Which stroke type do you use?

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SBST, arc, inside then down the line, other
Just curious what most people here are using, or if there's a consensus either way. if you do know, please let me know how/when you found out and whether you use a putter with "appropriate" toe hang.



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  • northgolfnorthgolf Pork  4133WRX Points: 232Members Posts: 4,133 Titanium Tees
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    I have been putting SBST since I was a lad in the 60's.



    I bought a putter that is heel balanced today, so today I have started using a putter with the "appropriate" toe hang. For the past 25 years (at least) I have been been playing an inappropriate face balanced slotline inertial putter.
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  • armydiverarmydiver  748WRX Points: 55Members Posts: 748 Golden Tee
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    I am SBST. I found this out by using the Ping putting app. at the local golf store. The app recommends 2 degrees of loft which is interesting.
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  • Scotty1140Scotty1140  4794WRX Points: 463Members Posts: 4,794 Titanium Tees
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    Very much an inside down the line, slight arched putting stroke. I play nothing but "appropriate" Anser style, plumber's neck putters. I have always felt comfortable with this style putter. Started using an old Ping Anser 2 long before I had even heard the words "toe hang". I keep using it not based on stroke, but the fact that's it's easy to line up and I consistently hit the sweet spot. Any face balanced or flow neck putter I've ever bought eventually made it's way to ebay.
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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Maine 20333WRX Points: 898Members Posts: 20,333 Titanium Tees
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    Side-saddle, left hand low, or Nicklaus piston...depending on the putt.
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  • indyvaiindyvai  1527WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 1,527
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    Great poll! I'm shocked by the IDTL majority...
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    Great poll! I'm shocked by the IDTL majority...
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  • gmetcalf18gmetcalf18  925WRX Points: 101Members Posts: 925 Golden Tee
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    Sbst for me when I get lazy there's a slight arc in my swing i'm messing with a piretti forza right now but i'm pushing putts to the right I think my bb32 is going back in the bag after some experimenting. I do really like the heavier weight of the piretti 375g now I've got to find a Betti belly putter and cut it down
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    indyvai wrote:


    Great poll! I'm shocked by the IDTL majority...




    me too. i'm amazed im STILL the only swinging gate.
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  • BENNYSUPREMEBENNYSUPREME  2462WRX Points: 55Handicap: 9.8Members Posts: 2,462 Platinum Tees
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    I switched to a more sbsf stroke about 2 years ago when I switched the grip after watching playing lessons from the pro's daniel chopra.
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    hebron1427 wrote:


    Just curious what most people here are using, or if there's a consensus either way. if you do know, please let me know how/when you found out and whether you use a putter with "appropriate" toe hang.




    I selected other. I have a slightly open stance so the stroke appears to be down the line going back and then inside. Basically an arc that has been turned to the left becuase of the stance.



    I believe toe hang is a byproduct of the correct putter setup. Offset and where the shaft would intersect the face are more important design considerations when selecting a putter.
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    Istl- Surprising too, until I met with a guru I didn't know how common this was, that it was my natural stroke, or that MANY great putters do it.
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  • pappaf2pappaf2  3491WRX Points: 161Members Posts: 3,491 Titanium Tees
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    I have an arc stroke. I knew that is what I had but the ping app confirmed this. I putt currently with an anser putter but I am planning on getting a mallet or something more face balanced. After messing with a bunch of putters in different stores lately I've noticed that I feel more apt to want to manipulate the putter face when using a blade putter as compared to the mallet / face balanced putters I tried. That seems totally backward compared to how it is supposed to be with an arced stroke though, isn't it?
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    SBST

    Ping Scottsdale "Half Pipe" face balanced
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    pappaf2 wrote:


    I have an arc stroke. I knew that is what I had but the ping app confirmed this. I putt currently with an anser putter but I am planning on getting a mallet or something more face balanced. After messing with a bunch of putters in different stores lately I've noticed that I feel more apt to want to manipulate the putter face when using a blade putter as compared to the mallet / face balanced putters I tried. That seems totally backward compared to how it is supposed to be with an arced stroke though, isn't it?




    Yup... seems backward, but it makes perfect sense. Defending on the specifics of ones stroke, the toe weighted blades enable one to feel the toe and compliment the arc by swinging the toe back to square after opening in the backstroke. You're feeling the toe and reacting to it.



    Try something with less toe hang or even slight toe hang and see how that feels. It all depends on the strength of your arc and how you feel the putter face.
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    Strong arc for me, playing a 8802 head shape.



    A few years a go I was a straight back-straight thru guy but switched to a more natural (for me anyway) stroke. Kind of did it unintentional but love how my putting is a lot less mechanical and relaxed.
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    hebron1427 wrote:


    Just curious what most people here are using, or if there's a consensus either way. if you do know, please let me know how/when you found out and whether you use a putter with "appropriate" toe hang.



    thanks.






    Strong arc when I'm putting conventionally.



    SBST when putting left-hand low.
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  • ScaldyScaldy Professional Putter Poser  517WRX Points: 63Members Posts: 517 Bunkers
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    SBST for many years. Started reading a few golf books and forum stuff and switched to an Arc with an Anser style putter.... for now image/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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    Bettinardi BB26, arc stroke.



    I think the grip is more important than anything. If I get that wrong then I cant hit putts pure so distance control goes bye bye



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  • rustyputterguyrustyputterguy  1210WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 1,210
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    How about slight arc? I like to think about as square to the plane, which appears as a slight arc.
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    SBST - putting improved when I learned not to use a "proper" Ping Anser style putter though I always loved the aesthetic.



    First FB putter was a Bettinardi A-02 which improved my putting by quite a bit. After having distance control issues, I've dragged an old Slotline Inertial almost FB putter out of the garage (tiny bit of toe hang) and it seems to be working so far.
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    SBST, but I know the face is opening and closing some during the stroke. Actually prefer my putter to be just slightly not face balanced for this reason.
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    arc stroke, left eye dominant...tried dozens and ended up with a scotty 2010 del mar seems to be a perfect match..

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  • scotchbladescotchblade  2385WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 2,385
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    I don't understand SBST.



    How does one, if standing to the side of the ball as we do (creating an inclined angle), avoid the natural arcing that would occur while taking his stroke?



    Wouldn't attempting SBST be unnatural and therefore manipulation?



    I see the diagram in the Pelz book of his definition of SBST, showing the putter face perpendicular to the intended line at all times and wonder how this would even be possible, unless you had a perfectly vertical shaft.



    Swinging gate for me, because it is natural and I don't think about it.
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    Swinging gate for me, because it is natural and I don't think about it.




    The less I think about the better off I am. Swinging gate for me also.



    Bettinardi BB5 with a stubby plumbers neck.



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    jcigars wrote:



    Swinging gate for me, because it is natural and I don't think about it.




    The less I think about the better off I am. Swinging gate for me also.






    +2. SBST always seemed unnatural to me. you either have ot manipulate your hands or turn your shoulders in a way that does not rotate aroudn your spine. i dont have any idea why someone would wnat to do this.
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  • indyvaiindyvai  1527WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 1,527
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    Even a gated stroke doesn't rotate around the spine, and is a very similar bio mechanic motion to the perceived SBST. The rotation around the spine is more relevant to the full swing. There's a reason the putting motion is commonly referred to as rocking the shoulders and not rotating back and through...
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  • atlanta golferatlanta golfer  3598WRX Points: 2Handicap: 7.6Members Posts: 3,598 Titanium Tees
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    Swinging gate for me (with the belly!) and this feels more natural for sure. Just a shorter version of the same path I use for every other club in the bag. I use the same grip also! (interlock)
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  • hebron1427hebron1427 Older. Slower. Weaker. AtlJeff  3720WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 3,720 BST Banned
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    indyvai wrote:


    Even a gated stroke doesn't rotate around the spine, and is a very similar bio mechanic motion to the perceived SBST. The rotation around the spine is more relevant to the full swing. There's a reason the putting motion is commonly referred to as rocking the shoulders and not rotating back and through...




    disagree. my shoulders rotate around my spine when putting. SBST requires a "rocking" that actually compresses the spine. very unnatural.
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  • MrSlippery519MrSlippery519  14WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 14
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    Slight arc for me, using a Newport 2 notchback which is close to heel balanced. Seems like a perfect fit at the moment
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    hebron1427 wrote:

    indyvai wrote:


    Even a gated stroke doesn't rotate around the spine, and is a very similar bio mechanic motion to the perceived SBST. The rotation around the spine is more relevant to the full swing. There's a reason the putting motion is commonly referred to as rocking the shoulders and not rotating back and through...




    disagree. my shoulders rotate around my spine when putting. SBST requires a "rocking" that actually compresses the spine. very unnatural.




    Feels natural to me. Not sure what is so difficult or forced about a pendulum motion? But I'm also not trying to force the face to be square to the target the whole time either. I think there is some rotation no matter how hard you try not to have any.
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