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Mizuno shaft optimizer. I forgot my recommendations. Can anyone check my numbers?


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If you only swing your driver 95-100, than yes seems like the 90+ SS for a 6 iron is a bit high. Was that the result from a single swing or did you average out the numbers across multiple swings, and also did you take the results from swings with good strikes on the ball or every swing regardless of whether or not you shanked the ball (just using that as an extreme example, but making the point that it might be best to take your better swings = smoother, probably less speed than a plain ole grip and rip it type swing).

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I can't comment on the swing speed accuracy of the fitting club you used. It would seem a few MPH high based on your driver swing speed. I also have the suspicion that the tool has 3-4 MPH of ego massaging help built into the system. This does not change the recommendations, just makes you feel better when you do the test!

I am a fan of the optimiser as a fitting tool because it takes into account how the player loads the shaft. It is also pretty idiot proof, which is good considering the wide range of people using it as a fitting tool.

Just to put things in perspective if you run 88 4,3,1,4 the recommendations all fall back into the S flex category.

Dynamic Gold S300
Project X 5.5
KBS Tour S

Unless your launch conditions are extreme (high launch and spin) with your smooth tempo it is likely that you will be perfectly happy with the slightly softer flex options. Don't forget the final part of the full fitting process, is hitting the recommended shafts using trackman to confirm the launch conditions and shaft feel.

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[quote name='ERdiesel' timestamp='1343942957' post='5398310']
If you only swing your driver 95-100, than yes seems like the 90+ SS for a 6 iron is a bit high. Was that the result from a single swing or did you average out the numbers across multiple swings, and also did you take the results from swings with good strikes on the ball or every swing regardless of whether or not you shanked the ball (just using that as an extreme example, but making the point that it might be best to take your better swings = smoother, probably less speed than a plain ole grip and rip it type swing).
[/quote]

I took 3 swings. All were good strikes (what can I say?;). One swing was 90ss, the others were 91ss. All numbers came back the same: 4-3-1-4

The club I was using to get the numbers was a JPX 800 pro on a graphite shaft. Are there others shafts to obtain the numbers with? The
Numnuts rep at GS was not very informative. Nice enough guy though.

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[quote name='DaveMac' timestamp='1343943110' post='5398316']
I can't comment on the swing speed accuracy of the fitting club you used. It would seem a few MPH high based on your driver swing speed. I also have the suspicion that the tool has 3-4 MPH of ego massaging help built into the system. This does not change the recommendations, just makes you feel better when you do the test!

I am a fan of the optimiser as a fitting tool because it takes into account how the player loads the shaft. It is also pretty idiot proof, which is good considering the wide range of people using it as a fitting tool.

Just to put things in perspective if you run 88 4,3,1,4 the recommendations all fall back into the S flex category.

Dynamic Gold S300
Project X 5.5
KBS Tour S

Unless your launch conditions are extreme (high launch and spin) with your smooth tempo it is likely that you will be perfectly happy with the slightly softer flex options. Don't forget the final part of the full fitting process, is hitting the recommended shafts using trackman to confirm the launch conditions and shaft feel.
[/quote]

That makes a little more sense then. Last summer, I was getting 6i swing speeds of 85-88mph at a taylormade booth. They suggested stiff for me at the time.

I doubt I'll venture into stiff flex, but would like to try the recommended bend profiles. I'm currently playing burner 2.0 with stock stiff 85g shafts. I like the feel well enough. Would like a lower flight though.

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[quote name='DaveMac' timestamp='1343944655' post='5398420']
[quote name='Wirfo' timestamp='1343943789' post='5398364']
Same problem as OP, please give me a hand.
ss 91-92 mph 5-4-4-8
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Early release (8) fits you into a slightly softer tipped shaft.[list]
[*]Dynalite Gold XP X 100 Soft step
[*]Project X 6.0
[*]KBS Tour X Soft step
[/list]
[/quote]
Thanks, I have tryed the KBS in both s and xs, I have also played PX 6.0. I really liked the KBS yet to try the Dynlite though. To me the PX feels allot stiffer than the KBS.

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[quote name='DaveMac' timestamp='1345408664' post='5499390']
[quote name='joe81005' timestamp='1345404175' post='5499086']
Could you recommend shaft for me please? 86, 5,3,5,4
[/quote]
Joe[list=1]
[*]Dynamic Gold S300
[*]Project X 5.5
[*]KBS Tour Stiff
[/list]
[/quote]

Thanks for taking the time! Have a great evening! Joe

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Same problem here. My SS is 75, and my numbers are 4-2-2-4. Can anyone tell me the recommended shafts?

Callaway Paradym 12* (-1Std) Autoflex SF505X

Callaway Paradym Heavenwood

Ping G425M 20.5* Tensei Raw Org 75S

Ping G425 22* ADIZ85S

Ping G425 26* ADIZ85S

T100S 6-7 (1* weak) Aerotech FC115

T100 8-PW  Aerotech FC115

Titleist T100 50*  Aerotech FC115

Vokey SM8 54.12D/58.8M Aerotech FC115
SC Champ Choice Newport 2 Stability Shaft Tour

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[quote name='bag302' timestamp='1343939302' post='5397970']
Thank you. Do you think the optimizer is accurate? That swing speed seems too high for my six iron. I only swing my driver 95-100.
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Your driver has to be higher than that. My driver ss is in that range and I was at 80-81 for 6 iron.

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[quote name='Mschumacher' timestamp='1347314286' post='5618809']
[quote name='bag302' timestamp='1343939302' post='5397970']
Thank you. Do you think the optimizer is accurate? That swing speed seems too high for my six iron. I only swing my driver 95-100.
[/quote]

Your driver has to be higher than that. My driver ss is in that range and I was at 80-81 for 6 iron.
[/quote]

It used to be up in the 105 range and I saw a max of 111, but that was 5 years ago when I was in my 30's. Now, I can barely get to 100mph using a swing speed radar. That's why i dont believe the Mizuno optimizer numbers of 91 mph with a six iron. I do carry my 8 iron 155 (Burner 2.0 jacked lofts)

No way i am an x-flex like mizuno recommends.

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Anyone? 4-2-2-4, 75 mph.

Callaway Paradym 12* (-1Std) Autoflex SF505X

Callaway Paradym Heavenwood

Ping G425M 20.5* Tensei Raw Org 75S

Ping G425 22* ADIZ85S

Ping G425 26* ADIZ85S

T100S 6-7 (1* weak) Aerotech FC115

T100 8-PW  Aerotech FC115

Titleist T100 50*  Aerotech FC115

Vokey SM8 54.12D/58.8M Aerotech FC115
SC Champ Choice Newport 2 Stability Shaft Tour

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I am a tad curious how the OP has a 91 MPH SS and was given the recommendations that has was given.
I recorded the following:
SS Numbers
90 4475
91 3467
91 3467
90 4367
91 3457
93 3467
93 3465
91 3467

Now IIRC, the shaft optimizer suggested with some of these numbers a PX 5.5 and with some of the others, DG XP 300, and something else along these lines. I currently play PX 6.0 SSx1 and I feel that I have a very consistent setup, and a very accurate iron setup. Is there something that I am missing? If I try a DG XP S300, shots with a 6 iron into the wind are as long as a 9 iron and as high as a lob wedge. Just need some degree of understanding as to why I have the shaft suggestions that I have. To provide a bit more info, with DG S300s that I used to play, I could backspin shots off of the front of a green. I have a stack and tilt single plane swing and a smooth acceleration without any hard transitions or jerks with my irons. I don't try and overswing or overpower a shot.

I also want to add, that this may be before the inclusion of the C-Tapers (not likely to be a suggestion) or the PXi into the Mizuno software.

Thanks for the help.

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[quote name='Florida Gator' timestamp='1347555440' post='5634775']
I am a tad curious how the OP has a 91 MPH SS and was given the recommendations that has were given.
I recorded the following:
DNA Numbers: 91 3467
[/quote]

There are two important differences between your swing DNA and the OP's DNA. The first is your tempo is a tad smoother (3 vs 4), the second is your release point is earlier in the swing (7 vs 4). These differences result in the software recommending lighter shafts in a slightly softer flex for the same swing speed as the OP.

The UK version of the software returns the following recommendations for your DNA[list=1]
[*]Nippon 950 X flex
[*]Dynalite Gold XP S300
[*]Dynamic Gold SL S300
[/list]

The software is responding to your smooth tempo and trying to provide a light weight shaft in response to that. Now if you change the tempo slightly from 3 to 4 then the results are:
[list=1]
[*]Dynalite Gold XP X 100 soft stepped
[*]Project X 6.0
[*]KBS Tour X soft stepped
[/list]

The software is not perfect and should always be supported by launch monitor testing of the shafts suggested.

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I'm a believer of the Mizuno shaft optimizer. I installed KBS Tour regular per the recommendations (also recommended Dynalite Gold XP and PX 5.0) and turned my weakness (irons) into my strength now!

Titleist 915 D2 10.5
Titleist '14 VG3 17*
Miura HB3 20*
Miura PP-9003 4-PW
Miura 51Y 56K
Scotty Cameron GoLo
WITB Link

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[quote name='DaveMac' timestamp='1347632740' post='5639009']
[quote name='Dien' timestamp='1347589198' post='5637239']
SS 78 6-6-6-7
[/quote][list=1]
[*]Dynalite Gold XP S300 soft stepped
[*]Nippon NS Pro 1150 S
[*]KBS Tour S soft stepped
[/list]
[/quote]


Thanks, fitter put me into a Nippon Modus 3 S. Didn't try any of the other out, any thoughts?

Taylormade HT Graffalloy Red
Rapture 3W - OG
Taylormade R9 3W
RBZ2 7W
Titleist 714 AP1
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