64* lob wedge any of you use? WOW. It's almost like cheating



  • JimhaydenJimhayden  215WRX Points: 0Handicap: 7Members Posts: 215
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    64 mack daddy is money
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  • diehllanediehllane Reverend  1161WRX Points: 25Members Posts: 1,161
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    I love my 64.

    50 yards with a little 9 to 3 action.

    100 with a full go.

    I also play a course with a lot of smaller greens, so I like the high, soft flop when I'm greenside.
    Driver: Bombtech Grenade 10.5
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  • kevnixonkevnixon  545WRX Points: 35Handicap: 4Members Posts: 545
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    64 degrees wedges aren't designed for full swings . I like mine for around the green in short thick rough . You can really focus on accelerating through the shot knowing the loft will keep the distance and run out to a minimum
    Tm sldr 460 with diamana bb x flex
    Tm sldr 3 wood speeder s
    Ping i25 19 deg hybrid tfc stiff
    Ping s55 4-pw Cfs stiff
    Cleveland rtx black 52, 58, 64
    Odyssey bwb versa 9
  • Rhythm&TempoRenzoRhythm&TempoRenzo Rhythm&TempoRenzo  594WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 594
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    So for those using a 64 (or even a 62), are you using it in sand traps and if so, what's the bounce?

    I've used a 54/64 combo for years. My 64 has 7' of bounce and is mostly used out of greenside bunkers with not a lot of green to work with, along with other select shots. My 54 has 11' of bounce and I control the distance on both by choking down to different levels, along with 3/4 swings and etc...
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  • flopshot99flopshot99  946WRX Points: 0Handicap: 12Banned Posts: 946
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    Im glad you feel like it's working for you..but i think a 59 or 60 is plenty enough and there really isn't a need for a 64. Tour players mostly have a 58 or 59 as there highest lofted wedge.
  • 9woodfan9woodfan  1470WRX Points: 126Members Posts: 1,470
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    Love mine… I used a 58/60 for years but added the 64 and it's been a gem around the green and in bunkers. I had to problems opening up my 60 but I just really like the 64.

    Bag: Ping Hoofer Camo / Vessel Sunday Bag
    Driver: Ping G400 SFT @ 10*
    Wood: Cobra King F8 @ 17*
    Hybrids: Cobra King F8 22* & 25*
    Irons: Wishon Sterling SL 6-SW
    Wedge: KZG Forged TRS Grind 60*
    Putter: SGC WB Northwood
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  • dunndunn  6362WRX Points: 162Handicap: 5Members Posts: 6,362
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    I have used one in past and they are phenomenal....you can do things with em that are impossible with anything else...wedges are my strength....but it takes out a longer club in my bag and I already have alot of wedges so I just use a 60 deg....

    In nasty short sided situation....I hit shots with 64 that no way would I have been able to do...even with a 60 deg......you do have to make good contact though....If you aren't a solid striker a 64 can get you in alot of trouble as well....few shots I missed put me in bad spots......more loft means you have to be more perfect...
  • Iam3Iam3  168WRX Points: 70Members Posts: 168
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    It would be great if we could just bag 15 clubs. This would be in for sure!
  • Steven269xSteven269x  90WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 90
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    Always wanted to try out a 64. Phil Mickelson uses his to great success. Do most of you guys get rid of the 60 if you are going to use the 64?
  • 9woodfan9woodfan  1470WRX Points: 126Members Posts: 1,470
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    I have both..

    Bag: Ping Hoofer Camo / Vessel Sunday Bag
    Driver: Ping G400 SFT @ 10*
    Wood: Cobra King F8 @ 17*
    Hybrids: Cobra King F8 22* & 25*
    Irons: Wishon Sterling SL 6-SW
    Wedge: KZG Forged TRS Grind 60*
    Putter: SGC WB Northwood
    Lovingly built by: Dan's Custom Golf

  • SwingBladeSwingBlade SoCal 884WRX Points: 118Members Posts: 884
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    I decided that I was becoming too dependent on the SM2 64 so I am sticking with the 52, 56, 60 this year and doing more open face shots with the 60. That also let's me keep a bag with both a 7W and a 5 iron. Next year I'll let the 64 back in on certain courses. It is an amazing club, so versatile... when hitting from green area rough and over a sand trap to a short sided pin (etc), there is simply nothing more magical. I actually miss it, but getting back to creativity with the 60 makes the overall bag better.
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    Cobra King F9 Speedback 4W & 6W ATMOS TS Blue 7S D3
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    Miura K-grind 52, 56, 60, & 64 KBS Wedge S D8
    Scotty Circle T Red Dot 350g Newport 2 (A006794)
    Bushnell Hybrid GPS Rangefinder (2019)
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    Backup/travel: '18 M3 440, M1/M2 FW's, MP-64's and Vokey WedgeWorks 52F, 56V & 60V
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  • JonnydiJonnydi  2WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 2
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    super20dan wrote:

    a really good wedge player dosnt need a 64-60 is enough for any shot you need on the course

    I guess phil is just a scrub that has nothing on you wannabe haters
  • gator022gator022  201WRX Points: 38Members Posts: 201
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    Almost 8 years after Golf Digest promotes the 64 they then publish this...

  • gopherlovergopherlover  53WRX Points: 34Handicap: 10Members Posts: 53
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    I feel like the two golf digest articles aren't mutually exclusive. The first one measured pitches from around the green and the second measured full swings. It seems accurate to me that a 64* wedge could be better close to the green, but worse from further away than a 58*. I feel like the article is saying too many ams are trying to hit their 64* wedges from too far away and instead should be hitting their sandwedge.

  • ceejay81ceejay81 Love that chicken from Popeyes! Washington, DC 2057WRX Points: 1,280Members Posts: 2,057
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    I just got 2019 60* and 64* pm grind wedges. The 64* is absolutely amazing. Both clubs are incredible. But let's be real, I'm not hitting full shots with the 64. It's strictly for around the greens for me.

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  • dlygrissedlygrisse Kansas 13779WRX Points: 1,270Handicap: 8-ishMembers Posts: 13,779
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    I consider myself a decent wedge player, I gave one a try a few years ago and it didn't do me any favors, that being said I can see how it would be a great greenside club for those who have certain weaknesses in their game, or play super fast tour level greens, like Phil. If you have confidence using another wedge around the green hitting soft shots then don't bother, but if that shot is elusive to you you might give one a try, you can really hit some cool shots with these clubs, but you can hit some real clunkers as well. It's a specialty club for very specific shots in my opinion.

    Personally I would rather have a more versatile wedge with some heel grind that you can open up for that rare shot when I need to hit it really high, but for those who generally hit their wedges with a low trajectory it might be more valuable. Phil is an exception, he spends hours a week just working on his short game, and I am sure has some very specific task for that club that fit his game.

    I pick 14 of the following:
    Ping G400
    Callaway Epic Flash 3w 
    Ping G410 5 and 7 wood
    Callaway Apex 23*
    Ping G 4-U
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS or Vokey M Grind 58
    Grips NDMC +4
    Odyssey Pro #1 black
    Jones Utility
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  • dpb5031dpb5031 Jupiter, FL 5691WRX Points: 1,206Members Posts: 5,691
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    I use a TM Hi Toe 64 bent to 62. My next wedge is 55 degrees.

    I use the 64 for almost all greenside shots including bunkers. My home course has fast smooth greens but spongy & grainy fringes. I find it too unpredictable to bump it through the fringe, so I almost always carry it to the green surface.

    The TM hi toe has a high COG, so even with that much loft I can also hit low spinning darts with it. I almost always address the ball with it set opened up to varying degrees depending on the shot. It pops the ball out of the thick Bermuda rough with ease.

    It's a great and very useful tool, but you do have to become accustomed and skilled with it.

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    Taylormade M2 Tour 15 Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
    Kasco K2K 33 - UST Axivcore 65 Tour Green 
    Callaway RazrX Tour 4h - Tour 95 shaft
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    Taylormade HiToe 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
    Taylormade HiToe 64 (Bent to 62 & 2 flat)
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  • gator022gator022  201WRX Points: 38Members Posts: 201
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    I agree with you. They didn't quite come out and say it as clearly as you did though.

  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to Canada 13163WRX Points: 2,102Handicap: 1.6Members Posts: 13,163
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    I've never met a 64 I didn't like

    Vokey SM2 64.07

    Ping Tour W (heel and trailing edge wrx grinds)

    Cally PM Grind

    TM Hi Toe

    All amazing. Great around my course with tiny, sloped greens, and deeeeeep bunkers


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    Ping G400 3w 14.5* Oban Revenge 65x
    Callaway GBB 5w 17* Aldila NVS 85x 
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* GD Tour AD DI 85s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* GD Tour AD DI 95x
    Mizuno 919T 6-GW UST Recoil 95 f4 
    Vokey sm2 54*m & 59*m TVD DG S400 Onyx
    Callaway PM 64* UST 110 f4
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  • gators78gators78  3995WRX Points: 197Handicap: 3ClubWRX Posts: 3,995
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    They were using 56* wedges back in the 50s and 60s when green speeds were what, 6 or 7 on the stimp? HUNDO P I'm using a 64* when tournament greens around here are in the 12 range.

    Seriously though it's been an awesome addition, I use 47-52-58-64 and the 64 is only used for short shots in deeper rough around the greens. It's really freed up my iron swings because being short sided isn't a big deal anymore.

    G400 Max
    M6 3W
    RBZ Hybrid
    MP20 MMC 4 Iron
    MP20 MB 5-W
    Raw SM7s
    PM Grind 64*
    Exo Strokelab Mini #7

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