Who plays a 64 degree wedge?

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  • jl3424jl3424  109WRX Points: 39Members Posts: 109 Fairways
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    i have a 64 PM grind that is a lot of fun to mess around with on the practice green, but it's never made it into my bag for a round
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  • HarrisonBBHarrisonBB  14WRX Points: 0Handicap: 18Members Posts: 14
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    Love my 64* PM Wedge. It's great from 50 yards in. Lots of control.
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  • NorbooNorboo  2338WRX Points: 156Handicap: 12Members Posts: 2,338 Platinum Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:


    anytime these threads come up (or the "do you use a 60" threads too) people always say they can do the same stuff with a lesser lofted club that they could do with a 60 or 64. But really, you can't. Sure you can open up the face of a 60 and make it play like 64, but you can open up a 64 and make it play like 68. You can't do that with a 60.



    IMO you really need to be confident with your other 13 clubs to play one. Sometimes having one is incredibly useful, if you play on crazy fast greens or have hard sand deep bunkers surrounding a lot of greens. I've hit shots with a 64 i absolutely would have had no chance to hit with anything else. But these come up maybe once every 3-4 rounds. It's just not worth it unless you short side yourself a lot, or play on heavily bunkered courses with tiny quick greens etc...



    currently i don't use one....and i actually like the 64 wedge a lot. Just don't really need it enough




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  • NorbooNorboo  2338WRX Points: 156Handicap: 12Members Posts: 2,338 Platinum Tees
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    MtlJeff wrote:


    anytime these threads come up (or the "do you use a 60" threads too) people always say they can do the same stuff with a lesser lofted club that they could do with a 60 or 64. But really, you can't. Sure you can open up the face of a 60 and make it play like 64, but you can open up a 64 and make it play like 68. You can't do that with a 60.



    IMO you really need to be confident with your other 13 clubs to play one. Sometimes having one is incredibly useful, if you play on crazy fast greens or have hard sand deep bunkers surrounding a lot of greens. I've hit shots with a 64 i absolutely would have had no chance to hit with anything else. But these come up maybe once every 3-4 rounds. It's just not worth it unless you short side yourself a lot, or play on heavily bunkered courses with tiny quick greens etc...



    currently i don't use one....and i actually like the 64 wedge a lot. Just don't really need it enough




    I play PW, 50 and 58. I have tried 64 and have 60, but they launch way to high for me to control. For my wedge swing, 58 is optimal and I can do anything that a 60/64 can do with a 58. Short game is the strongest part of my game.
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    Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
    Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
    Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
    Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
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  • swizbeatzswizbeatz  5765WRX Points: 257Handicap: +.6Members Posts: 5,765 Titanium Tees
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    Norboo wrote:

    MtlJeff wrote:


    anytime these threads come up (or the "do you use a 60" threads too) people always say they can do the same stuff with a lesser lofted club that they could do with a 60 or 64. But really, you can't. Sure you can open up the face of a 60 and make it play like 64, but you can open up a 64 and make it play like 68. You can't do that with a 60.



    IMO you really need to be confident with your other 13 clubs to play one. Sometimes having one is incredibly useful, if you play on crazy fast greens or have hard sand deep bunkers surrounding a lot of greens. I've hit shots with a 64 i absolutely would have had no chance to hit with anything else. But these come up maybe once every 3-4 rounds. It's just not worth it unless you short side yourself a lot, or play on heavily bunkered courses with tiny quick greens etc...



    currently i don't use one....and i actually like the 64 wedge a lot. Just don't really need it enough




    I play PW, 50 and 58. I have tried 64 and have 60, but they launch way to high for me to control. For my wedge swing, 58 is optimal and I can do anything that a 60/64 can do with a 58. Short game is the strongest part of my game.




    I'm the exact opposite, I launch everything super low. I only carry a 60* but I bet a 64* for me would play the same as a 58* for you. Short game is the strongest part of my game as well.
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  • emechlingemechling  327WRX Points: 45Members Posts: 327 Greens
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    I feel like it is a club that has plenty of uses. I play a older, shorter course with elevated and plateau greens and a 64 is very helpful! I even like it from the 80 yards and in approach shots. It is a shame that Vokey doesn't have a standard 64* offering. But lucky for me I have a brand new back up SM4!



    The bigger question is, IF you value the 64*, you have to know where the other GAP will be. Depending on the course, I will rotate 1 of 3 other clubs. 3wood, Driving Iron or 3iron. I find that the concern in the 240-215 range is worth adding the 64*.
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  • getair23getair23  2222WRX Points: 374Members Posts: 2,222 Platinum Tees
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    I'm surprised, with the length of most of the guys on WRX, that the 64* isn't more standard issue.
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    Titleist TS2 15 Aldila Rogue 70x 
    Srixon Z 745 (4-9) Z 945 (pw) KBS tour-x
    Mizuno T20 51, 54, 60, 64 TT x-100
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  • NorbooNorboo  2338WRX Points: 156Handicap: 12Members Posts: 2,338 Platinum Tees
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    getair23 wrote:


    I'm surprised, with the length of most of the guys on WRX, that the 64* isn't more standard issue.




    With speed, ball launches higher.
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    Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
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    Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
    Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
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  • misplacedtexan83misplacedtexan83  15641WRX Points: 581Members Posts: 15,641 Titanium Tees
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    I dropped my 4 iron and 5 wood for an epic 3 hybird and 64 wedge.



    I have a lot of shots 80-90 into greens, so I thought this wold be the prefect club for that yardage.



    So far so good.. my only problem, which really aint one is deciding 58 or 64 around the green. The 64 really gets the ball in the air and stops quickly so if Im off on my spot then its short.



    58 obviously runs out a bit more.



    Other than that Im really loving it on full shots and more!
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  • cradd10cradd10  1324WRX Points: 156Members Posts: 1,324 Platinum Tees
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    Still have the OG Mack daddy 64. Loved the club, but got into tournament golf and needed a 3iron. Recently picked up a PM 64 and the jury is still out. Need some more practice time. Could make the bag on 6500 yard courses. Need to dial in the distance though
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  • NorthMNgolferNorthMNgolfer  301WRX Points: 3ClubWRX Posts: 301 Greens
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    I have a Vokey 62* SM6 bent to a 64* and have loved it all season. I always have a 64 or 62 in the bag. Our home course has small greens and if you miss to the sides or back the up and downs are much easier for me with this set-up.
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    My Current Bag.

    Callaway Rouge 9* - HZRDUS Yellow 6.0 65
    Taylormade M1 3 HL Wood - HZRDUS Yellow 6.0 75
    Taylormade GAPR 2 - HZRDUS Black 6.0 85
    Taylormade M1 4h -
    Ping i25 Irons - 5-PW
    Taylormade Hi Toe 50*
    Taylormade Hi Toe 56*
    Taylormade Hi Tow 60*
    Odyssey O-Works Red #1 Wide S - Flat Cat Tak
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  • bobfosterbobfoster Best Sport on Earth. Ever.  2385WRX Points: 46Members Posts: 2,385 Platinum Tees
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    Norboo wrote:

    MtlJeff wrote:


    anytime these threads come up (or the "do you use a 60" threads too) people always say they can do the same stuff with a lesser lofted club that they could do with a 60 or 64. But really, you can't. Sure you can open up the face of a 60 and make it play like 64, but you can open up a 64 and make it play like 68. You can't do that with a 60.



    IMO you really need to be confident with your other 13 clubs to play one. Sometimes having one is incredibly useful, if you play on crazy fast greens or have hard sand deep bunkers surrounding a lot of greens. I've hit shots with a 64 i absolutely would have had no chance to hit with anything else. But these come up maybe once every 3-4 rounds. It's just not worth it unless you short side yourself a lot, or play on heavily bunkered courses with tiny quick greens etc...



    currently i don't use one....and i actually like the 64 wedge a lot. Just don't really need it enough




    I play PW, 50 and 58. I have tried 64 and have 60, but they launch way to high for me to control. For my wedge swing, 58 is optimal and I can do anything that a 60/64 can do with a 58. Short game is the strongest part of my game.




    Me too. 58* can do anything I need.
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  • Kenneth K.Kenneth K.  4WRX Points: 0Handicap: 2.4Members Posts: 4
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    Love my 64. It's almost mandatory if you play slopey courses with small greens and tend to short side yourself. It lets me make more aggressive swings on bad lies around the greens as well.



    I would never hot full shots with it though... without perfect contact the ball climbs up the face quickly!
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  • ZurbZurb Smell the Glove  224WRX Points: 0Handicap: 2.3Members Posts: 224
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    I bagged a RTX 2 64-degree wedge for about a year. The thing cost me more strokes than it saved. I just don't see the need to add this club to the bag as it's so situational. For those who struggle with distance control with wedges, then I understand the want to bag one. Around the greens, when playing the bounce of the club, the trajectory is too high. On pinch-chips, the club feels pointless because I want more roll. This is my personal preference. a 52 and 58 is all I need now.
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  • braincramp52braincramp52 Freeport, Illinois 6130WRX Points: 1,412Handicap: 10Members Posts: 6,130 Titanium Tees
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    I played one for a couple years. I'm pretty sure it's still in the bottom of the pond on hole 6 at my home course
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    Wilson Staff MB's 6-PW
    Ping Glide 3.0 50*
    Ping, Glide 54,58ES Wedge
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  • mister2coolmister2cool  3874WRX Points: 204Members Posts: 3,874 Titanium Tees
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    I have played 52/58/64 for a number of years now.. current one is nothing fancy, just an old rusty Cali X-Tour with 9* bounce. The 64 has always been there only for emergencies when I absolutely have to hit one going straight up and down. Didn't want myself to get in the habit of chipping with it so I actually keep a cover on it.
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    2017 M1 440 10.5, Project X Even Flow Black 65 6.0
    2017 M1 3W, Project X Even Flow Blue 75 6.0
    RBZ Stage 2 18*H,Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0
    Srixon z945 4-P, DG S300
    Nike Engage DS 52* DG S400
    Nike Engage TS 58* DG S400
    Callaway X-Forged 64* DG S400
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  • SavageCySavageCy Parts Unknown 173WRX Points: 101Handicap: 6Members Posts: 173 Fairways
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    Phil. Anyone else using one only wishes they were Phil. Common folk don't need anything above 60* IMO
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  • dunndunn  6362WRX Points: 162Handicap: 5Members Posts: 6,362 Titanium Tees
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    Played 64 col of times.....



    Now moving to 54,58,62 setup



    After playing trad setups forever...



    Prolly bend PW weaker and possibly 9 and 8 iron
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  • jll62jll62 Minneapolis 2358WRX Points: 600Handicap: +2.4ClubWRX Posts: 2,358 ClubWRX
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    If the rules were changed to allow for 15 clubs, I'd put a 64 in the bag immediately afterwards. As it stands right now, however, I'm just not long enough to take the hit elsewhere in the bag. But I really like messing around with a 64.
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  • ChipNRunChipNRun  2044WRX Points: 448Members Posts: 2,044 Platinum Tees
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    I have a 64* in my collection of eight Cleveland CG14 wedges.



    I don't use a 64*, but I strongly encourage all my opponents to use one!
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    What's In The Bag *...

    Driver: Calla XR16 Pro 10.5° (set open) / Fuji Evolution II TS Speeder 665 R-flex 63 gr.
    FWs: Tour Edge XRail 4W + 7W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex 60 gr.
    or Calla Alpha 815, set 16° + 20° / Fuji Motore Speeder 665 R-flex 62 gr.
    Hybrid: Cobra FlyZ 3H 19° + 4H 22° / Matrix VLCT Altus Lite flex 73 gr.
    Irons: Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i - PW** / KBS Tour 90 R-flex 101 gr.
           4i refitted with SteelFiber 780 HLS Hybrid shaft R Flex 75 gr.
    Wedge: Calla MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS + MD.PM 60°/10  | KBS Tour R-flex 110 gr.  | Note: MD4 58°/8.C-grind may replace MD/PM
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) / 34" w. Ping Pistol PP60 grip (stock)
    Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag
    Ball: Calla SuperHot - orange
    * Either 7W or 3H left out, depending on course and season.
    ** Wedges: 46°and 48°are competing for bag space.
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. Canada 3144WRX Points: 535Handicap: 8.3Members Posts: 3,144 Titanium Tees
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    I'm going to add a 64 degree Hi Toe to the bag for when I have delicate shots around the green. There is no way I could be effective making a full swing with that much loft.
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    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex

    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-12 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge

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  • Belmont148Belmont148  1508WRX Points: 92Members Posts: 1,508 Platinum Tees
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    It’s not for full swings. Just when I need to pitch over something but spin and stop. My 58* would roll for miles on a 20yd pitch. I know I can open it up, but then it never goes to target or thins.



    I also use the 64* for downhill chips and short sided bunkers. The 58* gets used for ever other “normal” pitch, chip, and bunker. Then it’s straight to a PW/9i for bump/runs.
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    G400 SFT 10* Aldila Rogue 125 Silver 60TS
    F8+ 4W- HZRDUS Black 75 Stiff
    Ping G25 3H and 4H Stock R Flex
    Ping I200 5-UW Project X LZ 5.5
    Glide Stealth 54SS and 58ES Project X LZ 5.5
    Scotty Studio Stainless Newport 2
  • stangs2655stangs2655 NW Indiana 214WRX Points: 45Members Posts: 214 Fairways
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    I play a 64° PM grind once the course firms up. My home club has some of the smallest greens in the Chicago area. It's a must for me when the greens are firm and fast for chips, bunker and flops.
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    Taylormade M2 Tour Issue 16.5 Fubuki J
    Pxg 0311X 2 Iron Tensei Blue
    Pxg 0311X 4 Iron Tensei Blue
    Pxg 0311 5-Pw Modus 120
    Pxg 0311 50 & 56 Modus 125
    Taylormade Hi Toe Raw 64 Kbs $ taper
    SC Circle T Kombi 34"
    Titleist Avx Yellow

  • andrueandrue  1455WRX Points: 242Handicap: 21Members Posts: 1,455 Platinum Tees
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    I have a Graphite Callaway 64' Sureout. I bought it to compensate for poor chipping and pitching skills. It lets me get to within 80 yards of the pin and still make a full swing. Probably goes further vertically than it does horizontally image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> It's also extremely good out of bunkers which is what it's intended for. No need to open the face. Just do a full swing and be sure to hit the sand first.



    It did take me a few swings to get to grips with it despite me already being proficient with a 60 degree but it's now my favourite club. It hardly ever lets me down although on soggy ground I have to be more careful to hit the ball first. It's been known to slide right underneath and leave the ball sitting on a divot in roughly the same place image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    Callaway 60* Sureout wedge
    Callaway 64* Sureout wedge
    Ghost Spider Si 72 Putter
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  • jaffabelljaffabell  81WRX Points: 38Members Posts: 81 Fairways
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    cb24 wrote:
    I play a 64 and its my money club. I get about 100 yds out of it and can great workability, I honestly wouldnt want to play without it


    You must play in some heat to get 100 yards out of a 64! Or you must crazy deloft at impact?
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  • KarstenKKarstenK Hey Chopper, what you hitting there? Cincy, Ohio 1304WRX Points: 165Handicap: 6Members Posts: 1,304 Platinum Tees
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    jll62 wrote:


    If the rules were changed to allow for 15 clubs, I'd put a 64 in the bag immediately afterwards. As it stands right now, however, I'm just not long enough to take the hit elsewhere in the bag. But I really like messing around with a 64.


    my thoughts exactly
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    Ping G410 14.5* Tour 75
    Ping G410 hybrid 19* Tour 85
    Mizuno JPX 919 HMP 4-P 
    Titleist SM7 F 50*/S 54*/M 58* Slate Blue
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  • BForresterBForrester  1261WRX Points: 0Unregistered Posts: 1,261
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    1tondriver wrote:


    Would be a waste of space in my bag. I can do everything with my 60* that I could with a 64*. Jmho




    I agree with this and will take it one step further...I could do pretty much anything with a 56 that I could do with a 60, except I actually trust a 56 on full swings.



    A 64 is such a specialized club. It just doesn't seem that it offers enough versatility to the 99% of the golfing public that aren't wizards with a wedge.
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    Taylormade RBZ 3w 15o Aldila Tour Blue 70x
    Taylormade Rescue Dual 19o R-Flex
    Mizuno JPX-850 Forged 4-GW DG S300
    Mizuno S5 (54, 58)
    Odyssey Tank Cruiser #1
  • reider69reider69  640WRX Points: 106Handicap: golfMembers Posts: 640 Golden Tee
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    I don't like the look of an open face. I want a neutral face with all my wedges. Playing flop shots from off the green with the 64 puts me closer to hole than a chip most times.
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    Cobra BioCell+ - Matrix Ozik Red Tie 6Q3 X
    Cobra BioCell 3-4 Hybrid - Aldila Rogue Black 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 4-G, KBS C Taper Lite X
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 - 54 and 58 - Modus 105X
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  • thug the bunnythug the bunny  6141WRX Points: 150Handicap: 8.2Members Posts: 6,141 Titanium Tees
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    I use my 60* pretty well and I'm comfortable with it, but it took a bunch of years. If I consider a 64* I just think of trying to lop of a bunch of chin hairs with a straight razor with a swinging start...
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  • ObeeObee  4062WRX Points: 856Handicap: +1ClubWRX Posts: 4,062 ClubWRX
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    Just started carrying one. Our bunkers are deep!
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    PING G400 Max - Tour 65 S
    Callaway Rogue 15* 3W
    Titleist H1 19* Diamana S+ Blue 70hy
    Titleist H1 23* Diamana S+ Blue 70hy
    Adams Idea Tech V4 5H 25* ProLaunch Blue 75 HY
    Adams Idea Tech V4 6H 28* ProLaunch Blue 75 HY
    Adams Idea Tech V4 7H 32* ProLaunch Blue 75 HY
    Titleist AP2 716 8i 37* KBS Tour S
    Titleist AP2 716 9i 42* KBS Tour S
    Don Wood Custom Grind 47* PW
    Don Wood Custom Grind 51* GW
    Titleist "Vokey Design" 56* K Grind
    Mizuno S18 60/7 LW
    Odyssey Works Versa Tank 1W (bent to 78.5*)
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