Who plays a 64 degree wedge?

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and how useful is it?
Thinking of adding it to my bag, would like to hear other's experiences.



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  • 1tondriver1tondriver Members Posts: 844
    Would be a waste of space in my bag. I can do everything with my 60* that I could with a 64*. Jmho
  • turtlekcturtlekc 1995 MN PGA WisconsinClubWRX Posts: 12,779 ClubWRX
    Along the same lines, I went to a 62° wedge last year. Miracle shot saver a couple of times, but it cost me more shots than it helped. Hard to be as aggressive as needed. Just my experience...



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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members Posts: 3,581 ✭✭
    absolutely love my 64* wedge. to me its a must have.
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  • RJDRJD Posts: 523
    If I'm playing a really short course, I'll drop a fairway wood and add a 64* wedge for help around the greens - maybe 2 rounds out of 10. That's with a 54 and 58 in the bag - I wouldn't bring it along when I'm playing a 56 and a 60.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,592 ✭✭
    the vokey 64.07 is great for bunkers when you need fast elevation and are short sided. Couldn't play without mine
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  • Ugo DeRosaUgo DeRosa Ugo Derosa Members Posts: 1,055
    I go PW, 50, 54, 60, 64. Love my 64 and use it all the time. I have always been biased toward loading up on wedges- less "in between" shots is better imho.
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  • gruzgruz Members Posts: 204
    My old 52/56/60 set up had my head spinning enough as was as to what shot I wanted to hit. Going 53/58 to simplify things has helped me tremendously. Have yet to have a shot with the 58 where I was wishing I had a 60 or higher (never mind the difficulty of hitting one!)
  • magnus7319magnus7319 A hungry dog hunts best - Lee Trevino Members Posts: 2,166 ✭✭
    I may be in the minority, or simply just being old school, but since I eliminated the 64 (and the 60) from my bag, my scores have gone down, not up. Perhaps the combination of extra short game practice and learning to hit more shots with a 56 has contributed more the the drop in scores, but since I went from a 54/58/64 setup to just a 56 my handicap dropped aprox 3 strokes, and I am back to shooting under par, which I haven't done consistently in 5 years. Would my scores go down even further by adding wedges back in, and maintaining a bigger short game practice regimen? Maybe. But I know that by relying solely on the 56 for 90% of my short game shots, I have learned better distance and trajectory control; or at least better than when I had 3 wedges to choose from to hit any particular shot - the combination of swing thoughts remembering how hard to swing, pivot, follow-through etc. for each of the shots I wanted to hit with that particlar combination of club/loft/bounce for 1 club is easier than for 3, in my head anyway. In particular, the 64 was used very sparingly, maybe once or twice a round if short-sided, or maybe not at all for 2 or 3 rounds if I hit a ton of greens in regulation. Then again, your mileage will vary, and you may use it more often than say adding an additional long iron, wood, or hybrid.
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  • The DuckThe Duck Members Posts: 837
    Played 4 months with a 64 and at the end had too many times I needed the 60 rather than the 64.

    Great for very tight side shots but once per round was not enough to carry it.



    I am very very good with the 60 lob so the need was distance control rather than a God touched save.



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  • bulldurhambulldurham Members Posts: 351
    magnus7319 wrote:


    I may be in the minority, or simply just being old school, but since I eliminated the 64 (and the 60) from my bag, my scores have gone down, not up. Perhaps the combination of extra short game practice and learning to hit more shots with a 56 has contributed more the the drop in scores, but since I went from a 54/58/64 setup to just a 56 my handicap dropped aprox 3 strokes, and I am back to shooting under par, which I haven't done consistently in 5 years. Would my scores go down even further by adding wedges back in, and maintaining a bigger short game practice regimen? Maybe. But I know that by relying solely on the 56 for 90% of my short game shots, I have learned better distance and trajectory control; or at least better than when I had 3 wedges to choose from to hit any particular shot - the combination of swing thoughts remembering how hard to swing, pivot, follow-through etc. for each of the shots I wanted to hit with that particlar combination of club/loft/bounce for 1 club is easier than for 3, in my head anyway. In particular, the 64 was used very sparingly, maybe once or twice a round if short-sided, or maybe not at all for 2 or 3 rounds if I hit a ton of greens in regulation. Then again, your mileage will vary, and you may use it more often than say adding an additional long iron, wood, or hybrid.




    +1



    I played with a 52/56/60 combo for the longest time, and recently just decided to open the face on the 56 for short pitch shots compared to hitting a fuller 60*. And oh how my short game has improved! The 56 has always been my bread and butter, and I have found making myself a more versatile player with it in my hands has helped my short game tremendously. Vokey 60* should be up on BST soon! image/good.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':good:' />
  • jcaldwelljcaldwell Members Posts: 21
    only time i would bag it is on a par 3 course not worth throwing another club out of the bag
  • RookieBlue7RookieBlue7 Members Posts: 13,157 ✭✭
    edited Nov 17, 2011 #13
    I do and it's a big help, especially from greenside rough and when shortsided. In the rough keep a square face and swing down hard into the ball, comes out and stops fairly quick. It's saved me a bunch of shots.



    I carry a PW, GW, 56, 60, 64.
  • cb24cb24 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭
    I play a 64 and its my money club. I get about 100 yds out of it and can great workability, I honestly wouldnt want to play without it
  • Laws of WooLaws of Woo Members Posts: 1,130
    edited Nov 17, 2011 #15
    I have one and will occasionally put it in the bag if I'm playing short courses, but in reality its next to useless for me. There is no shot that I can make with the 64* that I can't with my 60*. Even when I have the 64* in the bag, I really only use it for tight flop shots, the 60* is my go to around the green for 90% of the shots.
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  • Robbky40Robbky40 Banned Posts: 327


    I do and it's a big help, especially from greenside rough and when shortsided. In the rough keep a square face and swing down hard into the ball, comes out and stops fairly quick. It's saved me a bunch of shots.



    I carry a PW, GW, 56, 60, 64.


    Exact setup as mine. I love the 64 out of the bunker. I do not like the look of an open face on o higher lofted wedge.
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,150 ✭✭
    anytime these threads come up (or the "do you use a 60" threads too) people always say they can do the same stuff with a lesser lofted club that they could do with a 60 or 64. But really, you can't. Sure you can open up the face of a 60 and make it play like 64, but you can open up a 64 and make it play like 68. You can't do that with a 60.



    IMO you really need to be confident with your other 13 clubs to play one. Sometimes having one is incredibly useful, if you play on crazy fast greens or have hard sand deep bunkers surrounding a lot of greens. I've hit shots with a 64 i absolutely would have had no chance to hit with anything else. But these come up maybe once every 3-4 rounds. It's just not worth it unless you short side yourself a lot, or play on heavily bunkered courses with tiny quick greens etc...



    currently i don't use one....and i actually like the 64 wedge a lot. Just don't really need it enough
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,592 ✭✭
    My set up is 45 PW, 51 GW, 57 SW, 64 LW.



    I mention this as I discovered a few things in my game



    1. I chip mostly with my 57 (and I am a lot better with it than a 60 as a go to club for around the green)

    2. the 64 for me is money for flops from the rough and almost ALL bunker shots. The faster you swing the more spin you get and my course has severely deep traps

    3. I use a 64 a lot more than I would an extra long iron or hybrid

    4. I stopped using the 64 for full shots from 80 yards. I've learned to love half and 3/4 shots with the 57.

    5. I only use it inside 40 yards for pitches and try to limit it to forced carry shots

    6. My 51 and 57 tvd's are CC .. so I like have a 64* vokey with aggressive grooves

    7. I hit a lot of wedges into par 4's and short greenside shots around par 5's where I almost always go for it in two
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  • artist08artist08 Members Posts: 718 ✭✭
    A true club ho would just buy it and try it! image/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
  • CheckJVCheckJV Male Model Posts: 2,091 ✭✭
    CARDY wrote:


    My set up is 45 PW, 51 GW, 57 SW, 64 LW.



    I mention this as I discovered a few things in my game



    1. I chip mostly with my 57 (and I am a lot better with it than a 60 as a go to club for around the green)

    2. the 64 for me is money for flops from the rough and almost ALL bunker shots. The faster you swing the more spin you get and my course has severely deep traps

    3. I use a 64 a lot more than I would an extra long iron or hybrid

    4. I stopped using the 64 for full shots from 80 yards. I've learned to love half and 3/4 shots with the 57.

    5. I only use it inside 40 yards for pitches and try to limit it to forced carry shots

    6. My 51 and 57 tvd's are CC .. so I like have a 64* vokey with aggressive grooves

    7. I hit a lot of wedges into par 4's and short greenside shots around par 5's where I almost always go for it in two




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  • Saluki91Saluki91 Members Posts: 597 ClubWRX
    The two courses I play the most make a 64* extremely useful for me.



    My home course has small, fast, sloped greens. Short-sided = dead in many circumstances. The 64* makes recovering from that situation much easier. It is also a great bunker club for short to medium range shots.



    My dad's course has very firm, elevated greens that also run on the quick side. One has to be able to stop the ball quickly in order to score there. The 64* helps me do that.



    That being said, learning to use a 64* effectively will require practice. A lot of loft in a wedge is like very little loft on a driver... both quickly reveal flaws in one's technique. I practice with mine a lot, which has helped the rest of my short game as well. Naturally, the proper grind is essential.



    I dropped my 18* 2H for the 64* wedge, and I am quite happy with the decision.
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  • syenkocsyenkoc Posts: 173 ✭✭
    edited Nov 18, 2011 #22
    I have a 64* Cally X-Forged wedge, and I love it. I just put it in the bag this year.



    I used to carry PW (47), GW (52), and SW (57). My SW has an ungodly amount of effective bounce - on the order of 17* - and I often struggled with it from tight lies/hardpan/etc., as you can imagine. The Cally 64 came with 9* of bounce from the factory, but I my local club maker take about 6 of that off and add a touch of a C-type-grind. It's now my official get-out-jail free card. It's great for little widow-maker type shots from around the greens.



    Perfect example - on #10 last week (Bethpage Black - a devil of a hole) I flew the green on my second shot, and ended up short-sided/no green to work with, in a tightly-mowed catch area, below the pin, and the green running DEAD away from me. Last year, I probably would've tried to punch a 3-iron into the hill or something. (Putting would've been very difficult; a chip would've been impossible to stop.) But this year? 64* wedge to the rescue!!! I hit a nice, high arcing shot to about 6 feet. (I missed the par putt, but that's not the point.)



    I've found that, with the grind that I have on it - and how short the club is - it's very difficult to take anything more than 1/2 swing. It's also not all that useful from heavy rough (but my SW is). It's a bit of a one-trick pony, but I sacrificed my 3-iron which for me was basically a zero-trick pony (unless snap-hooks count the same as ponies).



    Basically, my advice would be to see which club you'd take out to the put 64* in. For me, giving up the 3-iron wasn't a big deal. I carry a 5-wood, so I can just easy up on that bit to cover the lost 3-iron distance (and the stupid 5-wood is easier to hit anyway, so I was already doing that most of the time).



    The other thing to consider is the grind - you'll want to get a grind that complement's your other wedges. With a mid-bounce GW, high-bounce SW, and a very low bounce 64, I can pick the club that will react best with the turf/lie when making little shots around the green.
  • mdb0103mdb0103 Jacket CountryMembers Posts: 2,969 ✭✭
    MtlJeff wrote:


    anytime these threads come up (or the "do you use a 60" threads too) people always say they can do the same stuff with a lesser lofted club that they could do with a 60 or 64. But really, you can't. Sure you can open up the face of a 60 and make it play like 64, but you can open up a 64 and make it play like 68. You can't do that with a 60.



    IMO you really need to be confident with your other 13 clubs to play one. Sometimes having one is incredibly useful, if you play on crazy fast greens or have hard sand deep bunkers surrounding a lot of greens. I've hit shots with a 64 i absolutely would have had no chance to hit with anything else. But these come up maybe once every 3-4 rounds. It's just not worth it unless you short side yourself a lot, or play on heavily bunkered courses with tiny quick greens etc...



    currently i don't use one....and i actually like the 64 wedge a lot. Just don't really need it enough






    Very well said. I agree with this 100%. I carried a 64 all of last year and it was extremely useful. The course I play has very hard and fast greens and bunkers are more like gravel pits than sand traps. It fit my game really well.
  • SwingManSwingMan SwingMan Members Posts: 6,800
    It can be useful in certain short game situations. I wouldn't try to do too much with it or you'll **** yourself over -- just line it up square to your target and let the club do everything else.
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  • norge5norge5 Members Posts: 1,492
    My buddy has one and insists on hitting it more than he should. Hardly ever gets the desired result and, more times than not, hits a lousy shot with it. I have honestly never felt that I have had a shot that a 58 or 60 degree wedge isn't sufficient for. Old school golfers rarely carried anything more than 56.
  • cxxcxx Members Posts: 3,052 ✭✭
    I used to carry one when I primarily played a course with very thin/low maintenance bunkers (no rakes on the course) and very firm and fast greens. It had very little bounce and would slide right under the ball. Took quite a while to get used to it but it was pretty effective. Don't need it now though.
  • blade_manblade_man Members Posts: 2,586
    Some like some don't, some play them well some don't, you just need to spend the $100 or so get one and see what it does for you, no one elses opinion matters. What can you do with the club. Personally I like mine, like my AMEX I don't leave home without it (if I'm playing golf)!
  • barkydog1barkydog1 Barkydog1 Posts: 355
    I use it whenever I need to hit a shot backwards or over a cameraman.



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    Got a chance to play with Phil a few months back and he was doing the same thing at Bridges. High lofted club from everywhere 70 yards and in. This will never leave my bag. Extremely useful and it feels like there isn't a bad place you can be around the greens.
  • JsjonesJsjones Members Posts: 948
    Bring back up an old thread but for us lefties, found a good deal on eBay for a Mack daddy 2 for 46 bucks and there are a few more if anyone wants a link I can post it. Anyway, how long did the 64 last in you guys bags? Still there?
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  • setter02setter02 Domesticated Domicile Attendant. aka. House Husband Banned Posts: 2,617
    I just picked up one to try out again, haven't had anything higher than 58* in about 6 years. Course I joined this year isn't that long in 6500ish yards, so can likely drop my 5/6 iron for a wedge as I doubt I will be using either iron very often. 4i I use off the tee, so will stick around.
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