Sort of Related: Nike Dumps Lance Armstrong

Nike terminates contract with Lance Armstrong. Also removing his name from a building with his name on it. Reports are it is only the second athlete that they have ever "terminated" a contract with. Michael Vick was the other. They have not renewed contacts, but have only ever terminated two.

Intersting, but sort of related?

Is he still with Michelob Ultra?

[quote name='Vindog' timestamp='1350481646' post='5805921']
Intersting, but sort of related?
[/quote]is this a veiled "Tiger PEDs" reference?

Frees up money for Rory.

I like the link provided in the OP...

Talk about someone who has stepped right in the middle of a big pile of &#*($.....It's sad. Armstrong could have gone down as one of the 10 great athletes in history and now it will be all about this.

why would nike have a contract w him when his career has been over for some time now? but nike needs to step away as they are getting pulled into coverup allegations... btw, la himself has stepped down from livestrong
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nike-terminate-armstrongs-contract

i sure he has still made his millions from all of this,disgrace of a man thats all i can say

[quote name='avgjoe' timestamp='1350483457' post='5806053']
[b]why would nike have a contract w him when his career has been over for some time now?[/b] but nike needs to step away as they are getting pulled into coverup allegations... btw, la himself has stepped down from livestrong
[url="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nike-terminate-armstrongs-contract"]http://www.cyclingne...trongs-contract[/url]
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He's still marketable.

well was still marketable.

[quote name='herdman' timestamp='1350481976' post='5805955']
Frees up money for Rory.
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Darn, you beat me to it!

He should have been dropped years ago as he has destroyed the lives of many that spoke up about his drug use. His viscous attacks on anyone that spoke out against Team Armstrong showed his true character or lack of.

A lot of people are saying if he hadn't made his return a few years ago none of this would have happened. It reignited doping tests etc. Sad how someone who was once considered one of the greats, a legend and inspiration to millions is now lower than low. From what I hear his titles will be stripped but no winner will be declared for the 7 he won. Pretty fair I say since you can safely assume pretty much every cyclist was doping at that point. Sort of makes you wonder if he doped because everyone else was doping so he needed to in order to keep his natural advantage or did his doping give him an even greater advantage over the rest of the pelaton.

He seems to be a particularly nasty and vindictive character. Two of the journalists, Paul Kimmage and David Walsh, who have pursued this story for the beginning are Irish, and reading their accounts of their experiences gives an amazing insight into Armstrongs complete lack of morals or integrity. One of the people who spoke up early on against Armstrong, Emma O'Reilly, a senior member of his team, was branded publicly by him as an alcoholic prostitute, and he bullied and defamed her for years. He really is a vile human being, and its good to see him finally being exposed for what he is.

Wonder what this means for the Dopestrong, I mean Livestrong line.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was just a shred of actual evidence that he ever used PIDs....every sample they ever took tested negative....in later years with "Better" testing the same old samples still tested negative......they have now exhausted the supply of old samples from when he was actually racing and still no "Positive" tests .
Maybe he did and maybe he didn't.....I doubt we will ever know for sure......one thing we do know for sure is that the good that Livestrong has done for cancer awareness and research far surpasses any harm that might have been done if he actually cheated along with all the other cheaters in pro sports.

His legacy is 7 Tour de France victories and 500 million dollars to cancer research........if you believe the accusers then he beat the rest of the admitted cheaters. Saying he didn't achieve these things is like saying Pete Rose never played MLB .

Yes. Lets celebrate the man for being a better cheater than the guys he beat.

Nobody is clean in cycling, the whole sport is a farce.

i think a lot of people have known how dirty of a sport cycling was. I wonder if there was anyone riding that wasn't taking ped's at some point.

I'm not excusing this, but i think Lance has lost his reputation as the best cyclist ever, but he'll be remembered for surviving cancer to ride again and the unbelievable amount of good work with his charity LIVESTRONG. not too many athletes that have used ped's that have that kind of positive effect on the world outside of their sport to focus on.

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Yes. Lets celebrate the man for being a better cheater than the guys he beat.

Nobody is clean in cycling, the whole sport is a farce.
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If that's the case, then no one in cycling can be celebrated.

[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1350492501' post='5806899']
......His legacy is [b]0[/b] Tour de France victories and........
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Fixed that for you

[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1350492501' post='5806899']
Wouldn't it be nice if there was just a shred of actual evidence that he ever used PIDs....
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Failed tests aren't the only form of 'actual evidence'.

[url="http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/"]http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/[/url]

Never liked him

Those Michelob commercials confirmed it.

[quote name='HoosierMizuno' timestamp='1350495718' post='5807195']
i think a lot of people have known how dirty of a sport cycling was. I wonder if there was anyone riding that wasn't taking ped's at some point.

I'm not excusing this, but i think Lance has lost his reputation as the best cyclist ever, but he'll be remembered for surviving cancer to ride again and the unbelievable amount of good work with his charity LIVESTRONG. not too many athletes that have used ped's that have that kind of positive effect on the world outside of their sport to focus on.
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He was never, ever recognized as the best cyclist ever. That's a U.S.-centric viewpoint. Eddie Merckx's record far surpasses Lance's in every respect except number of TdF titles won. and now Eddie has him beat in that as well.

I think it is more alarming that Nike (potentially) knew he was doping and only dropped him after the determination to sanction him was made. Is Nike standing behind him in any way? If not for Lance, than for the foundation that supports cancer research?

How is this sort of related??

[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1350492501' post='5806899']
Wouldn't it be nice if there was just a shred of actual evidence that he ever used PIDs....every sample they ever took tested negative....in later years with "Better" testing the same old samples still tested negative......they have now exhausted the supply of old samples from when he was actually racing and still no "Positive" tests .
Maybe he did and maybe he didn't.....I doubt we will ever know for sure......one thing we do know for sure is that the good that Livestrong has done for cancer awareness and research far surpasses any harm that might have been done if he actually cheated along with all the other cheaters in pro sports.

His legacy is 7 Tour de France victories and 500 million dollars to cancer research........if you believe the accusers then he beat the rest of the admitted cheaters. Saying he didn't achieve these things is like saying Pete Rose never played MLB .
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Wouldn't it be nice if there was a shred of truth in anything you just wrote?

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[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1350492501' post='5806899']
Wouldn't it be nice if there was just a shred of actual evidence that he ever used PIDs....
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Failed tests aren't the only form of 'actual evidence'.

[url="http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/"]http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/[/url]
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Well and the fact that he did actually fail two drugs tests.

[quote name='Ajit' timestamp='1350502091' post='5807793']
[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1350492501' post='5806899']
Wouldn't it be nice if there was just a shred of actual evidence that he ever used PIDs....every sample they ever took tested negative....in later years with "Better" testing the same old samples still tested negative......they have now exhausted the supply of old samples from when he was actually racing and still no "Positive" tests .
Maybe he did and maybe he didn't.....I doubt we will ever know for sure......one thing we do know for sure is that the good that Livestrong has done for cancer awareness and research far surpasses any harm that might have been done if he actually cheated along with all the other cheaters in pro sports.

His legacy is 7 Tour de France victories and 500 million dollars to cancer research........if you believe the accusers then he beat the rest of the admitted cheaters. Saying he didn't achieve these things is like saying Pete Rose never played MLB .
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Wouldn't it be nice if there was a shred of truth in anything you just wrote?
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Sad, but true...at this point the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1350502326' post='5807821']
[quote name='Ajit' timestamp='1350502091' post='5807793']
[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1350492501' post='5806899']
Wouldn't it be nice if there was just a shred of actual evidence that he ever used PIDs....every sample they ever took tested negative....in later years with "Better" testing the same old samples still tested negative......they have now exhausted the supply of old samples from when he was actually racing and still no "Positive" tests .
Maybe he did and maybe he didn't.....I doubt we will ever know for sure......one thing we do know for sure is that the good that Livestrong has done for cancer awareness and research far surpasses any harm that might have been done if he actually cheated along with all the other cheaters in pro sports.

His legacy is 7 Tour de France victories and 500 million dollars to cancer research........if you believe the accusers then he beat the rest of the admitted cheaters. Saying he didn't achieve these things is like saying Pete Rose never played MLB .
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Wouldn't it be nice if there was a shred of truth in anything you just wrote?
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Sad, but true...at this point the evidence is pretty overwhelming.
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Sad that it happened but it's good the truth has come out. Vindication for all the people that Armstrong bullied and humiliated over the years.

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[quote name='Shrapnac' timestamp='1350494568' post='5807067']
Yes. Lets celebrate the man for being a better cheater than the guys he beat.

Nobody is clean in cycling, the whole sport is a farce.
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If that's the case, then no one in cycling can be celebrated.
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True. so we have 2 choices.

1) Vacate everyone's wins and call them all the losers and cheats that they actually are.

2) Re-instate the wins and celebrate the competition as it was, deeming the best use of PEDs as included in the "competition"

Not much of a choice if you ask me