Ping Eye 2 iron head weights

I'm in the process of reshafting a set of Eye2 irons. I just finished the 9 iron - not glued yet and I'll add some tungsten powder. I have 5-SW. I'm using 950GH reg. soft stepped. Grips are Winn Excel midsize, weight 43g.

5 - 249g

6 - 253g

7 - 259g

8 - 267g

9- 275g - my weight 275g, shaft 92g, 10g lead tip weight. Swing weight C9 without tungsten powder.

PW - 285g - my weight 282g.

SW - 292g

LW - 291g

I'm pretty satisfied with the 9 iron. Tungsten powder should bring it up to D0 which is fine. Agrees with the original C9 swing weight. The 43g grips help - they're midsize and not tapered so plenty of grip at the bottom. I use them on all my irons, wedges and woods. They're also quite soft and kind on the hands for a senior. I'm sure guys are still using and maybe reshafting Eye 2 irons, so I hope this helps.

> @pmcuk said:

> I'm in the process of reshafting a set of Eye2 irons. I just finished the 9 iron - not glued yet and I'll add some tungsten powder. I have 5-SW. I'm using 950GH reg. soft stepped. Grips are Winn Excel midsize, weight 43g.

>

> 5 - 249g

> 6 - 253g

> 7 - 259g

> 8 - 267g

> 9- 275g - my weight 275g, shaft 92g, 10g lead tip weight. Swing weight C9 without tungsten powder.

> PW - 285g - my weight 282g.

> SW - 292g

> LW - 291g

>

> I'm pretty satisfied with the 9 iron. Tungsten powder should bring it up to D0 which is fine. Agrees with the original C9 swing weight. The 43g grips help - they're midsize and not tapered so plenty of grip at the bottom. I use them on all my irons, wedges and woods. They're also quite soft and kind on the hands for a senior. I'm sure guys are still using and maybe reshafting Eye 2 irons, so I hope this helps.

Thanks for your comments.

I built the set using tip weights to get the 7 gram head weight gaps.

Retired the Eye2 set but may dig them out for Florida this winter.

> @"P.E." said:

> > @pmcuk said:

> > I'm in the process of reshafting a set of Eye2 irons. I just finished the 9 iron - not glued yet and I'll add some tungsten powder. I have 5-SW. I'm using 950GH reg. soft stepped. Grips are Winn Excel midsize, weight 43g.

> >

> > 5 - 249g

> > 6 - 253g

> > 7 - 259g

> > 8 - 267g

> > 9- 275g - my weight 275g, shaft 92g, 10g lead tip weight. Swing weight C9 without tungsten powder.

> > PW - 285g - my weight 282g.

> > SW - 292g

> > LW - 291g

> >

> > I'm pretty satisfied with the 9 iron. Tungsten powder should bring it up to D0 which is fine. Agrees with the original C9 swing weight. The 43g grips help - they're midsize and not tapered so plenty of grip at the bottom. I use them on all my irons, wedges and woods. They're also quite soft and kind on the hands for a senior. I'm sure guys are still using and maybe reshafting Eye 2 irons, so I hope this helps.

>

> Thanks for your comments.

>

> I built the set using tip weights to get the 7 gram head weight gaps.

>

> Retired the Eye2 set but may dig them out for Florida this winter.

Good of you to reply to your 8 year old thread topic here :smile:

My understand is that for the 70's, 80's and 90's, when Ping was casting its iron head models in Arizona, the process resulted in a range of head weights, so workers would weigh the finished heads and then separate them according to weight class. From that point, when assembling a set to a customer's specifications, Ping workers would choose the appropriate head weight from the company's inventory of finished heads. For example, a graphite shafted iron set might be an inch longer than Ping's standard length, so for that set Ping workers would likely use the lighter weight heads available. For a shorter then standard length set Ping would likely use the heavier heads within their inventory. I remember a Ping employee telling me the tolerance weight range for a given cast head could be as much as 7 or 8 grams (up to 4 swing weight points).

Back in those days Ping's standard length for irons was .5" shorter than most other companies, so the reason Ping stock sets typically had a C9 swing weight was due to shaft length more so than head weight.

My guess as to why your 5 and 6 iron head weights were so close to each other is that Ping used the head inventory the company had available at that that particular time.

The Eye 2's were built off a 37.75" 5 iron as measured w/o the grip (about 38" w/grip). Ping maintained that same length until just a few years ago when they extended 1/4" to keep pace with the rest of the industry.

Regarding variations in iron head weights, that's indicative of the variation in the castings. I rebuilt a set for a member here and two of the iron heads were virtually the same weight. I had to add some pretty healthy tip weights to some of the clubs get the swingweights where they needed to be.

> @Fairway14 said:

> > @"P.E." said:

> > > @pmcuk said:

> > > I'm in the process of reshafting a set of Eye2 irons. I just finished the 9 iron - not glued yet and I'll add some tungsten powder. I have 5-SW. I'm using 950GH reg. soft stepped. Grips are Winn Excel midsize, weight 43g.

> > >

> > > 5 - 249g

> > > 6 - 253g

> > > 7 - 259g

> > > 8 - 267g

> > > 9- 275g - my weight 275g, shaft 92g, 10g lead tip weight. Swing weight C9 without tungsten powder.

> > > PW - 285g - my weight 282g.

> > > SW - 292g

> > > LW - 291g

> > >

> > > I'm pretty satisfied with the 9 iron. Tungsten powder should bring it up to D0 which is fine. Agrees with the original C9 swing weight. The 43g grips help - they're midsize and not tapered so plenty of grip at the bottom. I use them on all my irons, wedges and woods. They're also quite soft and kind on the hands for a senior. I'm sure guys are still using and maybe reshafting Eye 2 irons, so I hope this helps.

> >

> > Thanks for your comments.

> >

> > I built the set using tip weights to get the 7 gram head weight gaps.

> >

> > Retired the Eye2 set but may dig them out for Florida this winter.

>

> Good of you to reply to your 8 year old thread topic here :smile:

> My understand is that for the 70's, 80's and 90's, when Ping was casting its iron head models in Arizona, the process resulted in a range of head weights, so workers would weigh the finished heads and then separate them according to weight class. From that point, when assembling a set to a customer's specifications, Ping workers would choose the appropriate head weight from the company's inventory of finished heads. For example, a graphite shafted iron set might be an inch longer than Ping's standard length, so for that set Ping workers would likely use the lighter weight heads available. For a shorter then standard length set Ping would likely use the heavier heads within their inventory. I remember a Ping employee telling me the tolerance weight range for a given cast head could be as much as 7 or 8 grams (up to 4 swing weight points).

> Back in those days Ping's standard length for irons was .5" shorter than most other companies, so the reason Ping stock sets typically had a C9 swing weight was due to shaft length more so than head weight.

> My guess as to why your 5 and 6 iron head weights were so close to each other is that Ping used the head inventory the company had available at that that particular time.

I think you are absolutely correct.

> @Nessism said:

> The Eye 2's were built off a 37.75" 5 iron as measured w/o the grip (about 38" w/grip). Ping maintained that same length until just a few years ago when they extended 1/4" to keep pace with the rest of the industry.

>

> Regarding variations in iron head weights, that's indicative of the variation in the castings. I rebuilt a set for a member here and two of the iron heads were virtually the same weight. I had to add some pretty healthy tip weights to some of the clubs get the swingweights where they needed to be.

Over the years I have rebuilt several sets of Eye2 and Eye2+ irons and some were really consistent in the weight gaps.

I think you are correct that the variation in castings is the cause of the head weight inconsistencies.

Thanks

FWIW, Ping deliberately built their clubs with lighter swingweights during this time. Ping used to march to the beat of its own drummer and believed that most golfers would benefit from lighter swingweights along with ligher/stiffer shafts. I miss the quirky Ping of old.

I remember my first set of Eye2's with ZZ lites (not pluses). My first time hitting them was on course and I was about a club and a half short with every iron despite similar lofts from my previous set (78-80 Staff Tour Blades, DGS300). I can remember not really feeling the head or the shaft flex. I would have never guessed that the lighter swingweight and shafts would have such an effect on how I swung the club. Within a couple of range sessions and rounds I was back to my normal distances.