start posting so I can have my opinion heard. I don't see many positives other than reducing the work load of the mods which I do think is worth something.

[quote name='Gxgolfer' date='16 May 2010 - 12:14 PM' timestamp='1273976054' post='2444017']
As of now, the only programmable enforceable option is post count.

If we instituted a paypal gifting ban, what are the enforceable actions? Ban/suspended an account because of conduct between two members where one has reported? Otherwise its just a wink wink deal.
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Just an observation, but it sure seems like those sellers that often ask to be paid buy paypal gift also either haven't
been long term members or have a low post count or both. I think the post count li,it will help to limt the number of sellers that reuqest
a paypal gift payment.


In my opinion, this is a great move! I am sure that there wil lbe others. Well Done!

[quote name='Asleep' date='15 May 2010 - 10:21 PM' timestamp='1273976480' post='2444045']
[quote name='Pondy' date='15 May 2010 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1273975754' post='2443993']The 75 rule prevents people from coming here and just selling stuff for free, without making a meaningful contribution to the site.[/quote]

... and, hopefully, slow down those who join/place ad/take money/do not ship/get banned from re-registering and ripping off more members.
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Doesn't ISP help with that or do they just use a variety of computers to sign up and post? Or you can't ban ISPs...

If you ban an ISP, that would be bad. Banning is a horrible misconception of control because of the number of legitimate proxy ISP based companies.

[quote name='Asleep' date='15 May 2010 - 10:13 PM' timestamp='1273976007' post='2444014']
The 75 minimum posts requirement is absolute and stands on its own.


GolfWRX owners, with [url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/365179-how-many-posts-should-a-member-have-to-be-able-to-post-a-bst-ad/"]ample input from the membership[/url], have determined it is in the best interest of the forum.

Thanks.
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Well said T.

[quote name='LBattaglia93' date='15 May 2010 - 09:02 PM' timestamp='1273975330' post='2443968']
So I'm guessing that if you want to buy an item and you don't have 75 posts you must PM the seller?
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I am confused by this. I never respond to people who post in my ad that they will take the item. They MUST send me a PM so I can give them my PayPal address.

So does this rule mean that a person with less than 75 posts can't respond to an ad or can't buy anything by sending a PM to the seller?