So for those using a 64 (or even a 62), are you using it in sand traps and if so, what's the bounce?
Bag: Ping Hoofer Camo / Vessel Sunday Bag
Driver: Ping G400 SFT @ 10*
Wood: Cobra King F8 @ 17*
Hybrids: Cobra King F8 22* & 25*
Irons: Wishon Sterling SL 6-SW
Wedge: KZG Forged TRS Grind 60*
Putter: SGC WB Northwood
Lovingly built by: Dan's Custom Golf
a really good wedge player dosnt need a 64-60 is enough for any shot you need on the course
Almost 8 years after Golf Digest promotes the 64 they then publish this...
I feel like the two golf digest articles aren't mutually exclusive. The first one measured pitches from around the green and the second measured full swings. It seems accurate to me that a 64* wedge could be better close to the green, but worse from further away than a 58*. I feel like the article is saying too many ams are trying to hit their 64* wedges from too far away and instead should be hitting their sandwedge.
I just got 2019 60* and 64* pm grind wedges. The 64* is absolutely amazing. Both clubs are incredible. But let's be real, I'm not hitting full shots with the 64. It's strictly for around the greens for me.
I consider myself a decent wedge player, I gave one a try a few years ago and it didn't do me any favors, that being said I can see how it would be a great greenside club for those who have certain weaknesses in their game, or play super fast tour level greens, like Phil. If you have confidence using another wedge around the green hitting soft shots then don't bother, but if that shot is elusive to you you might give one a try, you can really hit some cool shots with these clubs, but you can hit some real clunkers as well. It's a specialty club for very specific shots in my opinion.
Personally I would rather have a more versatile wedge with some heel grind that you can open up for that rare shot when I need to hit it really high, but for those who generally hit their wedges with a low trajectory it might be more valuable. Phil is an exception, he spends hours a week just working on his short game, and I am sure has some very specific task for that club that fit his game.
I use a TM Hi Toe 64 bent to 62. My next wedge is 55 degrees.
I use the 64 for almost all greenside shots including bunkers. My home course has fast smooth greens but spongy & grainy fringes. I find it too unpredictable to bump it through the fringe, so I almost always carry it to the green surface.
The TM hi toe has a high COG, so even with that much loft I can also hit low spinning darts with it. I almost always address the ball with it set opened up to varying degrees depending on the shot. It pops the ball out of the thick Bermuda rough with ease.
It's a great and very useful tool, but you do have to become accustomed and skilled with it.
I agree with you. They didn't quite come out and say it as clearly as you did though.
I've never met a 64 I didn't like
Vokey SM2 64.07
Ping Tour W (heel and trailing edge wrx grinds)
Cally PM Grind
TM Hi Toe
All amazing. Great around my course with tiny, sloped greens, and deeeeeep bunkers
They were using 56* wedges back in the 50s and 60s when green speeds were what, 6 or 7 on the stimp? HUNDO P I'm using a 64* when tournament greens around here are in the 12 range.
Seriously though it's been an awesome addition, I use 47-52-58-64 and the 64 is only used for short shots in deeper rough around the greens. It's really freed up my iron swings because being short sided isn't a big deal anymore.
Rich Text Editor.
To edit a paragraph's style, hit tab to get to the paragraph menu. From there you will be able to pick one style. Nothing defaults to paragraph.
An inline formatting menu will show up when you select text. Hit tab to get into that menu.
Some elements, such as rich link embeds, images, loading indicators, and error messages may get inserted into the editor. You may navigate to these using the arrow keys inside of the editor and delete them with the delete or backspace key.